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The West Wing, Season 3, Episode 3 (Patreon)

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2023-08-17 11:18:12
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Manchester Part 2

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The West Wing, Season 3, Episode 3

Manchester, Part 2

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Pam Nail

The thing with Big Tobacco bugs me. Everybody (including Leo and CJ) was singing a different tune at the end of last season and now we get another round of Kick The Dog with Josh. Also ... they're giving up on those states more than a year from the general?! Not to mention assuming they'd have a lock on those states if they -did- have the right timing on that press release -- again, more than a year out? Another nit ... Sam admonishing Connie for saying "Bartlet" five seconds after he said "Jed Bartlet" twice. I do like this two-parter, though. I think a lot of viewers resent these new characters (I know I did at first). But the show does a good job of showing us why they're necessary and getting useful friction with our faves.

Martin Nicholls

I like how everybody is pissed at the President, except Josh who does what Josh always does and gets completely in his own head about something and doesn't talk to anybody - then it's on Donna to snap him out of it or at least get him to talk about it - it's like the thing with the card that tells him where to go when the world is ending and doesn't tell anybody about it but instead stews on it for days, when he breaks the window in his apartment, the thing about his sister and so much more. It'd be really easy to write Josh as on board with what everybody else's problem is, but it's not even on his radar because he's reverting to type. The man is a ball of pure stress.

Aude M

One step a time, gentlemen, one step at a time ;) For now, enjoy this new season, this new beginning, the show doesn't disappoint that I can tell you.

Jeff

When I first saw this episode, the time jumps confused me, but on repeated viewings I grew to love the structure. There are a few future episodes (I think post-Sorkin) in which the flashback structure didn't work as well and was more of a gimmick, but this one was great. Bruno negotiating for a percentage of the ad buys is exactly what political consultants do. For example, if a campaign budgets $1 million of their contributions for political ads, $850,000 will be used for the ads, and $150,000 goes into the pocket of the consultant. This isn't a spoiler, but I will say that the final season concludes Bartlet's story in an appropriately satisfying way. I especially love the episode where he saves Air Force One from Gary Oldman and his band of merry terrorists.

Weird Magic

Originally airing on October 17, 2001, 'Manchester: Part II' is Episode 3 of Season 3 of The West Wing. It is the 47th episode overall and has an IMDB rating of 8.1, placing it as the #12 ranked episode of this season and #36 out of all the episodes shown so far.

D Gyre
>>115422035

it's the tension between governing and campaigning, between doing what's best to run things and what's best for your party and getting elected Bruno cares more about ensuring reelection, some of the others care more about governing.

Youtalkingtome
>>115424168

He really is his biggest critic. Stressed Josh does make for some pretty compelling TV. He's usually really well contained and put together but when he loses his cool. Those are the best episodes of the show.

Taylor

“Break’s over.” It’s what he says to the team at the end of the very first episode. I love that they use it here almost as a way to reset. They get past the MS announcement and campaign launch, and now it’s time to get to work on what comes next.

Lisa Van Brunt

Great reaction as always guys! I'm not sure if you caught this, but when Sam is insisting to Toby that President Bartlet should apologize, Sam says, "It's what everybody calls a sin of omission. Bartlet lied to us." and Toby responds, "President Bartlet, Sam, come on." So I thought it was an interesting juxtaposition later when Sam corrects Connie for not saying "President Bartlet." To me, it was a nice touch by Toby to remind Sam that even if he's mad at the person (which Sam demonstrates by saying to Connie "Cause Jed Bartlet's Jed Bartlet and that's the way it goes."), Sam should never lose the respectful way he addresses the Office of the President. I feel those were very human moments and I love when Toby shows his caring side, even with just a few words. :-)

Youtalkingtome
>>115556011

The gentler side of Toby is amazing. In many ways he is the heart of the show. I love it when we get episodes that focus on him.

Luca Siracusa (Bob)

Manchester ending always moves me to tears: since the moment you see Bartlet in the car with his wife you can feel something different, but that's between them. And I loved how he FIRST made things clear with Abbey since they had a prior deal and he prioritize his marriage instead of the Presidency in this specific case That being said, once Bartlet walks in the classroom you can really feel the difference from the last three episodes. He's funny, he's clever, he's a brilliant mind that jokes about it. They could've gone with the thing about him just going back to his super long stories and anecdotes like with Abbey, but they went with a full apology. By the way: THAT's how you apologize for something. Not just the "I'm sorry" period. He says why he's sorry, why he should've apologized before, what he wants to do and who are the people he wants to do it with. He says he believes in the morals, courage, hearts, and minds of his whole staff and they can do something that's never been done before: win a reelection in their own way This is how you start a season after Two Cathedrals: telling people that they're ready to write a new book together and it couldn't have been done better

Youtalkingtome
>>115581264

It really was an amazing follow up. The first three episodes have been the fallout of TC, and the set up. I'm so ready to see what happens next.

Yannick, from Montréal

Hi there! Newly joined as Patreon member (the only good WW recap available on YouTube, so here's my money ;-) ) To answer about your question on Ad campaign percentage (as a business consultant myself), there are multiple ways to pay for your marketing fees: - Flat fee (per hour/per month/per project) - Percentage of ad spend - Performance-based (added value) Percentage of ad spend is an agency pricing model that works on a commission basis, where agencies get a percentage of your monthly ad budget. Keep up the good work guys!

Youtalkingtome
>>115663074

Hey thanks for clearing that up and thank you so much for subscribing! Glad you're here and we'll keep the episodes coming!

Riesling

Question for you: I noticed watching this two-parter, that characters in the show repeatedly call the president "leader of the free world" and even you do it at one time. Is that an expression that is still used in the USA today? I´ve only heard it in older shows and movies. I´m from Germany and the expression "leader of the free world" always bothered me, because I consider myself free but I definitely never recognized Obama, Trump or Biden as my Leader. Thank you, but I´m fine with Angela Merkel and Olaf Scholz. Just a question that popped into my mind while enjoying your great rections.

Youtalkingtome
>>115741176

Man that's a tough one. When I was a kid that is what The President was. "Leader of the free world." It's a title that was given in better times. Something to aspire to. Sadly I think times have changed. I don't wanna answer how I feel about this and piss anyone off so let's just say it's dated.

Cristy

Thanks for the reaction! I enjoyed it as usual. This is one of the funniest episode intros with CJ and the snake in the barn hahaha. Also, Bruno's first episode! I have a real love/hate relationship with him (the actor who plays him is so good). Crazy to see a younger Connie Britton starring in this too! I really felt sorry for the staff, especially CJ here, and am glad Bartlett finally decided to apologise it was about time!