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The West Wing, Season 3, Episode 12 (Patreon)

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2023-10-18 22:34:12
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100,000 Airplanes

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The West Wing, Season 3, Episode 12

100,000 Airplanes

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Jeff

Great discussion at the end. I've seen this before, but this is the first time Sam's speech at the end brought me to tears; I think I must be missing the days when there was a sense of hope and optimism in government. Josh's behavior is a good reminder that, even though we tend to like him, he's still a political operative. There are times in later seasons when he seems truly despicable, but we just have to remember that he's doing his job, and doing it well. It's one of the many things I love about TWW: each of the characters makes some pretty big mistakes, and yet we can still understand and empathize with them. Wow, I'm just realizing that you're not even close to the halfway point of the series; there are so many great moments yet to come!

Sarah P

Sam’s cancer speech is beautiful. All of the personal relationships in this episode are dynamic and fun — and the staff ones are incredibly sweet, and more openly personal than we often get. I’m glad that both Josh and Amy ended up having valid points. Amy IS an amazing, extremely accomplished, intelligent, witty, attractive person — and she knows it, and she also knows when Josh is trying to be a little bit underhanded in currying her favor, which she (understandably) instinctively pushes back against. Congressman (eyeroll) Tandy clearly DOES have a strong feminist record when it comes to voting and organizing — so we can understand Amy not questioning his dating motives. BUT, that doesn’t mean he can’t ALSO, simultaneously, be someone who would pursue someone romantically with a “power couple” situation in mind. I like that, in that final look between them, they both seem completely understanding of the situation and where they stand, re: the Tandy argument.

Youtalkingtome
>>120129810

We've seen over 50 episodes and we really aren't even half way there. It's an incredible show and I have no doubt we'll get to see our characters be a little darker, and I hope we get to see them be more complicated.

Mithroch

I always assumed that Ed and Larry were an allusion to Rosencrantz and Guildenstern.

Pam Nail

Sorkin got his degree in musical theater. :) The bit of the speech where Bartlet is talking about terrorism ("no cave so dark," etc.) sounds a lot like Bush's first SOTU after 9/11. Sorkin was slowly but surely weaving in current events, but not in a way that feels cliche or "ripped from the headlines." We've had a few "State of the Union" episodes now and I love that they've covered different angles every time. And here we get some background on how the thing actually gets written -- even down to the superstitious thing where Toby's like "don't ask me how it's going." Josh's "I've still got my lunch money" speech is great and really sets the stage for that uplifting ending.

Martin Nicholls
>>120143412

Yup I was going to mention this - it's the first real hint of post-9/11 subtly creeping into the show.

Weird Magic

56 episodes down - 99 to go! Are you sure we can't talk you into 2 per week? Originally airing on January 16, 2002, '100,000 Airplanes' is Episode 12 of Season 3 of The West Wing. It is the 56th episode overall and has an IMDB rating of 8.0, placing it as the #15 ranked episode of this season and #44 out of all the episodes shown so far.

Balazs Foldes

I think, House of Cards is essentially the anti-West Wing. If WW shows us an idealistic, more perfect world, where politicians want to do good; then HoC shows us an incredibly pragmatic, unscrupulous, cruel, heartless politician and how that would work in a really bad world. Hmmm, seems a little more realistic, though. :(

Balazs Foldes

I think you are absolutely right about the dangers of taking something you hear as fact. Actually, I've realised a couple of times, I tend to remember facts based on what was said in West Wing. I mean, consciously, you know that this show is not a documentary. But you watch it a couple of times and scenes, lines and arguments gonna sinnk into your subconscious, and you will not ever remember immediately, where you know it from. I guess with great scipt-writing power comes great responsibility. Sorkin and his band needs to be cautious.

D Gyre
>>120154691

I for one would be willing to pay slightly more for a higher tier for 2 WW episodes a week. Obviously there would need to be a break or something in between seasons to allow catch up but I'd like this.

Arek Schneyer

I enjoy this episode, though not as much as others in this season. There are some real killer episodes in this season. There are also some enjoyable Titles, alone, and a few great episodes, with great titles.

Daywalker

Wish you guys would do double episodes. Every time an episode ends, I think, "Ohh, next episode is a good one." But would probably want another episode even after two.

Youtalkingtome
>>120302298

With 20+ episodes a season, you got plenty of options and room for favorites. I like to look back on the episodes at the end of the season and pick my favorites.

Youtalkingtome
>>120306542

Yeah, we're trying to make it last! Really digest the episodes and leave room for fresh discussion at the end.

Luca Siracusa (Bob)

This episode is really just: good. I love how Sam is the one siding with Bartlet with ideals and optimism: it's always been like that and he's always been at his side about dreams The speech at the end is great, not perfect because there isn't the Presidential Voice saying it, but it's great Other than that, we really want Pies