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Ryan Gosling, Sandra Huller, Milana Vayntrub, James Ortiz, Lionel Boyce, Ken Leung

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danzthename

Oh happy happy day!!! Was so hoping y'all would watch this one

Courtney

This is the comfort movie I didn’t know I needed ❤️ But more importantly, finally someone else besides me saw the Kurt Cobain resemblance, haha. I was starting to think I was crazy.

Pam Nail

- The book is structured exactly like this, with the flashbacks intercutting with the present day stuff, implying that Grace is regaining these memories as we're seeing them. - The book is great, but I think the audiobook is an even better way to experience it. - Strat is my favorite and Sandra Huller was the perfect casting. If you want to see more of her, I'd highly recommend Anatomy of a Fall; Toni Erdmann; and The Zone of Interest.

dys

The film of The Martian was basically everything I could have wanted it to be as a big fan of the book, there's a few things that are streamlined but it was basically a perfect adaptation. I was completely satisfied my first time watching it. This one I thought was a good adaptation but they did have to streamline it a lot more, and I wasn't quite as satisfied the first time through. But now having watched it three times before watching this reaction, I have warmed up to it a whole lot. We do lose more of the science in this one but the core of the story being the friendship and partnership between Grace and Rocky is done perfectly. The way they've done Rocky is just AMAZE AMAZE AMAZE. Having him be a puppet so he's entirely physically present was a great choice, but I've never seen a creature done with puppetry that looks and feels so real, the original Star Wars trilogy kinda set the gold standard for that but Rocky is way beyond anything there.

dys

Sandra Huller is so perfect as Strat.

dys

One thing that I think isn't touched on as much in the movie is that the reason Rocky sees by echolocation and the reason the rest of his crew died is basically one and the same. Their planet has a very thick atmosphere and because of that they never learned about light, radiation, or relativity at all. Rocky was very surprised that his ship's voyage to Tau Ceti took much less time than he expected because they were traveling at a relativistic velocity that his people had no understanding of, and his crew died of radiation poisoning that they also didn't understand while he was the only one shielded by the astrophage. It's tragic, but I LOVE that humans are more advanced in understanding atomic physics and Eridians are more advanced in understanding chemistry, so neither people is beyond the other and it requires both of their relative scientific strengths to solve the problem.

I🖤Kraken

FYI, Rocky is part puppet and part CGI. I'm sorry but the first time I saw Rocky breaking out of his cube to save Grace, I had to fast forward until Grace had his oxygen mask on. And sharing your anxieties for his safety, the second time around with you guys has put me through the ringer. That puppet elicits such empathy that it is really quite a creative achievement. Here's a little article on the making of Rocky: https://blackgirlnerds.com/how-project-hail-mary-brought-rocky-to-life-using-puppetry-cgi-and-a-team-of-women-behind-the-scenes/ and a funny promo with him and Ryan to lighten the mood: https://www.reddit.com/r/ProjectHailMary/comments/1ulyhzm/okay_this_is_really_funny/ -- Fun watch, guys. Thanks!

mogelijk

I'll try to remember some of the questions you asked through the film. But to tackle the last one first, my understanding is that the astrophage was eating the energy created by the sun's reactor, the sun itself wasn't being eaten, so after the astrophage started dying the sun would go back to normal levels. Having said that, the Earth would take years to warm back up, since it had cooled. Additionally, plants and animal species that might have gone extinct would not come back and even plants that survived could take years to regrow. Grace remained relatively young because of relativity. The Hail Mary flew at speeds just below the speed of light, so on Earth roughly 12 years pass but, for Grace and the Hail Mary, the trip takes 4 years. This is why the message would take roughly 12 years (slightly less ) to get to Earth, since Grace was no longer traveling near light speed. Rocky's odd little "crystal pointer", from what I recall, basically turned colors into different frequencies so he could "hear" the colors. In the book, when Rocky learns Grace can "see," Rocky asks if Grace can "hear" the light. It is because Rocky (and other Eridians) cannon "hear" light that they never learned about the stars or radiation. They had no real interest in space until astrophage as they couldn't see other stars or planets. When Grace tells Rocky he is giving him all human knowledge on the laptop, that is essentially true. In the book it talks about how Stratt wanted to ensure that the crew of Hail Mary would never need some random fact or software, so she compiled every book ever written along with every piece of software written, and had it in large drives on the laptop. Last, Stratt tells Grace, in the book, that she will end up in prison after the Hail Mary is launched. Basically, she stepped on too many toes and brute forced countries to provide resources (to include violations of the copyright on all the books and software put on the laptops); countries will want revenge for her ordering them to do things they didn't want to do. The directors (and I believe Weir) have stated that in the end, when we see Stratt, she has a Frence prison tattoo, that means "life without parole." They say that she was convicted, sent to a French Prison for life, but that remnants of the Hail Mary project broke her out of prison. The book is quite good and does a great job explaining the science, as you suspect. The audiobook is also outstanding. I highly recommend reading it, if for no other reason that the extended length of Grace's wake up scene at the beginning of the movie.

I🖤Kraken

She reminds me of a future version of the ecology activist Greta Thunberg. I wish we had gotten more of her background and why she was in charge.

Suzanne Whyte

This movie clearly struck a chord with a lot of people. There is a lot to love including the central friendship, the humour and the visuals but I think it is the optimism that appeals to a lot of people right now. I’ve gotten more cynical and jaded in recent years but a movie like this makes you think maybe it is possible that in the face of a species ending climate collapse we could work together to find a solution and save ourselves.

Suzanne Whyte

Since we’re currently on an awesome sci fi kick with this, Arrival and Andor I’m going to give a cheeky reminder that The Expanse is an amazing sci fi show that would be a fun watch when a slot opens up in the future.

Tina

Farscape had excellent alien puppetry, too. Rocky would fit right in with them!

Amelie W

My favorite story of this movie, when they were shooting the scene of Grace floating in the Petrova line over planet Adrian, there's basically just Ryan Gosling spinning around in the air in this huge set filled with a kabillion strings of, I believe, chicken wire with beads painted to reflect infrared light (important to note, they did all this amazing stuff IN CAMERA, there was no green screen anywhere in the whole movie), and this producer walks by and goes (more or less) what in the jankiest Hell are you spending all our money on here?, and then looks at the camera display where it shows the way we see it in the finished picture and goes holy shit. When I saw it in the theater I was so tired I was really struggling to keep my eyes open, but that part almost made me cry.

Maddy D.

I read the book when it was first released. Andy Weir does sci-fy in such a refreshing way he has such a faith in humanity and I adore it. Some parts they needed to cut but I found so interesting. In the books Stratt has the Sahara paved over with astrophage solar panels and nukes the arctics to enhance greenhouse gas emissions. If you have any interest it’s so so worth it

Andy_Payne

Absolutely great movie and like the Martian, most of the science is fairly on point. The book and the audio book are also exceptional - recently had the audio book in the car on a recent road trip and both my girlfriend and I were crying by the end of it! If you want a very good visual explanation on how the time dilation works (i.e. why 11 years passed on earth and only 4 years passed on the ship) check out this video - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8FT-oz9aZU4

Amelie W

And some fun facts the movie sort of breezes past: -Erid's atmosphere is about 30 Earth atmospheres, over 200°C hot and heavy with ammonia. Rocky actually does have a water based biology, sadly for Grace, with water under such high pressure it stays liquid in that temperature. Although Eridians happen to have a "secondary" vascular system that stays over 300° where the water inside them turns to steam, giving them essentially steam-powered muscles - which is why they're paralyzed when they sleep, as they cool down to let their highly efficient immune system work on their internals. And this is somewhat relevant because it's what makes Earth atmosphere so bad for Rocky - his biology is very close to a closed hermetic system except for the small amount of food he requires and a lot of heat exchange, and he's sturdy enough to handle the pressure differential, but the vents for that internal vascular system are so hot it ignites the oxygen in Earth's air. Hence all the smoke when he breaks out to save Grace. -Stratt has been given explicit supreme authority over every Earthly institution, we assume by a popular vote of the world's governments. She's assuming she'll go to jail once the Hail Mary launches, after stepping on so many toes to get so much done so quickly. I think she prefers to believe in God just because it's comforting to imagine "anyone" with more power than she does. -The astrophage is an almost entirely scientifically possible creature. It survives space travel and living on the surface of stars by absorbing "every" kind of radiation, which is odd for a living creature, but not outside the realm of physics. It consumes and expels fantastical, astronomical amounts of energy, but that's all explained by matter conversion - turning nanograms of its body weight into pure infrared radiation - enough to push a hundred thousand ton spacecraft forward. They capture the energy to breed and feed the astrophage by covering a large part of the Sahara desert with solar panels - I'm a little sad the movie rushes past that part and just assumes you won't think about where the energy comes from. Although, the made up part is where astrophage absorbs neutrinos, an elemental particle so tiny it flies right through the Earth in unimaginable numbers every day without interacting with its atoms in any way. Still, I guess the story's conceit is a lot more grounded in hard science than The Martian where a storm on Mars manages to threaten a spaceship to fall over. -Not exactly relevant to anything, but it's fascinating to me Andy Weir did the incredibly complicated math to figure out how long the Hail Mary would take, in its own inertial frame of reference as well as Earth's, to travel 12 light years at 1.5 G acceleration, down to the "minute" - when the story doesn't even feel the need to narrow it down to anything more precise than "about four years for them and somewhere between twelve and twenty years for Earth." -Eridians have brains made of crystal. (Most of their bodies are composed of solid mineral.) Their memory works akin to holograms; they remember everything they've ever learned perfectly and can recall it instantly. This, together with the abundance of energy afforded by the hot, dense surface of Erid, and also the lack of sight complicating any efforts to look outside their atmosphere, led to them never bothering to invent microscopes or telescopes or computers or explore related branches of science like nuclear physics, radiation and relativity. (This is why Rocky has much more fuel on the Blip-A than he needs; they prepared for a 10 light years long journey not accounting for time dilation.) Although since they have access to xenonite (which is 100% made up) building a space elevator and beginning the exploration of space once they found out their star was dimming, was trivial. Just cool to me how this species radically different from us does things. And how much thought Weir put into his xenobiology, (Sad bit of trivia, both the planets Erid and Adrian, though based on the best science available at the time, has since been proven not to exist.)

dys

That’s kinda what I was thinking of comparing it to, because while the puppetry in Farscape is good, you don’t actually feel like those are completely real creatures the way Rocky does in this movie.

AdamPacio.art

Love your reaction. To answer your question at the end when they departed and the time estimate for his 11 light year journey came back as 4 years and change? Time dilation. The astrophage presents the opportunity for contiual acceleration throughout the whole first half of the trip which eventually gets the ship very near the speed of light. Relativity hold that the fast you travel, the slower that you experience time as relative to a 'stationary' observer back on earth. Grace is going to take some time in coma to get up to near-light speed, and because he's moving so quickly, the 11 light-year journey will seem to pass by in a fraction of the time that Eva has to wait for him back on earth. She gets the whole 14 year trip second by second. Grace only spends 4.something years to travel the distance. Earth and Eva age normal rate, and Grace will return home only 8-9 years older than when he left, even though it will be double that time elapsed on earth.

Julzy

Fist my bump!! Project Hail Mary! It is full good.

RCG

If no else has already mentioned it, time dilation is why Grace experiences less time than those on Earth or Erid… the closer you travel to the speed of light, the slower time moves for the traveler.

Daniel Andersen

Watched "Moon" the other day, and theres something about lone actor in space movies that are really fun and also terrifying.

aleidascope

Some other comments have mentioned it, but Gosling wasn’t actually acting against a CG character. Rocky was a practical puppet (obviously enhanced by CG later on), and he is voiced by lead puppeteer James Ortiz, who actually performed all his lines on set. He thought Rocky would be dubbed over by a different actor afterwards, and only found out during post-production that the directors didn’t think his performance could be improved upon, and that they were going to give him third billing for the movie. Ortiz is eligible for a best supporting actor nomination as a result. He actually has a small on-screen cameo as well, in one of the very early flashback sequences when Grace remembers watching the tv interview about the ArcLight probe. Rocky being a practical puppet also accounts for some of his character quirks - the thumbs down thing only came about because his animatronic hands physically couldn’t do a thumbs up. I highly suggest watching some of the behind the scenes and checking out an interview or two with James Ortiz, he’s a delightful guy and the recognition he is getting for this movie is well deserved.

Paul T Hewes

part of the stuff she did included detonating nukes, and paving over the Sahara to grow the fuel for the Hail Mary...

Actuarial Lurker

Sci Fi - for me- has to have coherent science. The Physics major in me doesn't suspend disbelief....sorry....

Kelsey Krehbiel

I hope you guys do go back and read the book—it is truly fantastic! Someone else already said it, but the audiobook is truly the way to go. Come back and tell us what you think after reading the book!

Skinny_Obelix

The only thing I missed in the movie of The Martian was the passing of time. Here I missed quite a bit, even though I understand why. The Science, what Rocky was offering by giving Grace the astrophage, what earth was doing, also the hero/not hero part was a bit stronger in the book for me. But honestly I couldn't ask for a better adaptation.

Michael Bennett

I want to see Mark Wahlberg's The Martian now. :D "I'm gonna science the shit outta this!"

Youtalkingtome

I have been dying to see Anatomy of a Fall since it came out. Okay, now I'm remembering who she is. I love the structure as well. It's a really clever narrative device too

Youtalkingtome

That's a really cool detail too. They really did feel like equals and they legitimately needed each other.

Youtalkingtome

It's one of the most moving scenes in the last 10 years. I'm astonished that most of this movie was completed with minimal CGI

Youtalkingtome

I watched it again this weekend and honestly I feel like I love this more than The Martian. Don't get me wrong. I have The Martian Blu ray in my house and I watch it all the time...This was just spectacular. I hate comparing the two but I'm gunna rewatch this over and over

Youtalkingtome

Out of curiosity, what's your favorite Sci Fi adjacent film? Do you like 2001?

Youtalkingtome

The movie would have been 30 minutes long, because "it wouldn't have gone down that way if he was on board."

Tina

Dys, I haven't rewatched Farscape in a hot second, so you might be right. Those puppets might feel awkward now. I suppose it also depends on who were talking about - it always loved the Pilot puppet and how he was acted, whereas Rygel sometimes looked like his face was melting. Anyway, Rocky is sublime, I think we can all agree. I wish his puppetteering and animation team could get an Oscar nomination for best actor! To your original post: I eead both books many times before their movies came out. I was blown away by The Martian movie, and felt weirdly let down by Project Hail Mary, but couldn't put my finger on it. Having seen it a few times over now, I think I'm just sad I'm missing the science - which actually is also true for The Martian, in hindsight. I think the Adaption for Martian had simply raised my exceptions for Hail Mary way too high. Also, the Saharara and Antartica subplota are two of my favourite things, so of course I'm gonna miss them, even if it makes sense that they were cut. In all, I think both are excellent - but Hail Mary has the advantage of having our lone hero not be quite so alone, both now and in flashbacks. Also, Rocky. 👎

Michael Bennett

This is definitely the film to see if you're into sci-fi and you want to feel some hope for humanity. It's great that I'm rewatching this at the same time I'm replaying The Talos Principle II, which has a really hopeful message about humanity's use of technology. I can really use both right now. I really like the spate of "real-ish" sci-fi movies and shows that we've had over the last 10 years, stories that are mostly grounded in real science, but reach forward a little bit with our mastery of what we know, and maybe break one or two rules to set up an interesting possible future. I feel like these kinds of things make viewers ask good questions that they actually want to know the answers to, and then learn about relativity or mass/energy equivalence or whatever.

Actuarial Lurker

I like 2001- it unfortunately linearly extrapolated where we were in 1968 to where we SHOULD have been in 2001 if we had NOT spent money on the Viet Nam war and the Reagan tax cuts and military budgets of the 1980s and then didn't have a political "adversary" to beat out in further achivements Apollo 13 would be the obvious choice since its essentially a recreation, Deep Impact, Contact and The Martian were relatively realistic and Europa Report (2013) also isn't bad. ....... I was only 3 during the Apollo 11 mission and VERY vaguely remember sitting around a Black and White TV in the Summer of 1969, but definitely DO remember reading the special edition of National Geographic from 1976 with full color Viking Mars panoramic pictures when I was 10 and the first TEST flight of the Space Shuttle in August 1977 when there still was an appetite for NASA budgets. So I am a bit too tied to realism in my science films as a result

Kathy A

My only issue with the adaptation is that they have so little time to spend on Earth showing the project in action. In addition to the paving the Sahara scene and the nuking of Antarctica scene, the book shows how Grace was involved in nearly every important moment on Earth after he joins the mission. There’s a great scene where almost everyone on the carrier is together in the lounge watching an important launch for the ship’s construction. Someone asks Grace if Stratt would be joining them, and he says probably not. They then tell him it’s good that he’s there to represent her. He’s dumbfounded by the idea that he is the face of the project leadership when Stratt isn’t around, and everyone is astonished that he doesn’t recognize that reality. By the time the explosion happens, he is fully immersed in the project’s administrative duties in addition to his lead scientist role.

dys

I'm by no means saying the puppets in Farscape aren't well done, quite the opposite, it's just that they clearly are puppets and I don't think they were particularly trying to hide that, I mean that was the Jim Henson company, puppets are what they do. I'd put the original Star Wars trilogy a bit above in terms of pure realism, of course Henson worked on that too, but looking back with adult eyes you can of course tell that Yoda for example was a puppet. It's just that how they've done Rocky raised the bar well beyond that, to the point you could just as easily tell me he was CGI that just payed extra special attention to make him feel always present in the scene over other less-well-done recent CGI creatures and I'd believe it.

dys

Probably from me :) I've mentioned before about For All Mankind feeling like an unofficial prequel to The Expanse. But For All Mankind fell off for me in the last couple seasons, and The Expanse is consistently great.

dys

huh... there's like one central physics idea in this that is obviously made up so that the author can give it whatever property he wants (the astrophage), but he gives it a highly constrained set of specifically detailed magical properties and from there it's accept this one idea and everything else is pretty much real physics extrapolated from that with real math. In the book, Weir *does* make a number of mistakes when he actually *did* try to do the math but got it wrong because he doesn't have a physics or chemistry degree, but the movie doesn't have the detail for any of that to be wrong anyway, and those are pretty much the same class of math mistake he made in The Martian where he forgot about the byproducts of some reaction etc. Didn't you say you were a Star Trek fan? Not knocking Star Trek at all but Weir put way more effort went into thinking through and actually doing the science here than any episode of Star Trek ever had, even ones that were written by physics PhDs...

Actuarial Lurker

I enjoy Star Trek for the character dynamics and probably most of all for the "wish casting" of a relatively harmonious future WITHIN most species. That said I'm almost always pulled out of the stories by the fake science- "uncertainty compensators" on transporter beams, warp technology etc

Chris Foster

Just joined Patreon to watch your full reaction to this movie. Its frustrating with all the copyright takedowns that Reactors have to heavily edit the youtube versions.