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Emile Hirsch, Christina Ricci, Susan Sarandon, Matthew Fox, John Goodman, Roger Allam, Rixhard Roundtree, Rain

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Baby Sasuke

I've been hoping for this ever since I subscribed absolutely love this film and think it's absolutely perfect as an adaptation

D Gyre

Seriously underrated. Lots of films adapt cartoons to live action. This IS a cartoon but live action.

trenton gragg

This movie was released the week after Iron Man was released in May of 2008. Definitely check out the Wachowskis’s first film Bound from 1996. A great 90’s neo-noir crime thriller.

Daniel Lydford

I think Tron did this type of movie better.

The Inedible Mattman

I'm so glad you watched it and that you enjoyed it! I was working at a theater when it came out and got to see it a LOT. I freaking loved this film! Ahead of its time.

Roland

Targeting a different audience I guess, but I agree with you.

Roland (edited)

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2026-10-21 07:00 I watched this in the cinema when it came out, awesome teaser plus The Wachowskis, easy sell. But I didn't enjoy the film very mucheven though I appreciated the effort. Twenty years on, second watching and my opinion hasn't changed. Pretty to look at, but equal parts absorbing and annoying. Love the colour palette and the CGI, hate the dumb spinning racing scenes. But I never watched the original cartoon and I'm not much into Manga, so lively I'm not the target audience.
2026-10-22 09:00 I watched this in the cinema when it came out, awesome teaser plus The Wachowskis, easy sell. But I didn't enjoy the film very mucheven though I appreciated the effort. Twenty years on, second watching and my opinion hasn't changed. Pretty to look at, but equal parts absorbing and annoying. Love the colour palette and the CGI, hate the dumb spinning racing scenes. But I never watched the original cartoon and I'm not much into Manga, so likely I'm not the target audience.
2026-10-20 05:05 I watched this in the cinema when it came out, awesome teaser plus The Wachowskis, easy sell. But I didn't enjoy the film very much, even though I appreciated the effort. Twenty years on, second watching and my opinion hasn't changed. Pretty to look at, but equal parts absorbing and annoying. Love the colour palette and the CGI, hate the dumb spinning racing scenes. But I never watched the original cartoon and I'm not much into Manga, so likely I'm not the target audience.

I watched this in the cinema when it came out, awesome teaser plus The Wachowskis, easy sell. But I didn't enjoy the film very much, even though I appreciated the effort. Twenty years on, second watching and my opinion hasn't changed. Pretty to look at, but equal parts absorbing and annoying. Love the colour palette and the CGI, hate the dumb spinning racing scenes. But I never watched the original cartoon and I'm not much into Manga, so likely I'm not the target audience.

dys

The Wachowskis' output is a very mixed bag to me. Of course the original Matrix is a modern classic, V for Vendetta is very good but not a movie I rewatch or think about much, Sense8 was a show I came to really love but I have to credit their co-creator on that show J. Michael Straczynski at least as much for making the show make sense. I've heard a lot of people really praise this one but never got around to it, I wasn't sure whether it's a cult classic unrecognized in its time or a flawed movie with vocal defenders (as several of their movies I did NOT like, such as Cloud Atlas, turned out to be), so I'll have to check it out later.

that girl

I cannot believe how much I hate how this film looks. Nobody looks like they're in the same physical space as the other characters unless they're on the same plane.

Tyler Explains It All

Hot take: I'm more of a waffle guy. Pancakes are too much for me. I can only have like 2 at the most. But if I had to pick waffles over pancakes, waffles would win every time.

Roland

Cloud Atlas is an amazing novel, with a stunningly unusual literary structure, nested and mirroring. It was always going to be difficult to transfer that to the screen, and while The Wachoskis were probably the best choice available, I don't think they were up to the task. Doing it today, with the latest advances in technology*, and as an Apple or HBO miniseries, could have worked much better. *(e.g. being able to turn the facial aging / de-ageing CGI stuff up to eleven)

Roland

Reading through the comments here, I wonder if this is the most divisive film that J&K have watched to date? For myself, I love that some people really love this film, including perhaps J&K themselves, they seemed very positive throughout the watch and in their afterword. It'll be interesting to read a follow-up from J&K now that they've had a couple of days to digest it. To me, it's s great that different people love different things. Life would be boring if we didn't. So thanks so much to the Sponsor for putting this movie up for a watch, the resulting discussion is really interesting!

The Inedible Mattman

This movie does a bunch of things which no other film ever has, and for that I think the Wachowskis are two of the most brilliant directors of the 21st century. They don't use a depth of field. EVERY single scene has the foreground and background in perfect focus. That, mixed with stark color choices, make the entire film feel like a living cartoon. It's still a technique that no one has ever used before, and hasn't since. Mad props to the Wachowski sisters for being innovative enough to make a film that wouldn't be appreciated for 20 years.

The Inedible Mattman

I'll tell you what ... watch Patrick Willem's essay on Youtube about this movie. He does a great job breaking down why this film is more of a "masterpiece" and less of a "poor friday movie choice" lol After I saw that, I knew Joe and Kevin would love this movie. I'd be really interested in hearing what you think of the Willem essay. I've appreciated your thoughts in your comments!

The Inedible Mattman

OMG thank you While pancakes are delicious, they're "too much". Waffles just settle better for me in my stomach, I think. lol

The Inedible Mattman

Nothing feels "real" by design. This is a living cartoon. Realism was the furthest thing from the Wachowski's mind. I get why it's disturbing. But for that exact reason, I love the film. It breaks all the rules and invents new ones. Sorry you weren't a fan. :(

The Inedible Mattman

Yeah this movie might have done better if it wasn't literally sammiched between Iron Man and The Dark Knight. Talk about VERY bad timing ...

The Inedible Mattman

Exactly! It's mean to be something more than just "a film". And it does what it intends to do without any reservation ... and nails it.

Roland

I'll check out, thanks for the information

D Gyre

I don't think its a movie for everyone, certainly. Especially if you aren't someone who is interested much in anime/cartoons etc. I do think there's a difference between critics who (at the time) thought it was a bad movie versus people who are just "this isn't for me." I think the critics were wrong. I don't think people who don't like this movie for themselves are wrong. You have to be interested in seeing a live cartoon to commit to the pace and insanity of visuals this movie does. Something can be well made and yet not enjoyable. Personally I would rather walk over hot coals than attempt to watch Interstellar all the way through again, I am not a fan. But I don't think it's a badly made movie and I respect the epic scope it was going for.

D Gyre

*French Toast Enters The Chat*

Erin Mileur

After watching Talladega Nights so many times it’s impossible not her in your head “If your not first your last”.

D Gyre

It very much needs to be understood as trying to be a living cartoon. That may not be something you will enjoy watching, but its why its done the way it is, and I think it succeeds in that. But not everyone wants that. Which is very different from movies like V for Vendetta or the Matrix.

Roland

I watched Willem's essay, and his follow-up, definitely interesting viewing, thanks so much for sharing. I can certainly believe that more people appreciate the craft now than back in the day, the NYT critic included. But my suspicion is that, for the most part, people that enjoyed it twenty years ago still enjoy it, people who didn't enjoy it then still don't today, even if they do appreciate the craft. As to whether a higher or lower proportion of kids today would enjoy it, I have no idea, and that's an important question - if the movie was ahead of its time, it should be landing well in 2026, and I'm not convinced that's true. I think ultimately the film simply appeals to some demographics, and not to others. I don't believe the movie was ahead of its time, it isn't recognized as a misunderstood classic... it mostly isn't recognized at all.

dys

@Roland I fully agree Cloud Atlas is an amazing novel. But I don’t think the technology was the problem, and I don’t think the Wachowski sisters were the best choice to adapt it either. Interweaving the stories instead of the mirrored structure of the novel was probably the best way to do a film adaptation I can think of, but the Wachowskis were just too literal IMO in how they tried to plant the threads between the different stories. Instead of evoking themes that run across the stories they just had the same actors play different characters to signal “look! There’s themes in common!” Using convincing CGI instead of heavy and obvious makeup wouldn’t have improved that. I’ve said before that there’s about one hour of good filmmaking in a three hour movie. Ben Whishaw is great in his part of the story, Jim Broadbent is great in his, but this is also a movie that gets career-worst performances from Tom Hanks and Doona Bae and Hugo Weaving.

Youtalkingtome

It's a really fun and clever adaptation. I'm glad we had a chance to check it out

Youtalkingtome

They should have released it towards the end of the year. It would have been really cool to get a sequel to this

Barbara Panigot

I too saw this in the theater. I remember the cartoon. This is the second time I've watched. 😏😏

Claire Eyles

Funny background story to this film. One of the producers, Joel Silver, was also show runner for a short lived Vampire Detective series called Moonlight (alongside executive producers Trevor Munson, who created the show, and Ron Koslow of Beauty and the Beast fame. Moonlight developed a small, but extremely passionate fandom (that's a polite way of saying sections of the fandom were certifiably insane, I should know, I was in that fandom). Part way through the first season of Moonlight, as we found out later from people who had worked on the show, Joel Silver was given a monetary advance by Warner Bros to develop the storyline for Season 2. Guess what he spent the money on instead? Apparently his plan seemed to be that Speed Racer would make a tonne of money at the box office, and noone would notice that he'd spent money that was earmarked for something else. Speed Racer ended up not doing as well at the book office as he'd predicted, so he basically had to front up to Warner Bros with no money for a second season of the TV show. Oh and in the meantime he'd managed to find a loophole to fire the show's original creature, and the writer's room has split into two different camps who couldn't agree on what direction the show should go in. So Moonlight was cancelled after 16 episodes, and we never did get a season 2.