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Mad Men 2x13 Full Reaction (Patreon)

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2025-09-07 22:18:56
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Clay F

Stellar TV. The ending scene is so nuanced. Betty is stunningly beautiful in physical appearance but seems to be a tragic figure. I feel for Duck with his alcoholism but not a fan. Peggy continues to impress (and Elisabeth Moss such an incredible actor). Agree that Peggy is the antithesis of Betty. Pete is weird but I sense more complexity from him. I have not been a fan of Pete but he became more interesting to me this episode. I want to say more about Pete but won't. Don continues his role as one of the most interesting protagonists in the history of TV.

JBK405

Pete is just....what can we even say about Pete? I think him telling Don about the merger is the most "moral" stand he has ever taken in the show so far, where there is no IMMEDIATE benefit for him but he's doing it because he thinks it's the 'right thing to do'. But immediately following it up with the exact same self-entitled pass at Peggy is just so sad. He's such a child, and doesn't even realize it. Although for some reason my memory had Peggy's confession to Pete happening later in the series. I don't know why my memory moved it around. Speaking from a purely business perspective, with the past season to think about, it looks like Duck Phillips was never the right choice as Head of Accounts for S&C. He has a different strategy and perspective than the management already in place, and neither were ever able to bring the other around to their own way of thinking. That doesn't even mean that Duck is wrong. But he's not right for this company. I think it would've been better for everybody involved if he just hadn't been hired in the first place, and S&C got a Head of Accounts who had the same priorities that the rest of them do. (Not Pete, he wasn't ready, but maybe one of the other candidates Don was interviewing at the time). Other comments already went over it, but the Cuban Missile Crisis was a unique moment in history. People didn't just think that the war might start 'someday', they thought it might start NOW because the situation seemed to be spiraling out of control. So everybody's going through immediate fears of mortality, even more oppressive than the usual fears about nuclear war happening 'eventually'.

Julien

Perplexed by the description of Pete's confession to Peggy as a "pass" and a "self-entitled" one at that, when it's perhaps the most open and vulnerable thing he has done in this series so far.

JBK405

Because in the midst of Pete's 'confession' he says that he wants her, and talks about how he knows her and she knows him, when that isn't remotely true. They don't have a special romantic connection, they had a few isolated hookups and he treated her horribly until she realized that he was a manchild and wisely moved on. There's been a few times afterwards where he's tried to have a heart-to-heart with Peggy where he just talks about himself and his life and his desires, and he acts offended when she doesn't give him the unconditional love and support that he thinks he deserves. Pete doesn't know how much he doesn't know about Peggy, and he doesn't even realize that he doesn't know how much he doesn't know. Which is why he was utterly CRUSHED when she told him about the baby and everything else. Because he had this fantasy that they were soul-mates, and he didn't realize that her infatuation with him ended two years ago. "I love you and want to be with you" is one thing. "I love you and I know you and you also love me and know me and we're connected" is something else, and that's why I called it self-entitled.

Kara

Very good points! It doesn't really get discussed much here or generally, but Don hired Duck and was essentially the final sign off (Cooper did technically sign off, but he straight up said he trusted Don's judgement as a new partner). If Duck was the wrong choice for SC at that time (imo he was) then it's really Don's fault for basically buying an accounts man at a discount and trusting he was the right person for the job. Of course Don had a lot of factors to consider - cost, size of the agency making it harder to attract talent etc. But he really should have found someone who was genuinely, purely excited to work with Don as a creative genius, to champion creative and focus narrow as opposed to wide. Of course Don mainly "pulled the trigger on Duck Phillips" because Pete pressured him, but he didn't have to actually follow through I guess lol. To his credit when prompted Don did try to defuse the growing tension between him + Duck + treat him with respect + give him a real chance but yeah, he shouldn't have been hired, Don should have took a little longer and found someone a bit greener but who was more ideologically aligned. I can only speak from personal experience but like 95% of workplace issues stem from communication problems and general misalignment, I'd almost always hire someone who was 'aligned' rather than 'really good on paper' and most of my best/fav ever hires have been people like that.