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Ram Charan, N. T. Rama Rao, Jr., Ajay Devgn, Alia Bhatt, Olivia Morris, Ray Stevenson, Allison Doody

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dys

I love this movie, I hate how hard it is to find the original Telugu version though. I mean it's very cool that mostly the same cast dubbed their own performances in Hindi and English, but still for me it's distracting to watch a live-action dub in general even when it's the same actor performing their lines in a different language, and I don't understand why only the Hindi version is easily available in the US.

Tobias Keezy

I always only see praise for this film, so I'm going to say something I didn't like. The two historical figures these main characters are based on, Alluri Sitarama Raju and Komaram Bheem, are basically nowhere to be found in these portrayals. Their names and a couple characteristics were used as costumes for two entirely made-up heroes. I was disappointed, because when the director said the story was a speculative fiction about what it would be like if these two people met, I was still expecting a lot more of the original people in the depiction. I'm also going to join the other comments and say that the English dub isn't really very good, sadly.

ScarlettMi

The movie is such a fantastic spectacle. Yikes, the English dub is rough though. All the times where he's speaking English but she can't understand him because he doesn't speak English is so weird. FYI, Netflix defaults to the English dub on a lot of foreign films. You need to go into the audio settings and select the other language track.

dys

I haven't watched the English dub, but I get how that would make all the scenes where Ram and Jenny understand each other (because they both speak English) but Akhtar/Beem doesn't make no sense. I think the guys watched the Hindi dub at least though, so that at least preserves the language barriers that are actually plot-relevant in the film.

dys

I'm going to disagree with you even though I don't have much education on Indian history either. This seems like an Indian filmmaker making an "India, fuck yeah" kindof move, this is a lot like Hamilton in making a movie to celebrate historical figures in the filmmaker's country even if it isn't super historically accurate.

ScarlettMi

One of my favourite reactor moments in this movie (and there are a bunch), is when that truck rolls into the party and unleashes a fighting zoo. You guys were so fun to watch in that moment.

Pam Nail

The English dub is especially weird in scenes where there's supposed to be a language barrier but everyone is speaking English.

Pam Nail

- If Netflix is going to put "(Hindi)" in the title for this, then the default language should be, you know, HINDI. - This was nominated for one Oscar (Best Original Song), and it won. There was a performance of the song, with the full dance, during the ceremony, and it was amazing. - This movie is actually Telugu (or "Tollywood"), not Bollywood. Bollywood is the film industry of northern India; Tollywood is the south. From what I understand, there's a bit of snobbery in India towards Tollywood, and some think this is why RRR was not India's Oscar submission for Best International Feature, despite its immense popularity. - If you like this movie, I would highly, HIGHLY recommend basically any of this filmmaker's other films as well. I've seen Baahubali: The Beginning, Baahubali: The Conclusion, and Eega, and they're all incredible.

Youtalkingtome

Thank you for the context! I wa unfamiliar with Tollywood. I agree about the use of dubbing. We expected the movie to be in Hindi, since the tittle card told us it would be. AJ odd decision by Netflix.

Youtalkingtome

I agree. Dubbing almost always takes away from the performances.

Anndra

I'm afraid it's not as simple as "India fuck yeah" because part of what this movie does is portray Bheem as an 'illiterate tribesman' who needs to be taught by Raju when in reality he was highly educated and wrote a lot of pro-independence material himself. If viewed from outside the Indian context it's easy to write it off as straightforwardly anti-colonial but in the context of India's own internal dynamics it replicates a lot of centralising pro-Hindu-nationalist sentiments and politics - somewhat ironic given that it's a Telugu film not a Hindi one, as pointed out. There's a lot to like about this film - and to be clear, I do think it's good on the whole - but its politics and themes are quite messy whenever it moves beyond the broadest anti-colonial messaging (which almost doesn't go far enough honestly lol, it's impossible to portray the British in India any worse than they actually were)

Amelie W

I've never watched this English dub before. Really weird if they're going for increased accessibility, but then don't give any translation for the songs, poetry recitals or written signs - I estimate you're missing maybe 20% of what's going on (the song lyrics are very declarative), on top of the bewildering conversations where you have to think an extra step to keep track of who's not understanding whom. And having Bheem not speak in complete sentences seems like an insult to the character. Well, I have only the subtitles to compare to but according to them he's pretty eloquent. Still a whole lot of movie to love, though. The best way I've heard it described is "like three Marvel superhero movies standing on top of each other." About the disclaimer at the start, if you want to be funny you could take it as saying "This is a work of fiction not intended to satirize any real costumes, dances, races, creeds, tribes, cultures or people living or dead, England."

Cramdeon1969

I love you guys didn't see the twist coming. Neither did I 👍👍

dys

Oh my bad, I watched the watch-along version alongside the Netflix Hindi version and when they start up the movie it says "Hindi" so I assumed they were watching with Hindi audio. Yeah much as I find even the dubbing into Hindi distracting with lip movements not quite matching it's better than the English dub.

dys

Appreciate this perspective Anndra because I did kinda go into this only from the American perspective of we fought the British for independence, India fought the British for independence, and of course we're taught in American schools that heavily simplified inspiring story of Gandhi fighting for independence through totally non-violent means. In our schools growing up in 90s America we were taught about Gandhi basically at the same time as and in the same vein as Martin Luther King Jr., an American civil rights leader remembered for non-violent efforts at a time when actually there was a lot of violence going on.

Roland

I love that the creator's principle inspiration was Inglorious Basterds, he realized that he had license to take and change anything from [Indian] history. So he did. 🤩 What a ride. A bit long, a bit repetitive...but if you're going to be long and repetitive...you can't do better than this. 🙂 Thanks for sponsoring, kind stranger!