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The West Wing, Season 3, Episode 10 (Patreon)

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Bartlett For America

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The West Wing, Season 3, Episode 10

Bartlett For America

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jimmy2k4o .

Hey 3rd Annual west wing Emmy Xmas!

JVTrickypants

BUCKETS of tears with John Spencer's performance in that last scene....every time.

JVTrickypants

Regarding romance on The West Wing, one of the actors said it's so rare that a kiss on this show is like full on porn on any other show.

JVTrickypants

"His face has the map of the world on it" has always been a favorite line.

Pam Nail

- Merry Christmas, John Spencer, here's your Emmy! My favorite episode of the season by far and #11 for the series overall. - Joanna Gleason is fantastic. She was the Baker's Wife in the original Broadway production of Into the Woods. - I love how Leo quietly trolls the committee, taking his time to stand and taking meaningless asides to show them who's boss. It's strange but maybe telling that he doesn't do that at all with Gibson, who has just as much attitude as the others. - I've seen people take issue with the President's comment about women baking pies. But growing up in a Baptist church, there would absolutely be pies and cakes made by church ladies in that situation. - I love that Leo keeps asking Jordon out, trying to get it in before she finds out the truth, but it's only after he tells her that she says yes. Sorkin always kept the romance to a minimum, at least partly to emphasize that these characters' lives are consumed by their work. - Thomas Schlamme also directed "Noel," as well as several of the more iconic episodes of the first four seasons.

Kat Oliver

Joanna Gleason (Jordan Kendall) is definitely a theatre actress, she won a Tony Award for Into the Woods. Mike Casper (Clark Gregg) is so Pre-Coulson. Leo with his addiction is spot on, John Spencer and Sorkin knew how to handle both the writing and delivery considering their past. What I get from this episode is that we see how Leo was the perfect conductor for these group of musicians, to create a perfect symphony. And that President Bartlet embraced and trusted that talent

Kat Deuchars

This is definitely an idealised version of Republicans of the era Remember, this was maybe 3 years since the Whitewater palaver was walked into Clinton's impeachment through witness testimony. Painting Bartlett with Leo's addiction as "what else are they lying about?" is exactly the sort of thing the real-life Republican politicians and their lawyers would've done in 2001.

Devon Cooper

This is one of my favorite Leo episodes. His monologue at the end is AMAZING!!!

Peggy G

Gabby. The original Hodor? 🤷‍♀️

MarkyO

Every once in a while I watch John Spencer win his Emmy for this season. It's really a special moment.

Jeff

One of my favorite episodes. And here's a bit of trivia: Joanna Gleason is not only an accomplished actress, she's the daughter of Monty Hall, who produced and hosted "Let's Make a Deal" for many years, and raised nearly a billion dollars for charity in his lifetime.

Laura Room
>>118996587

I definitely recommend watching that clip. It's wonderful and a great way to learn how to pronounce Tommy Schlamme 😂

Yannick, from Montréal

In regards to the campaign, consider this season in the same timeframe as now... Season 3 (September to May) is like this September to next May: It's primaries and caucuses, not the general election campaign. Since he's the incumbent president, unless there's another Democrat candidate running, it's the Republicans that will be doing debates and battling it between them for the moment. Season 4 will then have the General election timeframe.

Youtalkingtome
>>118989706

I'm glad he got an Emmy. He was unbelievable in this episode. He's had a lot of great moments on the show but this was truly HIS episode.

Weird Magic

Dang it Jeff - I was going to mention Joanna Gleason's Dad! guess I need to be quicker :) Josh told Agent Casper "The only reason you're not out there is - I don't know - 'cause you're a woman or something". WTH does that mean? Add this to the President's comment about the women baking pies for the guys in the field - these are the misogynistic type comments that Sorkin should get hammered for IMO. Neither of these were needed and could have very easily been rewritten as both (again IMO) make women sound inferior to men for no good reason. It's really too bad because he's so good at writing almost everything else and on rewatch brings down my personal enjoyment of an outstanding episode and acting performance from John Spencer.. :( John Spencer emmy win video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUqsqIJrLkI Originally airing on December 12, 2001, 'Bartlet for America' is Episode 10 of Season 3 of The West Wing. It is the 54th episode overall and has an IMDB rating of 9.1, placing it as the #1 ranked episode of this season and #6 out of all the episodes shown so far.

D Gyre
>>119032880

The Josh comment to Casper especially. They aren't a big deal, and we know the characters in practice support and respect women around them. But we see these little ingrained things come through in the jokes. Kind of like Sam's comment about the writing being like a highschool girl, this sounds like a little girl. The need to specify a girl rather than this is just highschool writing, especially when there were clearly male writers who had also contributed to those lines, not just the woman he was speaking to. Also, Zachary Loeser commented on the last episode on the names of strong women? Enter Jordon in a power suit. Who is a great character, just after reading that comment I noticed that in this episode. They are just little cracks that show the age of the show and yes, I think also reveal some of the internalized behaviors of Sorkin or others behind the show. Which is not unique to them and especially at the time they were still far more favorable portrayals of women than a majority of other shows I think. To be clear, there is far more to praise and enjoy about this show both in its quality and its messaging than to criticize.

D Gyre

I have been waiting and waiting for you to get to this episode! One of my favorites. I love having a principled republican here, conservatism needs a return to that kind of person, so Calley stepping in to save the day, and the speaker deciding he's right and ending it, is one of my personal favorite moments in the series. I will wait for you in the tall grass because people like you are killing the party.... such a great line and an important message. And as great as that moment is for me it's still overshadowed by Leo's speech about his alcoholism...and really that whole story he tells. His voice through it, how he describes how he feels, the importance it has to the story, just all of it. It's such a powerful scene and such powerful acting. Such a great way to describe how that addiction feels, what it is. I also like how it's just to her, somehow that gives it even more weight, he's not orating to a group but sharing something personal with this one other person. You just want to watch it again and again. An incredible episode. Probably one of my personal top 10 (this show has so many great episodes though!)

Youtalkingtome
>>119058791

I would say all 3 Christmas episodes are in my top 10. They have been outstanding. This episode will make you laugh and cry. It gave me goosebumps and I don't think John Spencer has been any better in anything than this episode.

Balazs Foldes

I love this episode! It's such incredible writing, directing, acting. A perfect one, really. There are many interesting nuances as well. The emotional torpedos with the drinking issue, with the napkin, you just cannot help but feel so overwhelmed. The politics are also so interesting. For sure, Gibson is a terrible person.. Really, the worst trope of a corrupt politician. Running on an election only for the win, the power, the money. Takes what it takes, not caring about the means. And definitely not about the ends. Contrasted by Cliff, as the naive, ideological guy in politics. But the Democrats are not much better, either. Josh trying underhand tactics to fight Gibson, even the president is pushing him to do so. It's just he is not good/lucky enough to achieve what he wants! :) A littlebit like the episode when Sam and Josh wanted to use Laurie to find some stuff about republican politicians to defend Leo. So, yeah, politics is bad. I imagine this is as real as it gets. Also, having had multiple alcohol addicts in the family (all of them passed away by now), this episode works especially intensly for me. Yeah, this is incredibly clever writing, trying to make viewers understand things a little more. Or, at least, trying to make them understand how impossible it is to understand.

Luca Siracusa (Bob)

This episode is the peak of Season 3 for me personally Like Season 2 was the peak of the show, I say it not because the rest is worse, but because this episode is surreal and incredible We could talk about every single aspect of the episode, the many throwbacks like the "There's a guy falling in a hole" by Josh, but for me The West Wing is those 3 minutes at the end Jed and Leo NOW, I will never tell anyone that prefers another character that they're wrong, but once ago I've read a funny comment about The West Wing being a bromance in a White House and - letting aside the jokes, I don't believe there's any other universe where someone like John Spencer and Martin Sheen worked and linked together like this I love CJ, I love Abbey, I love Toby, I love Charlie, I love Josh, I love Donna, I love Sam, damn, I love everyone there But Leo and Jed are the two characters that, no matter how big or small the scene is, no matter how light or deep the moment feels, no matter how many words or seconds of silence they share with another character, by themselves or especially with each others, they make their character grow every time The Napkin that Leo gives to Jed and that Jed gives back to Leo is a continuos sign that "I owe you the love and respect you gave me". Jed wants Leo to be president, then it's Leo that wants Jed to be President, then Jed gets to be President, Jed defends Leo when his alcoholism comes out, then Leo defends Jed when his MS comes out, then Leo gets subpoenad for Jed's MS, but also has to fear about his alcoholism, and meanwhile Leo tries to defend Jed's MS, Jed is trying to push Josh to defend Leo defending him. They are there for each others and they don't tell you that, they SHOW you that continuously. They are bonded for life by a friendship and respect that started when Jed was the first one helping Leo on the side of a street after his alcoholism problem This is not a friendship, this is what a friendship could be if it was between two incredibly respectful, nice and human people at their best when it comes for the other. And yes, Jed leaving the room to let Leo cry was probably even better than giving him the napkin: he let the man be, express his feelings in a way they've never have been taught to do while another man is around, especially with their work relationship Bartlet for America is a symbol that still to this day moves people. Every time you'll see a napkin moving forward, you'll think of this, of that little slogan that started this administration and that was proof of love

Youtalkingtome
>>119103114

I liked the visualization of addiction. You could see the temptation on his face and this episodes use of dissolves was brilliant.

Youtalkingtome

So well said. That was perfect. Their friendship is everything. It's the warmest light on the show.

Max F.

When this episode premiered, I was taking my freshman health class and we were either wrapping up or just begging a section on drug(s) and alcohol addiction (I can't remember which) and had roughly 4 weeks of classes until the semester ended. I had watched the episode as it premiered and I remember enjoying it, but maybe not truly understanding the emotions Leo was going through. The week after the premier, my teacher played the Leo's conversation with Kendall and said that it was one of the best depictions of alcohol addiction he could remember seeing on TV. I cannot remember any other circumstances where something from a television show, so quickly entered my school. News events, sure, but never pop culture like this.

Youtalkingtome
>>119254834

Alcoholism runs in my family so I found this extremely profound. They presented it in a way that wasn't necessarily hard to watch but was still really sad and moving.

Anna

Leo is absolutely my favorite tv character, this episode hit hard as a teen. It hits so much harder as an adult. Leo's explanation was so important and meaningful, I honestly can't praise this episode enough

Youtalkingtome

It's gunna be in my top 5 when this is all said and done with.