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Gelboys Episode 5 Reaction (Patreon)

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Is it me? Am I the villain?

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Tabea

I'm wondering if I'm the villain too because aside from this episode I didn't consider anything Bua did bad, I'm of the belief that its the kind thing to gently reject someone if you get the feeling they like you and you don't return their feelings, but I don't think its ones responsibility? Like at bua's age if I realised a friend liked me romantically but they didn't confess I wouldn't care to bring it up either, if chian wants a clear answer that's on him to bring it up. In bua's position I probably would have thought too that dating someone else in front of that friend is more than clear enough... So to me bua's behaviour is much more excusable than chian's who intentionally led someone on to make someone else jealous. But bua's behaviour this ep is definitely a mess and his confusion and conflicted feelings make me emphasize with him but aren't an excuse, it's just very typical selfish and unreflected teenage behaviour... Like if an adult acted like this I couldn't stand them but I feel like every second teenager messes up like this so I'm just like welp... thats part of growing up I guess. I must say I like bua more and more with every ep though and really look forward to your next reaction. He at least to me actually seems the most clear/up front about what he wants out of these four, and also I really feel for him with his family situation. The need for likes makes me cringe but thats probably really what most teenagers who grew up on social media are like nowadays... people think that online affirmation is a substitute for their lack of love and community. But ah this show is so good and real, so many of the bad behaviour of these leads I look at and recognise my teenage self in like been there done that for sure... Baabin who reads into all of the little things fou4mod does and collects the screenshots yet is too scared to confess, fou4mod who likes chian so much he overlooks that chian doesn't actually meet his need for a relationship just to be with him, chian and fou4mod who both try to make their crush jealous, bua who didn't ever like chian but suddenly feels jealous and possessive when his friend develops feelings for someone and starts questioning himself... its all too real. I love the flawed characters, it's actually human and I want more stories like this

Edison Chen
>>168027461

Right, feelings are so complex but these stories capture the human experience! Bua is so starved for affection that he is afraid to lose Chian and the comfort he provides and Bua can’t work out what his feelings are for him. I’m still not sure what letting fourmod change the channel password means as well hmm. I think the worst thing that’s happened so far was fourmod cancelling on the concert but in the big picture it’s not that unforgivable. -E

Tabea

just finished the whole reaction and found myself laughing because usually I find myself agreeing more with tophers and dcs takes but this time I'm really completely on your side Edison, I have such a different view of Bua. Nothing in the past episodes implied that Bua was just hanging out with Chian because he enjoyed the attention, I think it was pretty clear that they were the closest people in each others life, constantly spending time together, and Bua didn't just appreciate Chian being there, he invested in him too like buying him clothes that reminded him of him etc, even had his house key, which I think shows how close and genuine they were. I think they had an incompatibility where Bua likes doing things with friends that could be seen as flirty, and Chian read them as such and thus felt like he was given hope, but I'm convinced that is simply a difference in character and nothing Bua did intentionally/no breadcrumbing. I've been in the same situation where I liked a friend and had to realise they are the type to be very close and flirtatious platonically, and it was on me to put up my boundary as to not get my feelings hurt, not them who were wrong as a person. What Bua did do intentionally were the games he played this ep when Fourmod was around and that was very manipulative of him, and he intentionally chose that tiktok challenge to kiss Chian, but even that he only did after Baabin motivated him to look into whether his feelings are romantic (which I think was only half out of genuine intentions and half because Baabin would profit off of Chian and Bua dating), so he did it to try to figure out his feelings and not to manipulate Chian. Chian needed time away from Bua to heal and that's totally fair, but me personally I don't think in a friendship it's okay to just pull away like that without explaining WHY you're putting up that boundary. I'd usually agree that you don't need to explain your boundaries but in this case this isn't just chian putting up boundaries but literally vanishing out of Bua's life from one day to the other, and that as seemingly his only or as one of his few support systems, which is understandably painful and probably also one of the reasons why Bua never rejected Chian more clearly in the first place because losing Chians friendship is exactly what he didn't want. That scene when Bua came to Chian's art class you could tell he was extremely hurt over being ghosted, that didn't look to me like someone who just cares about Chian for attention but someone who treasured his friend and feels betrayed. I won't defend everything about Bua, e.g Chian mentioned that Bua would spend less time with Chian when he had Moo, and it sucks when people neglect friends just cause they're dating, and Bua caring so much about getting likes he wants Chian to continue helping him even when he knows he needs space is unempathetic and selfish. About him saying he won't see anyone else if it will cause issues between him and Chian, I didn't read that as Bua being intentionally manipulative and breadcrumbing either, but because Chian is currently the only person who Bua feels is genuinely there for him (we didn't see enough to judge how serious and good what he had with Moo was) he's desparate not to lose him and thinks keeping their friendship matters more than romance. It's really immature, but not out of bad intentions in my eyes. Bua doesn't get a lot of love, his moms don't care about him and fight about who has to keep him, giving him the feeling of not being wanted, he doesn't experience someone genuinely caring about him. Even Chian who gives him attention ultimately wanted a relationship out of it, which isn't wrong but is a feeling that can suck when you just want a friend. That's where Baabin comes in at the end and shows Bua genuine care and empathy, which I was so happy to see. A person like Baabin is exactly what Bua needs in his life. He's not shallow and selfish, he's neglected and lonely. Tbh I don't know why I feel so defensive of Bua because I don't see myself in him much personally, but I just really dont get where the feeling that he's the villain any more than the other characters comes from. It feels like up till Chian started to pull away because of Fourmod Bua was just minding his own business.

Edison Chen
>>168038328

Yeah I agree with this! Thanks for putting it into words. Obviously we all take our biases and experiences coming into the show, but also we’re trying to decipher the characters via the director’s choices and themes and it doesn’t make sense to me to villainize one of the main characters more than the others- the whole show has been about depicting nuanced flawed but real people. I like Bua as an opportunity to discuss relationships that sit within vague territories. Sometimes we navigate complex feelings that aren’t strictly platonic nor romantic. Bua gets so much out of a queer friendship with someone of similar interests - that accusing him of doing things for attention seems like a bit of a harsh connotation. But also I was called out for identifying with Bua which is true- I have so much trouble navigating nuances between actions and intentions that border morality. There’s many times that I don’t feel like I have ill intentions, but my selfishness or ego paint me as a bad person in other peoples eyes - which is an insecurity! Anyways I think the other point was that Moo was more of a ploy to signal Chian that he was in the friend zone. If anything - Moo’s perspective is that he’s the one who is being potentially used. 😱 In the end I think it all boils down to some sort of personal affirmation of the greyness of humans. We see so much pain being inflicted without intent in this story - where everyone’s trying to navigate their feelings, desires, and loneliness. For me and why I ultimately defend most characters is that - I rarely think that people intentionally hurt others and feel good about it- and I wish we would all treat each other with more grace and trust. - E