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apparently the wrong episode, i guess we’ll post the actual 4th episode next week 😂

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Alex

Am I crazy or is this the wrong episode

Alex

I think that's episode 5

J

yeah, it is.

Kara

girlies you uploaded 4x5 not 4x4, 4x4 is the sydney haircut episode

Michael M

The house in the beginning is a Frank Lloyd Wright house turned into a museum. He was a very famous architect in the Chicago area in the early 1900's. Many of his buildings are tourist attractions and landmarks today. Carmy was just looking for some inspiration.

SwampFox95

Carm wasn’t visiting a grave or buying anything. He was simply enjoying some free time for a change, visiting historical places in the city.

Michael M

Lol, my dumb ass was like "wow they must have really disliked the haircut scenes"

Kara

hahaha it's also the only episode I liked this season so I was confuseddd

Daniel Molina

I really hope they just mixed up the uploads because going back to episode 4 after this cliffhanger would be ROUGH 😅

QuasiRNG

Woah skipped the 4th episode!!

Scott

I think it speaks volumes as to just how little progression is happening in this show that LM could accidentally skip an entire episode without realizing something was off.

César Mongez

That's not true. The same thing happens if you skip Richie’s episode (2x07) or Tina’s (3x06). The Bear often uses standalone episodes to build character, not just advance the plot. You might not notice anything missing plot-wise, but those episodes are essential for understanding their development.

Kara

@Cesar: I don't agree that you can skip 2x07 at all, it has load-bearing character development for Richie, he literally changes personality from start to finish and the transformation would be incomprehensible without the ep. You can definitely skip 3x06 (Tina's) though, its cute to see her and mikey interact but it sort of has negative character development (she said In s1 she's been in the kitchen "since you were a baby" but here it shows she joined just a few years before)

Siti Dee

Gaspsss! you skipped the best episode 🥲

Robert Dirk H.

Milena's favorite food is pizza? 😂 That's simple! I was expecting something a bit more unusual. 😀

petitcorbeau

Noooo where is my girl Sydney and her episode 🥲 based only with the intro it doesn't seem at all like you mixed up the uploads but just skipped the fourth episode lol idk how since you name the right title at the beginning haha

alex otis

I genuinely believe Lola hates carmy. Like a lot. The disdain in her face when talking about him is wild stuff sometimes. And he hasn’t gone to therapy yet so he isn’t doing the right things to fix himself according to her. Makes me laugh everytime.

Darrach

Well that’s certainly an opinion

Kara

I hate carmy, hes a little worm, he hasn't improved in any measurable way in 2 or even 3 seasons

alex otis

I mean it’s fairly clear you do t like the show. So that doesn’t surprise me. I’m not sitting here saying carmy is amazing. Or that she is wrong in disliking him. It’s just funny and I mean literally, ti me when she tries to show him some love it just devolves into he is not a good person. No wrong I. That thought. I do t think he is a good person. But I love his character. I’m also not sitting expecting the show to live at some specific pace in showing him changing. It’s a process. Would it be better if we just came back next episode and it was 3 weeks later and came went to therapy and was “fixed”. I do t think that’s good tv either. This to me and may be only to me, isn’t a normal show. We are seeing the drawn out process of a man like carmy figuring out how to fix himself. Will it work. Who knows. But he is lnt doing nothing. I think I’m on the opposite side of you where I love this show to much. And nothing is wrong that they do. So I just can’t comprehend people not liking such a real show like this. But this all massively subjective and this is just how I feel.

alex otis

And I should say. You don’t like the show anymore. Not trying to pretend I know how you felt before this season or the third season.

Virgil Hawkins

That’s not really "negative character development". At its worst, it’s a plot hole, but really her choice of words can be rationalised as just hyperbole. The flashback does a lot for fleshing out both Tina’s character and Michael’s.

Virgil Hawkins

Tbh I feel like seasons 3 & 4 are meant to be seen as 1 long season, and I really wish they were able to release in that way

Jay Craig

Tina also just straight up has a grown son so has ‘been in the kitchen’ rightly as long as Syd’s been alive

Gaboxxy

@Kara It's been 4 seasons for us but like a year and a half for them. Like damn, give my boy some time, he's trying...

Robert Dirk H.

20 episodes per season? Are we in 2012? :D

Kara

I said before but 3 and 4 clearly should have been merged into 1 season where the theme is "its hard running a restaurant" and "figuring out your own happiness in chaos" - nat's baby, [spoilers episode], ebra getting into business for OG Beef franchising, carmy being bad boss and working thru it, sydney deliberating over whether to stay etc. 3 and 4 feel like Season 3 Part 1 and Part 2 but stretched to 20 eps. plot points starting in s3 stretch into S4 rather than wrapping up

Kara

@alex: a lot of people make this argument but I don't buy it, if the show is interested in a "long drawn out process" why do we get fairytale soap opera personality shifts (which I loved btw) for Tina, Richie, Ebra, arguably Marcus, Fak and Sweeps. I don't know why the options are "3 seasons of wheel spinning" or "single episode magical fix". I like slow build TV, but the situation has to shift over the course of a season, and it really feels bad to have many characters be in the same place starting S4 as they were starting S3, when compared to the amazing shifts we saw in S1 and S2 - compare Tina 1x1 to Tina 3x1, compare Richie. btw, Richie went from being an asshole loser to the most loved character in exactly 1 episode and everyone was eating it up including me. I thought S1 was 9/10 and S2 was 10/10 for the record, which is why I was so disappointed by 3 and 4, it's one of the few shows that actually improved on perfection in a followup series I rewatched S1 with a channel recently and its honestly night and day difference. I recommend it if you have time

Kara

Tina's character in S1 makes infinitely more sense if she's been working in the kitchen for 20 years, not 4 years and I think it's obvious she was written that way until they wanted to do the flashback and change the story. This is fine, it's not a big deal - it's a straight retcon to make "I've been in this kitchen" = "I've been in [a kitchen, in my home]" and that's fine, but it's a worse story imo. Tina is more interesting to me if she's a 20+ years career cook who learns to change her ways thanks to a young inspiring coworker who starts as an enemy and ends as a mentor. But it doesn't really matter, no, all that is still true, its just slightly worse to me 🤷 I wouldn't say the episode fleshes out those characters a lot. It adds a few details, like that Michael will vibes hire anyone (we did basically know this because he vibe hired Marcus from a mcdonalds job to open a bakery) including a sad lady with no experience, and we learn the new backstory for Tina. We get a hint of what the restaurant was like before decline (that we already basically new). It's a cute episode, I like the relationship with the husband, I think it was well directed by Ayo Edebiri. I just fundamentally think you can do so much more with this type of ep, like 2x6 or 2x7, like 3x1, even like 4x4 (the actual one).

César Mongez

Do you really believe that everything that happens in seasons 3 and 4 could be told in just one season of 10 thirty-minute episodes? Come on

Virgil Hawkins

Yeah I do think 20 episodes is too many, especially if they want to release all the episodes at once. Tbh I think the season 3 section could’ve been shortened a little, even though it’s clear that the season 3 finale is meant to be the turning point/midpoint.

T T T

Upload Ep4 & 6 next week? lol

Virgil Hawkins

I think it’s fair to feel like it’d be more interesting if Tina had actually been a cook for decades, but I’d say that 3x6 focuses a lot on how she was affected by the passage of time and why she would feel so fearful of Sydney. It’s a different angle, but not necessarily a worse one imo. I could fully believe that it’s a retcon (I don’t think the bear has been super consistent in its timelines throughout the show regardless), but I don’t think that matters that much, because it doesn’t make any past character development less meaningful. It’s just meaningful in a different way. With Michael, that conversation tells us a lot more about his character and why he was always pursuing new business ideas. We can see the seeds of sadness in him and how inspired, yet discouraged he is by Carmy’s passion and talent. This angle on how much Carmy affected Michael hadn’t been explored before.