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Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Season 5, Episode 7 - Uncut Version (Patreon)

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acidnova

Took me awhile to catch up to all the Buffy/Angel reactions. I'm thrilled to be able to follow season 5 week to week now. Love this episode and I can't wait to see the reaaction!

Lola Lirola

Omg, omg, omg, one of my favorite episodes!!!! The Spike segment in 1970s New York is one for the ages.

acidnova

Right?! Seeing Spike in full-on Brit Punk mode in NYC is iconic.

Neill Shaughness

When Spike showed up Giles mentioned that he was relatively young "not even as old as Angel"

Lola Lirola

The vampire who gets Buffy is definitely a Joey Ramone lookalike. I remember when I was in highschool, there was a guy in my neighborhood who looked exactly like that. He had a lanky dalmatian that he walked around my block. I always thought he was so cool 😅

JC

I think this is such an important episode to understand the character of Spike. He is an extreme romantic (in the literary sense) which isn’t necessarily good or evil so removing his soul just dialed it up to 11; he is in many ways the most romantic creature to ever exist. Emotion over reason to that degree means that he’ll occasionally act against the vampire nature since he still “feels” and is drawn to a sense of belonging (again neither good nor evil) so he will do “good” things to belong but he’ll be conflicted by it because he is evil. He’ll also do evil things and feel conflicted because it runs counter to his emotional need to connect. Buffy throws him for a loop because he wants the connection she represents but is too emotional and evil to properly process. It explains a lot of his back and forth with the scoobies. He is a fan favorite on the surface but deeper he is one of the most interesting characters in TV history (IMO).

Neil Writes Things

"Have you ever seen a chaos demon? All slime and antlers, they're disgusting!” - Spike, S03E08 (Lovers Walk)

Leah W.

I love and adore this episode! It is such a good Spike episode, and it explains so much. He is a hopeless romantic and has been since he was a human. That final moment between him and Buffy is perfect. Also, since you've forgotten, we've known since we first met Spike that he was younger than Angel. In fact, they portrayed it as if Angel was the one to turn him into a vampire. But they retconned it this episode and made it be Drusilla that turned him.

Cotubug

Such a good call back. The show is so good at that.

Jontor11

Great one guys! This episode is amazing! Spike's backstory is so fascinating. So they called him William the Bloody because of his bloody godawful poetry. He was a romantic at heart and loved love...now as a vampire that is amplified to obsessive, selfish, controlling love. So Drusilla sired Spike, and we know Angel sired Drusilla. That makes Angel Spike's grandfather...and Darla is his great grandmother as she sired Angel. :-) This episode was paired with the Angel episode 2x07, but I guess you will come to that eventually...

Youtalkingtome

Thanks! I don't know why I had it in my head he was much older.

Anjali Agarwal

That final scene between Buffy and Spike is so quietly heartbreaking. He doesn’t try to fix anything or ask for anything from her, he just sits with her.

Neill Shaughness

Good catch recognizing Darla. Many reacors forget about her even though she's in the opening of the pilot.

Genevieve Clerc

not only 2 fun moments (the crunchy chips and the chaos demon), but 3 = as always , thanks to Harmony (her imitation of Spike hurt by the chip is great) ! We did not see Spike having empathy, but he was deeply in love with Drusilla. Not usual for a vampire. And he understands people's feelings very well (when Willow is devastated after the breaking with Oz for exemple, or the way he messes with everybody in "the Yoko factor" S4E20) such a good character and a good actor

Genevieve Clerc

(Spike to Angel) - "You were my sire, man! You were my... Yoda!" S2E3 School Hard

Pam Nail

This is one of the all-time great episodes! Great writing, great acting, great editing ... just fantastic all around. - Love Vampire Brian May! - Why are the Scoobies acting like they've never been on cemetery duty before?! - There are few things that piss me off more than someone "playfully" snatching something out of a person's hands. It's never funny, and that moment when the guy snatches William's poem enrages me. - There's been some inconsistency about Spike's age, but Giles says when they first encounter him in S2 that he's not as old as Angel. - The grammar of Spike's/William the Bloody's name origin gives me a headache, but I do appreciate that there's been some revisionist history regarding Spike's reputation as a baddie. Good for him, honestly, for taking those jabs and making them his own. - Spike has been veering toward the wacky neighbor trope for a while now, and it's lovely to see him get some depth. We remember that he can be scary and we can also feel some sympathy for him. And I also love that we get confirmation that he's kind of always been obsessed with Buffy, and not just because she's the slayer. From his last scene with Drusilla, it's clear he didn't get this way with the previous slayers, and I have to wonder if he's never beaten her because a part of him doesn't want to.

acidnova

While there have been inconsistencies with Spike's character (particularly at the beginning when they were figuring him out), he's always had high emotional intelligence.

HereBeMeghan

Loved that you picked up on the fact that Angel in the flashback was a bit more "chill"! It's perhaps been a long time since season 2, but Angel got cursed by the Romani in 1898. The Boxer Rebellion scene was in 1900. It's played very subtle since the focus is on Spike this episode, but this is Angel with a soul seeing this death and acting like he is in on the revelry.

danzthename

Man season 5 is so good. This is one of my favorite episodes of the series. I love the way it's written and edited. And the ending always hits me in the feels.

that girl

Spike is Sturm und Drang

Genevieve Clerc

Spike to Willow in S4E07 - "The Initiative" - I'm only 126! - You're being too hard on yourself. Why don't we wait a half an hour and try again? (Willow)

Genevieve Clerc

I think this is a spoil (considering they are watching Angel). They will come to that...

Anjali Agarwal

Agreed. One of my favorite traits about him.

Anjali Agarwal

Amen. S6 is probably my favorite, and S5/S7 are a close second.

HereBeMeghan

Is it a spoiler? I wasn't intending it as so, nor did I mention anything that will happen in Angel. The timeline was set up already in Buffy, I'm simply reminding Joe & Kevin of it (which others in the comments are doing about similar mini things) and commending them on picking up on the subtlety of the writing/acting. Sorry if it seems too spoilerly!

Sarah P

I do actually think that Angel’s accent is less bad than it was in the beginning. It feels like David Boreanaz is really trying, even though accents really aren’t in his skill set. When Spike first showed back up in Sunnydale after his break up, he mentioned that he’d caught Dru carrying on with a demon that was “all slime and antlers” — it’s so great that they followed through with that!

Erica

Wow, i forgot this episode wa sso early in the season. What a treat!

Erik

It's interesting that you analyze the character of Spike in terms of storytelling tropes, like suspecting that he secretly has a "heart of gold", but I think it's important to remember in the context of the show that he's not a human being, he just looks like one. Within the context of the show (and to be fair, also with most major religions in real life...), you are your soul, not your body. And while it's a little unclearly portrayed in earlier seasons of Buffy, the idea is that a vampire is a demon possessing a corpse. Completely different from the soul that inhabited the body previously, but whose personality is a kind of dark reflection of it. So while Spike as a vampire can experience a kind of warped version of the romantic love felt as a human, expressed mostly as obsession and possessiveness, he's not secretly hiding a good heart or learning to appreciate humans. He literally can't without a soul. If anything, for Buffy and friends, I think he represents the dangers of humanizing creatures who don't operate on human terms. Essentially he's a wild animal who can't hurt them anymore, so they've started to think of him as tamed, even though that's not the same thing.

I🖤Kraken

Lore for days in this episode! In S01.2, Giles said to Xander not to forget that that was no longer his friend he was fighting but the demon who killed his friend. I love this episode bc we get to see just a tiny evolution of the demon inside William the poet's corpse. Buffy's vulnerability and pain on the porch halts his bloodlust. The slight tilting of the head with discovery and puzzlement and, "What's wrong?" Spike might have violently lusted after Buffy before this moment but I think this moment changed his feelings to something deeper.

Lola Lirola

Hahaha, I forgot that one! That's a hilarious one to remember his age by.

dys

> And while it's a little unclearly portrayed in earlier seasons of Buffy, the idea is that a vampire is a demon possessing a corpse. I'd say if anything it's the opposite, in early seasons it is always portrayed dogmatically as vampires are demons in the corpses of humans and can never be anything more (with Angel being a unique case who fully got his soul back), while it's only in episodes of later seasons like this one that it gets more complicated. I do think the "partially tamed wild animal" analogy is a good one though.

Erik

Good catch. I meant to write inconsistently, not unclearly since, to your point, things do get murkier over time as the themes of both shows get more complex as well.

lee

I think Cecily gets kind of a bad and unfair rap considering how little we actually see of her. For all we know (and considering some of Spike's behaviour we've witnessed towards the objects of his obsession) she may have had good reason to rebuff William that way. She looked horribly uncomfortable from the second he first looked at her, and it seems this is a recurring thing. He could very well have been a Nice Guy pest or even stalker imposing his totally one sided, delusional "affection" on her. Maybe he spent hours standing under Cecily's window when he was human the way he smoked a whole pack under Buffy's in episode 5 of this season. Her words were certainly harsh, but the older I've gotten and the more familiar I am with self pitying creeps who think obsession and love are synonymous, the more I wonder how many humiliating and unwelcome proclamations of "love" she had to endure from someone who wouldn't take no for an answer. She literally says very plainly "please stop" and William completely disregards this because the intensity of his own feelings means more to him than the comfort and consent of someone he claims to deeply care for. I too would have some harsh words for anyone trampling over my boundaries like that and calling it love. As you mentioned, vestiges of Spike's human self existing in conflict with his vampire self make him a more compelling character than many other vampires. It gives him greater dimension and a lot of very interesting themes can be explored through his layers and contradictions. While I do like the vein of depth and sensitivity running through him that complicates and elevates his base and evil impulses, the "heart of gold" concept has always felt like an oversimplification to me. A lot of Spike fans seem to think that all the swagger and evil and toxicity are exogenous to his "true" character, symptoms of his vampirism and soullessness that pollute and obscure the sweet and fragile core of his human self. But realistically I think a lot of "Spike" is the darker seeds within William given room, time, and permission to blossom. It's no surprise that a soulless vampire would have twisted and dehumanising notions about women or react in dark and unhealthy ways when denied the things he wants from them or feels entitled to, but I feel like in some measure those things existed in William long before he was turned. "Spike" and "William" have a great deal in common and it's not just their sensitivity, perceptiveness, emotional intelligence, or any other traits that the fandom find endearing. I think they also share a great deal of selfishness, immaturity, disregard for the personhood and boundaries of women, and toxic reactions to feelings of irrelevance, impotence, and rejection. Like with Angel/Liam, there is certainly a man within the monster, but there was also already traces of monster within the man. Basically, in this entire episode full of old and new faces and spanning centuries as well as much of the globe, the only man that I would feel physically and emotionally safe with is the chaos demon. He might not be as conventionally sexy as Spike, but I'll take slimy antlered emotional maturity over a vamp-pilled incel any day. Great reaction as always! This is such an iconic (and expensive!) episode so full of crazy lore, memorable setpieces, and a lot of really fun and creative moments of storytelling and filmmaking. It's easy to see why it's an enduring fan favourite. Can't wait for you guys to see where the season goes from here.

Lyla

Such a great episode. You're so right about the dialogue for this one being particularly stand out. And I love the editing too, particularly the switching between the 70s and current time section - so clever! The Spike's morality/ humanity stuff is really interesting. I think everyone has their own take on the soul canon. Spike is certainly in a weird limbo state in many ways at this point. In love with a slayer, with a chip in his head that prevents him from harming humans, and an outcast from other demons - and yet, still soulless. Rendering his ability to act and truly choose morally as very limited, or even entirely impossible (are any of his 'moral' actions due to him pursuing any kind of intrinsic morality, or are they just made due to his ulterior motives?) To each to their own of course in how you view it, there's no definitive answer, and Spike is a fascinating character (and vampire) because of these conflicts and contradictions. Personally I think it's more his feelings for Buffy and desires surrounding her, that result in that last scene, than any sudden miraculous growth or real empathy. But however you see it, it's a really touching, sweet scene, and so well played. And I like that it's so understated, for such a prominent moment

Chemical Em

omg the ending had me crying it was so touching wtf!

Kevin L

Extraordinary episode, of Buffy and of television. Just wow. The writing, and James Marsters' performance, are tremendously good. How they managed to unfold details of Spike's backstory, connect it all with the lore we already know, and frame it with Buffy's desire to know how he killed the slayers (a question which now feels like Ahh! why didn't we explore this yet?!) -- in gorgeous period scenes with Dru, Angel & Darla -- and those fights! holy cow -- to accomplish all that with wonderful pacing to a satisfying climax... and still leave time for that long, quiet, heart-wrenching scene at the end, where the tender music hangs perfectly in the air... It blows me away.

Pam Nail

I also crack up when Dru says "The King of Cups expects a picnic ... but this is not his birthday!" and Darla just deadpans "Good point."

Carl Wilson

The official explanation was that because Angel (sired by Darla) sired Dru who sired Spike, he would *also call Angel his sire. But obviously that was made up later. In any case, yes, we always knew Spike was younger than Angel.

Carl Wilson

This is a top-level Buffy episode for sure. One thing that bothers me though: Willow and Xander know how to patrol - and Xander particularly knows how to fight - as we've seen a hundred times before, and it drives me crazy that they throw out all character continuity for the sake of pretty cheap comedy with the potato chips and yelling in the graveyard scene.

Carl Wilson

Oh come now, there's also the comedy of William the Bloody Awful Poet - although of course we also feel sorry for him in that scene. (If we're not too busy mistakenly thinking he's already a vampire, that is!)

Carl Wilson

Oh, I just realized the punk-rock vampire at the beginning is foreshadowing the punk-rock Spike (yes, Billy Idol) in the NYC flashback!

Kt B

This episode is so cinematic. The editing (and directing) are exceptional, and that scene that shifts between the subway and the alley is peak. Ever since I saw this episode for the first time, I see Spike wearing the jacket as a serial killer wearing a trophy. He’s got an obsession with slayers, like he has something to prove, and now we know why. Also, importantly, he commingles the concepts of fighting/killing/feeding/dancing/foreplay. For him, it’s all of a part - it’s hedonism with a lust for everything that will make an undead man feel alive. For him, Enemies to Lovers is not much of a journey, because it’s all different facets of the same jewel.

Carl Wilson

I think the bit about a Slayer's death wish was less that she gets tired of being the Slayer, as you said, and more that she is close-up with death, bringing it and dodging it night after night after night, such that it can't help but develop a kind of pull, tempting her, drawing her away from her human mortality. Though I think the simpler point is really Spike's "one good day" - to survive, the Slayer has to defeat countless vampires and demons over and over and over again, but for her to die, one vampire just has to get lucky for one moment. (Especially if the Slayer gets too confident and reckless.) Even the best goalkeeper eventually lets a shot in. But between the two, that's how Slayers die.

Stephanie P.

They definitely ramped up the comedy in those scenes to possibly balance the drama tone of the rest of the episode, but I always headcanon the fact that when Buffy patrols she often is just walking and talking and being loud. She’s not always sneaking up on them. She’s having a normal conversation and then will just attack them or waits for them to come at her because she’s not trying to get the edge every time she patrols. They could be used to Buffy kind of just busting up into cemeteries sometimes where Riley would obviously need every advantage as a normal human to not accidentally die.

Stephanie P.

Gotta love the “Fanged Four” in this episode. Such a clever tie in to give Spike more backstory but also at adding more details to what already existed while propelling Buffy’s journey as a slayer. I always felt like this was a well-filmed episode in the cutting back and forth. I thought it interesting that Spike’s closest people to him were always strong women. He mentions his mother in this episode. Dru was a powerful otherworldly being who drew him in by connecting to him (the first time probably anyone had). Aside from Buffy, herself, he seems like he genuinely likes Joyce as a person too, and I often wondered if maybe she reminded him of his own mother. His character episodes are always my favorite, nonetheless.

Gail Hislop

My favourite Spike episode! I loved finding out his origin story as 'William the Bloody' had no basis in him being a bad ass vampire, but a bad sad poet! What a reveal. I can't remember if we knew before this that it was Dru that sired him. I love that scene at the Boxer Rebellion after he has killed the slayer, when the gang of 4 are walking in slo mo through the destruction and people fleeing and Spike is out the front looking like a leader, leaping off something in the road way with fire behind him. It's so brilliantly cinematic and you see he has truly embraced who he is and will be from now on. He has done something that none of them - especially Angel have done. The editing and seamless transitions and dialogue for his telling of how he killed the second slayer are just brilliant, with the cuts back and forth between past and present and brilliant work from James in his delivery and physicality. The fight sequence on the train is so good. That callback by Buffy to how deeply Cecily cut him by telling him he is beneath her is such a gut punch for him and yet even with hate in his heart as soon as he sees her crying and vulnerable, he doesn't take advantage but sweet William comes to the fore instead to ask if he can do anything. That twist is so good!

Erica

The name of the slayer spike killed in China was Xin Rong, according to auxiliary materials. The slayer in NYC was named Nikki Wood. Just some interesting lore. Angel really has always liked to try to put spike down, or at least dampen his mood (speaking specifically about the scene where he congratulates spike on his kill. Also some interesting face acting from julie benz in that scene. Ive heard people who know accents better than i do that spike's accent changes from a high society London accent as a human to a kore working class, almost cockney accent as a vampire. Wouldn't be the first rich kid to change his speech pattern to seel tougher 😂 And lastly, when sike was introduced, they did say he's young by vampire standards, barely 150. In School Hard in s2, he calls angel his sire, which they're maybe retconning rn.

Erica

Spoilers for the rest of s5: "Fbbare be yngre, lbh'er tbaan jnag vg. Naq gur frpbaq- gur frpbaq- gung unccraf, Lbh xabj V'yy or gurer. V'yy fyvc va... unir zlfrys n erny tbbq qnl." V bapr fnj guvf dhbgr bireynvq bagb n tvs bs fcvxr pbzvat npebff ohssl'f obql naq jrrcvat va Gur Tvsg. Jubrire znqr gung jnf n gehr zbafgre

Erica

I shouldn't be that surprised, as the 7th episode of the season is often important. In s1 it was the episode Angel, s2 was Lie to Me, s3 was Revelations, s4 was The Initiative.

Mithroch

They specifically say in Spike's first episode (School Hard) that he is younger than Angel.

Jamie Morgan

Absolute masterpiece of a television episode! Very small and insignificant point about a comment made towards the beginning - I know taking an object you've been stabbed with out of your body is usually really bad, but I think Buffy is one of the very few exceptions. She has accelerated healing powers, if she doesn't take the object out, her body might heal around it and get stuck, possibly infected.

Suzanne Whyte

With regards to the Angel being Spike’s sire retcon I view it as Angel sired his line since he sired Drusilla and Drusilla sired Spike. Plus Angel was his ‘Yoda’ and taught him about being a vampire so he viewed him as being in that sire role.

Erica

Spoilers for all of buffy amd angel here Va natry f5, fcvxr gryyf natry, "qehfvyyn znqr zr n inzcver, ohg LBH, lbh znqr zr n zbafgre"

Youtalkingtome

Her dual wielding pistols has stuck with me...plus it's the lovely Julie Benz

Kirsten Stewart

One of my favourite episodes, I love the editing in the flashback scenes with Spike, not to mention getting a little bit more of his lore. The final scene is beautiful in its awkwardness, the silent comfort ❤️

Tara

“Death is your art. You make it with your hands, day after day.” It’s such an exceptional line.

Carl Wilson

Good point! Doesn't entirely placate me, but some!

Erica

I think seasons 3 & 5 are my favorites, but s6 is so important to me for emotional reasons. I'll talk about it when we get to that point though 😉

Barbara Panigot

Yes! One of the top Buffy episodes. ❤️‍🔥❤️‍🔥

Kelsey Krehbiel

This episode ranks as one of my favorites of television of all time (and another of these is coming up this season!) for similar reasons as West Wing’s Shadow of Two Gunman and Two Cathedrals. The editing between flashbacks and real time are just so incredibly done. That this episode hangs so much on Marsters and it’s so gorgeously done is a testament to his talent! And a huge standing ovation to the fight choreography! This whole season has just been amazing.

Willow

Angel and Spike: Liam and William. I love how stupid and realistic the lack of naming originality is.

Ginevra

Druscilla looks really pretty in Edwardian dress and hairstyle.

vala p

Lots of people are named after their Grandpa 😉

Joseph Irizarry

Never realized how much Joyce looks like Sarandon. She could be her sister

Vicky N

This one is in my top 10, maybe even top 5. Certainly my favorite not written and directed by Joss Whedon. James Marsters shines in this one. The way he switches between all the different aspects of his character is simply amazing. From lovesick human, to thrill seeking new vampire, ruthless slayer hunter, to helplessly and reluctantly in love of the slayer. The flirtation with Buffy was there from his first appearance on the show. The writing, the editing, the acting. Everything is top notch.

Ashley Thomas

i love this one so much. its so well done. and its so nice to see spikes backstory. he was just a romantic dork that everyone looked down on. sounds like he was most likely a virgin who lived with his mom. hes probably only dated dru and harmony if thats true. he may not have a soul but hes so good at reading people and understanding their behavior. and he seems to be all about love and passion.