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Cynthia Erivo, Ariana Grande, Jonathan Bailey, Michelle Yeoh, Ethan Slater, Jeff Goldblum, Marissa Bode

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Tyler Explains It All

So, I've read the Wicked book, that the musical is based off of and it's 100% darker than the musical. In the book Madame Morrible kills Fiyero, Elphaba kills Madame Morrible and has a child with Fiyero and goes insane and leads to so much of her wickedness. Sorry for the spoilers of the book lol

Tyler Explains It All

Just a little note the pacing of this film is actually better than Act 2 of the stage musical. Act 2 of Wicked is notoriously "bad" in the sense of too many plot holes and extreme rushing. And in the stage show Act 2 is only about 55-60 minutes, whereas this is 2 hours and 20 minutes. So, that should tell you something. I've seen Wicked live about 10-12 times. P.S. The Wizard of Oz stuff is 100% in the stage show.

I🖤Kraken

Part 1 is a good and beautiful looking musical that skims the surface but part 2 is an incredibly well layered movie entwining the heavily censored implications in The Wizard of Oz with the full-throated war against propaganda and fascism in Wicked 2. Kevin called Dorothy a useful idiot and it hurt my heart a little being reminded of Judy Garland and the sick grip that MGM had on that poor girl and the entire cast. WOZ must have felt like a war zone. So being gifted Wicked 1&2 to not only celebrate the original movie's artistry in storytelling but also, reign in that overly censored Hollywood nostalgia seems like such an artistic triumph. Jon M Chu: genius, visionary and best damn wedding planner on planet Earth. 🥲

Tyler Explains It All

So, in 2025 Broadway made $1.87 billion, and Wicked was about 6% of that ($110-$115 million)

Jamie Morgan

I'd honestly say both the movies are an improvement on their respective acts from the musical, but act 2 especially. In the show, it kind of feels like Glinda's redemption arc only happens because it *has* to, but the movie makes it feel earned because we actually spend time with her contemplating her moral dilemma. Also, Book of Mormon has been around since 2011, not the 90s lol

Erin Mileur

If you’re interested in knowing more about the production of The Wizard of Oz check out the YouTube channel BeKindRewind they have a great video about it.

arthistorian

Yay! Glad you liked it. So many people don't like the rushed ending and even with the additions the movie made, it affected the reception. I happen to like the second act and it has my favorite songs (though hot take- I don't like the two new ones). Two points to add to your commentary: the two films were filmed simultaneously. The actors talk about filming scenes from either half in a day. Second point: WoO has so many copyrights that there were massive limitations of what could be recreated in this film. One of those was the ruby slippers, which it why they went back to the book version of silver. Thank you for the pick-me-up today!

Jane1967

Glinda & Elphaba'a last song together "For Good" was slightly adapted and sang by Kristen Chenoweth at John Spencer's (Leo McGarry on the West Wing) funeral

Forty

The story of the stage musical is almost, with few exceptions, beat-for-beat the same as the movies, they just padded the films out a lot. Scenes have been extended, dialogue has been added to musical numbers that are mostly just singing on stage, and characters, scenes, and songs are allowed to linger much longer so the emotions have more room to breathe. On stage, once a musical number ends, it usually moves pretty quickly to the next set piece. For example: the Nessa/Boq part of the story is one single six minutes long scene on stage with no cutaways. In the movie, it’s stretched across several scenes with cutaways to other characters in between. The story beats are basically the same, the movie just takes much longer to get through them. That’s true of both films, which is why they’re like five hours combined while the stage show is only 2 hours and 20 minutes. Plus, Part 2 also added two songs that aren’t in the stage show: “No Place Like Home” and “The Girl in the Bubble.” The stage musical is also generally much, much more lighthearted and comedic. The Elphaba/Glinda dance in Part 1 is a good example. On stage, Elphaba’s awkward dancing is played for laughs (I’ve never seen an audience not giggle at it), whereas in the movie, that entire scene is completely heartbreaking. Glinda is much more of a comic-relief character on stage in general. There’s barely a line of dialogue where she isn’t made to say or do something stupid or ditzy for laughs, which honestly makes her come across as much more vacuous than her movie counterpart. The movie still has plenty of that, but gives her more layers and removes some of the sillier dialogue, which is another change I personally prefer in the movies.

Heather

They made a conscious choice not to show Dorothy’s face because of the Judy Garland of it all.

Heather

Cynthia Erivo and Ariana Grande are both powerhouse talents, but I was surprised by how impressed I was with Ariana’s performance. She’s got chops.

ScarlettMi

Nessa wasn't very nice in the first movie either.

Megan the Librarian

Oh my goodness! I just watched your Wicked reaction the other day and wondered if you were planning to watch For Good! What perfect timing! 😊

Willow

They do vaguely mention it in the first movie- when we see madam morrible has weather powers she says “ mustn’t let you get wet” and stops the rain. The other thing to keep in mind when you think about the changes; is the idea is the original wizard of oz is true it’s just the propaganda version. But you’re correct they added a lot. this is much better than the original 2nd Act.

Willow

Oh and re: being able to see shows whenever: now you can see why we put up with the absurd rents in OMITB. Some of my favorite memories are things I saw that were awful and/or failed miserably, just because I know I saw something no one else will ever get to experience. (Also if you do come back see operation mincemeat.)

vala p

You sound like a fellow appreciator of Thank Goodness, so much pathos, so much fun to sing along to

vala p

That's amazing.

Jontor11

Perhaps unpopular opinion. But I really feel that they should haft left 'The wizard of Oz' lore alone. We didn't need this musical, and we certainly didn't need these two movies. Just my opinion of course...

Jonathan

I’ve booked trips to other major cities to see shows that weren’t coming to Baltimore. Especially things where the original cast is no longer on Broadway. For people who live in a city with theater, getting season tickets is cost effective and gets you to see things you might pass on otherwise. A local professional theater gem that a lot of people don’t know about is the Signature Theater in Arlington, VA right outside DC. They produce broadway revivals as good as Broadway and you really feel like you are supporting arts education buying a ticket there.

Amelie W

As far as I remember "Wizard," Wicked actually doesn't change any part of the movie. It's tremendous writing, I think, fitting this story exactly into the bits that could plausibly just be left out of the original, and radically change the meaning of events, without having to force the characters into making any particularly nonsensical decisions or ones that would turn the audience against them. Like the most evil thing Elpheba does, after swearing she'll never try to be good, is some light kidnapping to try and get her sister's shoes back. Not to mention, at that point she can't be sure how involved Dorothy was in killing her. What I love most about well-made prequels, I think you talked about this in part 1, is when you can see how the pieces that have been put in front of you fit together. The "oh, he talked about living without a brain from the very beginning, of course he became the scarecrow" of it all. It also makes for really good reaction videos, so thanks for this. In that vein, I could recommend Our Flag Means Death, the short-lived comedy show about the last years of Edward "Blackbeard" Teach's life. Though it's historical fiction so to fully appreciate it you pretty much need to read a bit of history for homework; but it's the history of the golden age of piracy which is not exactly dull.