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PJ

I’ve written this before 👀. But tonight it’s happening in real time - the calming effect you guys just have on my central nervous system ❤️ It’s midnight and feeling anxious past hours and in general an elevated HR that haven’t really been dropping today despite efforts of relaxing.. just came across this video, pressed play and within 10 sec HR finally dropped to a relaxed 60 bpm 🙌🏼 you guys think you’re just making reaction videos 👀 bit reality is for some reason you’re also a sort of vagus nerve stimulant 😄🙏 and I’ve seen enough various reactors (a lot) to know this ain’t standard - you guys are doing something speciel 🥹 🫶🏼

Tobias Keezy

I don’t think anyone else is going to do it, so I’m going to play devil’s advocate here and say that I don’t think Logan’s family were being entirely snobbish. Part of their point was that Rory wanted to be a career woman and had no interest in being a hoity-toity socialite like they wanted for Logan. But honestly I’m glad they didn’t fall at her feet and tell her how amazing she is, like everyone else does. I’m not a huge fan of the working-class cosplay that Rory and Lorelai often put on, where they not only manage to look down on snooty, rich elitists but also quite often look down on some others in Stars Hollow for being simple, uncultured rubes. It’s especially annoying that this pretentious self-image never acknowledges the giant golden parachute they’ve used several times. But to have that attitude when it’s convenient and then go, “What do you mean, I’m not worthy? I’m a Gilmore; I’m practically WASP royalty!” when it’s convenient is pretty insufferable. Very well-written flaws, though.

Youtalkingtome

This is the most flattering comment ever! Feel better!

Youtalkingtome

That last comment is incredibly spot-on, and we should have addressed it; it IS crazy that Rory expressed her entitlement to high society based on her family's wealthy lineage. It completely escaped me.

Tobias Keezy

I agree that the mansion shows how much wealthier the Huntzbergers are than the Gilmores, but I much prefer Richard and Emily’s house over that gaudy museum of tackiness. It looks like someone let Liberace decorate Versailles.

Youtalkingtome

Completely agree. I would not feel comfortable living in a place like that.

Carl Wilson

I don't think that's entirely fair. I don't think Rory and Lorelai are saying "do you know who I *am" in that entitled way, just that from the rules they thought they understood about richie-rich world from Richard and Emily, being a Gilmore was the ultimate in (blech) good breeding. For everything they dislike about Richard and Emily's world, they thought they at least would get a pass in it that way. Now the Huntzbergers are treating Rory the way the Gilmores treated Luke and Dean and they're confused by it. I thought it was going to be about the scandal around Lorelai (and I think it still might be partly), but that Rory is thought unsuitable because she wants to have a career and not just be a socialite is pretty shocking in the 21st century.

Carl Wilson

Also I can't comprehend in what universe that is not "just being snobbish" unless you think they're right that an industrialist must have a socialite wife or all is lost.

Ari

Rory definitely wants it both ways. She wants to be seen as the relatable girl next door from Sars Hollow sometimes, and one of the Mayflower Gilmores (eyeroll) when that suits her. What she and Lorelai don't seem to realize is that having Richard and Emily as their financial backup plan at all times is also a form of privilege.

Abby T W

Oh I just noticed what episode you’re on and I’m so excited to hear what you think!!

Abby T W

I totally agree!! Watching my favorite movies and tv shows with you guys always makes me feel so calm and content! It’s so much fun.

Carl Wilson

Mitchum has a lot of nuance as a character - right away we see that he's significantly different from the rest of the family we've just met. The question of how the two add up is going to be interesting.

Carl Wilson

Agreed about that last part at the least. I'd say Rory is a lot less self-aware about the contradictions than Lorelai is, generally - Rory clearly has a side that's drawn to the wealth world, having not grown up with it. But yes, Lorelai, as independent as she strives to be, does have that Gilmore safety net and while she knows it comes at a price, she doesn't always recognize that it makes her different than most of her friends and acquaintances, and that some of her self-importance and stubbornness is a result of that privileged background.

Abby T W

I haven’t watched the full reaction yet, but I just wanted to comment on something that I had been meaning to say for a while and I keep forgetting. You mentioned in the intro that in last week’s episode all the characters felt like caricatures. I agree — that episode was written by Daniel Palladino, and in my opinion most of his episodes feel a little more broad, kooky, and caricatured. I would be really interested for you guys to look up the list of episodes Dan has written (that you have seen so far), and see if you agree. A lot of people in the fandom either love or hate Dan episodes. I feel like they really show his background writing for Family Guy. 😆 Possibly related, but that episode was also the first episode directed by Jackson Douglas, who plays the character Jackson.

Flavia Barcellos

"My ancestors came over on the mayflower"... Like GIRL, are you serious?? This has to be one of the most entitled, out-of-touch things Rory has ever said on this show. And about Logan, there’s actually something I really like about him that feels very different from her other boyfriends. He’s always so respectful and considerate with Rory and he genuinely treats her well. Even when he screws up, he owns it, apologizes, and is pretty honest with her. Which is kinda surprising considering the type of character he is supposed to be. I’m sorry but I have to say it… Sookie and Jackson annoy me SO MUCH. At some point, every time Sookie, Jackson, Liz and TJ show up I’m just like PLEASE NOOOO. They can be insufferable sometimes. And Luke 🫶 that man is an actual angel. I cannot believe nobody apologized to him after everything he had to deal with in this episode. He deserved WAY better.

I🖤Kraken

This is the only contemporary tv show I've ever watched where two old money families argue in depth over which is the superior family. Most of us don't use the word (blech) breeding in everyday life, so it's fascinating to see the monied hierarchy trading each other for wealth like bubblegum cards. From the Caesars to the Plantaganets to the Windsors -- breeding stock -- for more money that they don't need. Fascinating but I just can't comprehend it. Generational wealth is just trauma and generational addiction??

Youtalkingtome

Yeah, Sookie and Jackson were kind of villains this episode for sure. Luke was cleaning up Sookie's mess, and she was pretty awful to him for it. Someone else pointed out that Rory sure likes to act like a champion of the common man, right up until her family pedigree is supposed to make her special and entitled. It's a really bad look.

Youtalkingtome

You can definitely feel a stylistic shift in his episodes. He has a great sense of humor, but there are some oddball swings for sure.

Gail Hislop

This is such an interesting episode for Logan's backstory. It's been mentioned that his family own newspapers and he comes from money, but I dont think we realised till now how much money he comes from!! The Huntzbergers are a version of the Hurst family or even the Murdoch's and Senior and Mitcham's wife are not very nice people to say the least. At this point it's hard to tell what Mitchum is really like or what his motives are, so wait and see, but he doesn't appear to have been judging Rory or her suitability as a partner for Logan. It's interesting though that this is one of the first times Rory has been made to feel 'less than.' She has been on this pedestal in Stars Hollow for years, her mother very rarely thinks poorly of her and talks her up to an almost impossible standard - even in this episode on the phone call and of course her grandparents dote on her and tell everyone how wonderful they think she is. And she thinks it too 'I'm a Gilmore.' Others have already pointed out that she and Lorelei both jump on that bandwagon of 'we come from good breeding and society and the Mayflower DAR' roots when it suits. Loved seeing Luke take over that kitchen and show he is a chef, not just a diner cook, but I wish he'd at least changed out of his flannel shirt and hat into chefs whites suitable for a fine dining kitchen 😂 thats just a personal gripe after years working in that environment. If anything that would have made Sookie angry not how he was straining the sauce.

Gail Hislop

Pretty sure Logan doesn't feel comfortable there either!

Yasemin

The guy who played Logan's grandfather is apparently a famous voice actor.

Yasemin

I agree with you; Rory was not issuing an ultimatum, but Logan heard it that way because he likes her. :)

Yasemin

Yeah, even the ep is called "But I'm a Gilmore!" :)

Nana

We are fast approaching the season finale 😈. Be prepared guys.

PJ

Thank you so much 🌸 watched it before bedtime and really did feel better, even had a nice night sleep 🫶🏼

Dil

Matt Czuchry is charming as hell but even if he wasn’t..Logan is still the best written character in the show for me..

NOam Gold-Utting

You might recognize the actor who plays Logan's grandfather as the actor who plays Senator Stackhouse in the Stackhouse Filibuster and Red Masse episodes of the West Wing

Stephanie P.

It’s subtle but you can see the disconnect between Rory and Lorelei concerning Logan at this point. Lorelei is walking on eggshells to the point where it’s almost unsettling in how she’s offput by what’s been going on. She keeps getting Rory’s Logan or his family rants and very little stability even from the beginning of Rory and Logan’s relationship starting with her catching them making out at the grandparent’s wedding. I found the slow build of their differing views to be well written. It’s like waiting for the other shoe to drop when it comes to how Lorelei actually feels about what’s going on.

Youtalkingtome

He's a really good character! I'm honestly enjoying him much more than Jess or Dean

Dani

Ah one of my absolute favorite episodes of Gilmore Girls. "But I'm a Gilmore" refrain so much sums up Rory wanting to have her cake and eat it too. She thinks she struggles and has been through hard times but she hasn't. She, just like Logan, is incredibly privileged and in some cases I think she exhibits more entitled behaviors than he does. I think Shira and the grandfather are horrible, but I also think that they treated her just like Richard and Emily treated Luke. I think Rory is so blind to her privilege that it's insane but her mom made a good job of making her feel like she was this plucky underdog. But as she lists all the reasons she should be welcomed by the Huntzburgers she lists really shallow things - I had a debut, my family came over on the Mayflower. Girl, get a grip. This out of touch with her own reality and sense of entitlement has nothing to do with Logan or his family but with Rory's own blindsides to her own brilliance and sense of course I'm going to succeed I'm me nature that everyone - except Logan and in a different fashion his family - props her up to believe is true.

AudeAudor

It was Georges Coe, I only know him because he played Senator Stackhouse in The West Wing and some small roles in other TV shows. But yes, I see he performed a lot as a voice actor :)

AmyAin'tMyName

Finally catching up and since the episode has been talked about I'll add the gossip. Julia Roberts and Keifer Sutherland were engaged and shortly before the wedding, she called it off. On the planned date of the wedding, she went away with his friend and Lost Boys costar, Jason Patric. It was very messy and tabloids ate it up.