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I🖤Kraken

"You. Jump I. Jump. Jack." I would love to know the etymology of those five words.

James Roberts

What a bunch of rich, white nonsense this club is. They don't need to be so secret. Invite the general public to one of these weekends and most would never want to associate with anyone in this society again.

Gail Hislop

The two parallel stories on the wealthy in this episode always struck me. The Senior Gilmore's being such unbelievably entitled snobs about Luke was so jarring and probably the first time we really saw how much they live for their status. They were truly awful and it gives more of an insight into why Lorelei ran away from them and resists so strongly being part of their world. Poor Luke didn't stand a chance on either occasion. And then we have the young LDB crowd who are also incredibly entitled and obviously rich, but life is mostly about fun and indulgence with them and there's nothing malicious about them really, just a bit of snobbery, which they have probably had passed on to them. It always felt to me here like they were modelling themselves on the post WW1 Bright Young Things of the Gatsby Era. I've been waiting for you to watch this episode to see if it changed your thoughts so far on Logan . He is basically a nice guy and I like that he challenges Rory to get out of her comfort zone and live a little, because she really has led a pretty sheltered, small town life with no adventure. The Zach and Lane 'date' was a nice little counterpoint to the rest of the goings on, simple, on the cheap and sweet. They are very cute together.

Gail Hislop

Its from Titanic, Jack says it to Rose as the ship is sinking -''You Jump I Jump right?' and then she says 'Right, you jump I jump'. So it's an homage from Amy Sherman Palladino and she just added the 'Jack' from Rory as a little Easter Egg reference.

I🖤Kraken

No, it's definitely a much older quote from say the 1920s thru the 1940s. Very jazzy, juke joint, gin & gangsters kind colloquialism. Titanic just used it in the movie because it was based in the 20s...

Ari

I'm still in the pre-chat part, but paused to say ya'll are so right about Rory being blind to her own entitlement. I guess she doesn't see it b/c she was raised in a simple town, by a single mom....but she also knows she has her grandparents' money and influence to fall back on! I like Rory, but sometimes this aspect of her bugs me. Okay, on to the actual episode! lol

Naomi Bronner

I like that this episode proves that Lorelai is right about her parents. The episode is structured in such a way where in the beginning we're set up to think that Lorelai is being dramatic and unreasonable about the whole thing, and yet the moment she agrees to stop trying to protect Luke from her mother, Emily immediately does away with any semblance of subtlety and proceeds to insult him non-stop for the whole rest of the dinner. I think it's an important reminder that even though Lorelai tends to be dramatic and very fond of hyperbole, she's usually right about her parents. She grew up with them, she knows these people better than any other character in the show, and she's very familiar with their manipulative, hyper-critical, and passive aggressive behavior, because she's usually the primary target of that behavior. Emily and Richard are capable of being very charming and likable when they want to be, so it's sometimes easy to forget that they can be absolutely ruthless assholes if they so choose, and that Lorelai spent her entire childhood subjected to them at their least inhibited.

Ari

lmao...no lies detected!

Erin

The no “E” guy said ‘dumbfounding’ not ‘dumbfounded’, so no rules broken there. I always laugh at that part because how impressive of those people to be so eloquent without struggling to think of acceptable words, but of course it’s because it’s scripted. Imagine trying to play that game in real life, it would be way less entertaining.

Yasemin

OMG Kevin....your faint, under-the-breath quip "he doesn't play golf" made me laugh out loud! :) Great ep, isn't it?

Carl Wilson

It's episodes like this that make me think about what a nice guy Marty is (was).

Yasemin

Never noticed the "Unhappy Gilmore" reference until today. :)

Yasemin

It's funny how the show toys with you, right? Initially we are led to believe that it's all in Lorelai's head and she is being dramatic during dinner with Emily, and it starts out well enough with her. And then....great writing, as per usual. :)

Carl Wilson

The "do not use E's" game is not everyone's idea of fun but it would be mine - it's inspired by a (mostly) European literary society called the Oulipo, which created artworks using various imaginative & mathematical rules. There's a book called La Disparition (in English, "A Void") that is a several-hundred page novel that never uses the letter E - the plot of the novel is that something is missing and everyone is searching for it but no one can say what the missing thing is. I also can't help liking the silly champagne-and-Gatsby-esque aesthetics of the camp, even though I generally do not like exclusive clubs for rich people. I still have mixed feelings about Logan, but at least in this one it's all pretty charming fun without a lot of downsides.

Carl Wilson

Ah! I never knew this, because I've never seen Titanic.

Nana

Rory is yet again starting to emotionally cheat on Dean lol.

Oceanflower

I found both of your reactions to Emily at first so funny. Because as a person with similarly cruel and snobby family members I find it fascinating how you keep saying that Emily is good at her core and fall for her 'polite in public but cruel in private' act she has kept up. She's been like this the whole show. She only treats people well if she thinks it's important for propriety. Half the time she controls and emotionally abuses the people she deeply cares about (Rory and Lorelai). Lorelai knows this and keeps warning people but every time people (and viewers) don't believe her. That house was psychological torture when she was growing up and people do not take it seriously. Lorelai does have a huge safety net... a safety net that comes at the cost of cruel jabs, manipulation and constant degrading criticism. So that safety net comes at a great cost. Luke has not encountered such precise cruelty. He had no chance.

Dil

Logan has never been anything but nice and genuine up to this point! There isn’t a single instance where he was a dick to anyone… Colin is a big meh but Finn..him I adore! In like two or three episodes he may have spoken a maximum of ten lines all together but he steals the scene each time!

fire12wife

Loved the Jason Alexander, Julia Roberts, Pretty Woman reference! It did have that same feeling, especially with the music!

Tobias Keezy

"Like it or not, Rory, you're one of us!"

Tobias Keezy

You could try it: anticipating and inching forward, word by word, all your companions around you, waiting for you to slip up. It looks as though it’s mighty fun! Don’t stand apart, cold and aloof.

dys

This is late enough in the show that I was tuning in even less regularly, I was either a senior in highschool or my first year of college by this point so I wasn't around as much when family members were watching it regularly. So I only remember a couple Logan episodes but I kinda come down more on Joe's side on him, he doesn't say anything explicitly douchy but there's an air to him. Rory by contrast doesn't come across as entitled to me, and I'm right there with you guys on having had to work minimum-wage jobs at her age which Rory didn't (or even earlier, I worked as a lifeguard from age 16 which did pay a bit over minimum wage but it was like $8/hr when MA minimum was 6.75). I guess she didn't have to work because Lorelei had clawed her way to a decent middle-class lifestyle by the time Rory was a teenager and her grandparents paid for her expensive school, but still that doesn't scream entitled to me. I dunno, I grew up with parents who were highly educated professionals but made some life choices that ended up with them scraping by to maintain a lower-middle-class existence, and it seems like for most of Rory's childhood she grew up in a similar financial situation, so suddenly having her grandparents provide for some things starting in her late teens doesn't make it any harder for me to relate to her.

Youtalkingtome

Totally, I really do like them. Emily is still my favorite character on the show. They are just vicious people sometimes

Youtalkingtome

I think she will come to realize that eventually. I really hope so anyways

Youtalkingtome

There are so many twists and turns. It's just the best

Oceanflower

I always wished that we would have gotten to see Jess and Emily interact more. I always felt he was the only one who could have matched Emily in a verbal sparring. He was always so sharply observant and analytical of people and wouldn't have gotten his feelings hurt by Emily's nastier responses.

Oceanflower

I love how chaotic Finn is. He's barely functional as a person :'D

Oceanflower

I think Rory is entitled but not about money, but the social currency her class and upbringing gives her. She has so much social capital and is entirely unaware of it at times. Everyone in that town worshipped her and gave her a leg up. The message was always 'you can do anything because you're more special than other kids' (RIP to any other teens in Stars Hollow btw, mustve been rough). Any time she comes across as entitled is always when she is in the 'real world' and being treated like any other person. When she has to proof her knowledge, her hard work, her intelligence etc. and she doesn't get what she wants both her and Lorelai act entitled and spoiled. As if Rory just is a shining angel, and how could anyone else be as special as her, as hardworking, as intelligent? Paris actually has called her out on it multiple times. About how people see Rory as this sweet shiny person who can do no wrong and every time Paris does this Rory is baffled because that's always been Rory's reality. I know someone like that in real life who is a good guy but so incredibly unaware of how differently people treat him and how nice and helpful they are purely because of how charming and attractive they find him. As a result he is quite naive in many ways despite being in his 40s. Logan to me is basically who Lorelai would be if she never left home. Slightly cocky and rebellious because Logan knows that he benefits from the privilege and money of his family but he also resents everything that comes with it and who his family are as people.

Gail Hislop

Finn is one of my all time favourite Gilmore side characters! An absolute scene stealer whenever he appears on screen and as an Aussie I loved to see his wild, wayward, fun loving but ultimately harmless and hilarious personality. The paint ball scene with him is one of the funniest of the whole series.

Zach Hershman

She may get to that point, but I don't think she did anything wrong in this episode. The two times she showed any sort of happiness in the episode were right after jumping and later when she looked at the picture of her jumping. Now, I'm assuming (partially based on your comment) that it will escalate to the point where she is emotionally cheating.

Nana

It is at those moments thinking how much she is enjoying hanging out with Logan!

Koko

The scene, where Dean talks on Rorys answering maschine while she is reading Logans letter shows this so well: Dean is becoming a background noise while Rory is off to new adventures....

ScarlettMi

Whether or not it gets to that point, it is not “emotionally cheating” to have fun with a new friend.