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Hi guys, I learned this morning that Apple wants a 30% bite out of creator income, so if and only if you use the Patreon app to subscribe to creators, that means an extra 30% tacked on to your tier price. THIS FEE DOESN'T EXIST FOR DESKTOP, MOBILE SITE, ANDROID USERS, GOOGLE PLAY, ETC.

This is solely a change that affects you if you subscribe through the Patreon app at the Apple app store. Using the app to browse/view creator pages you're subscribed to is fine, it just applies if you use the app to actually do the act of subscribing.

Just don't use the app honestly. I'm not sure who does since it's janky as hell, but just in case.

You can unsubscribe and then resub through any other method that's not the app and you're fine.

This will go into effect for new subs starting in November of this year.

Thank you!

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Robin Lee

I use the mobile app but I'm on android lol

DandelionGirl

Does this effect non apple users?

Elias

Does this include google play? 🤔

K.

I just got the email 🥲 Dude I already get taxed 30% on my total income and now Apple wants 30% of this?

BAMBIOPUS

That's nasty 😭 I'm on the android app, do you know if they'll be billing you extra for that?

Sorceringing

what the hell thats so scummy... is Android okay? i'm on android and will 100% dump it if its also causing that!!

Twirl Yuu

Ouff I uninstalled the app straight away, what the hell?!

averageghost

That's actual robbery. 30% is insane!

tendermiasma

No, you will only be affected if you use the patreon app through the Apple store to subscribe

tendermiasma

Only the if you use the Patreon app through the Apple store to subscribe. This is purely an Apple thing.

tendermiasma

They will not, it's only if you use the Patreon app through the Apple store to sub

Leafy

Ah heck! I’ll unsubscribe and resubscribe from my PC

thoughts-of-bear

I think the app is fine, at least for android.

Yume

Damn I had no idea! I’ll need to check my subscriptions now and resubscribe with my PC 😭

MITHEAL

what the hell 😭 and i think i subbed from my app too, time to fix that

Aesc

So if I use the app to view but subscribe on pc I won’t get the tax? Also, is the price increasing 30% or are you just getting 30% less of it? Thanks for the heads up!!

tendermiasma

Yes as long as you do not subscribe through the app you won't get the tax. Viewing is fine. I can't afford a 30% cut so the price would increase 30% for people who subscribe through the Apple app. Any other method will not see this increase.

VenomouslyYourz

That is so scummy. 30% is straight up robbery

Dora

One of many reasons why I have been sticking to Samsung lol

Lt

Boo okay, I’ll fix my subs, thanks for letting us know 💜

agressivemuffin

Hi. I subscribed through the mobile site and used the app to view, but I was billed $4.80 when I checked my bank account. Should I delete the app in this situation?

tendermiasma

No, that's reflective of your local taxes. They will vary by where you live.

Abby

Yeah 30% is insane!

Ismene

Gonna unsubscribe and resubscribe tonight, that’s so sketchy, ew. Thanks for posting about it!

tendermiasma

Thank you for resubbing! I'm getting my first experience in nervously seeing Patreon make a change and my member fluctuations that follow haha

Mossy

Wow, that's nuts. thanks for letting us know!

Kendall Stout

My bill is 8 dollars even for my subscription, I think that means I subbed through another site? I have a dory brain so I can’t quite remember. But does that mean you’re getting a cut? I might still unsubscribe then resub on my computer, just in case

tendermiasma

First of all, thank you for your generous support, it means a lot to me! These changes don't happen until November so it could have been from the app. I am not getting any of the extra 30% either, it all goes to Apple. Best to stay away from it.

IsShrimpz

Another artist I subscribed too said they were able to turn the price increase off on themselves in their settings, is that an option?

aidoneus

nah that’s such bullshit?? tysm for letting us know cause now I am going to resub to every artist i got on here! another apple L tbh

Aesc

It’s sounding like this will not affect any sub including Apple app subs before November 2024 fyi

tendermiasma

The two options for this is to increase the prices of the subscriptions in only the IOS app, or for me to lose that 30% out of my earnings through subscriptions on the app.

Taylor

Now what if you have a Mac too🤔 can I use safari or would I need to use chrome? Or is it just specifically the app…?

Zay

I wondered the same thing, since I have a MacBook too…

13SwaggyDragons

Motherfucker I’m broke enough as it is

tendermiasma

The fee will only apply if you do it through your phone using the Patreon ios app.

tendermiasma

Just don't subscribe to any Patreons through the app starting in November and you won't be charged. Awful that they're doing it in the first place but it's a very easy fee to avoid.

13SwaggyDragons

Oh so if I’ve subscribed through the app before then, I’m good?

Lt

Apparently there is a way for you to disable it yourself! Another creator posted about it!

Abby

Hank Green has a great video on how different apps in the apple store handle their 30% additional fee, apple is also currently being sued because of it, i dont want to put links to the video and articles because i dont know if it'll get flagged as spam so the video is called "STOP Subscribing to Things on your Phone!!!!" by hankschannel on Youtube, its not just patreon as well its Every subscription based app in the store, so if you've used your phone to subscribe to anything in an app from the apple store please double check and cancel it and resubscribe on desktop!

Izzy

You should be. I guess we’ll all find out this November 😅