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Mad Men 3x09 Reaction (Patreon)

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2025-10-10 00:02:42
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2025-11-22 20:40:40
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ive been trying to upload the full 3 times and it doesn’t want to finish loading up, i don’t know if its vimeo or me but hopefully its fixed by the morning

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Kara

All good! I sent you a DM btw, sorry if you've seen it already ❤️ just not sure if you read those

Taya

The hits just keep on coming. First Pete, now Don, and Betty "maybe it's not the right time for civil rights" Draper lol

Nina

Was funny to watch you expect SOME support from Don to Sal to realizing that he's not really any better than the rest of them.

JBK405

Oh there is SO much in this episode. The last scene with Sal is not him going after Lee Garner, but it was him going for a male hookup. The interpretation is that since he's lost his job, which was one of the big reasons for him hiding so fiercely, he is now 'giving in' to his desires. The 16th Street Baptist Church bombing was a watershed moment in the US Civil Rights movement (Along with many other watersheds around the same time). The public outrage helped galvanize motion (Along with many other public outrages around the same time). I think it says a lot about Betty that she goes BACK, and says maybe Civil Rights aren't necessary right now, when a large portion of the rest of the country was finally stirred forward. I am obviously disgusted by Lee Garner and Roger and Don for firing Sal, but I'm FRUSTRATED at Harry for not preventing the explosion. He shouldn't have done "nothing", he should have approached Roger or Don and said there was some kind of beef between them, and they could have sent Sal home that day so Lee would have never run into him in the meeting. It's still slimy that they're trying to placate a piece of scum, but Sal would have done it happily if it kept him in a job, and Roger/Don would have been happy to make it LOOK like they're doing what the client wanted. Harry could have saved the day by opening his mouth sooner. I consider this one of Don's lowest moments, when Sal asks what Don would think if he had been a young girl and Don says it would depend on what kind of girl she was and what he knew about her. He is essentially saying "I know you wanted it and invited it anyway, so this is your own fault". He's not JUST a coward for giving in to a skeevy client, he's skeevy himself.

Kara

I think I've said this before but contemporary polling showed that the majority of Americans thought that the civil rights movement was asking for too much too fast or that their methods were too disruptive. Even some supporters were like "slow down, be patient, expect less". It's an interesting coincidence to be watching these eps of Mad Men and Andor around the same time, with discussions about the need for violence and aggression and nonstop persistence in the face of oppression etc.

Taya

@Kara, Nina Simone mentions this in her song Mississippi Burning. Picket lines, school boycotts They try to say it's a communist plot All I want is equality For my sister, my brother, my people, and me Yes, you lied to me all these years You told me to wash and clean my ears And talk real fine just like a lady And you'd stop calling me Sister Sadie Oh, but this whole country is full of lies You're all gonna die and die like flies I don't trust you anymore You keep on saying, "Go slow" Go slow

Eric Viola

"But when I say I want the moon, I expect the moon". This moment always stuck out to me more than most. Connie wanted a campaign that centered his evangelizing mission that he expressed to Don. A campaign about spreading America culturally around the world through his hotels. Don's campaign was about attracting people who were already American vacationing abroad to his hotels.

Nina

Doing nothing was the most Harry thing he could've done, he doesn't have the capability for anything more, he's a pure coward. He should learn in this episode that doing nothing is also a (often bad) choice, but will likely learn nothing.

Mike

I don't want to excuse what Don did AT ALL, because it was probably the cruelest thing he's done in the whole show so far, but it is interesting to consider the situation from his perspective: We the audience know exactly what happened, and that Sal is telling the truth. But from Don's perspective, he only knows that Sal *has* cheated on his wife, and *does* lie to everyone at the office about his sexuality. If he had willingly hooked up with Lee Garner Jr., and LGJ had demanded his firing anyway (a perfectly plausible outcome imo), wouldn't Sal be in his office saying the same thing? The show likes to paint Don as relatively open-minded, and I think Sal probably thinks (or thought) the same. But remember what he actually told Sal in the premiere: "Limit your exposure." Creating a major blow-up with the biggest, most important client at the firm isn't that. If you squint, you can almost see Don thinking that he should have turfed Sal months ago, back when he discovered his secret. Anyway yeah, horrible stuff from Don. Like Betty's disgusting comment about civil rights, the show likes to give you whiplash over your expectations regarding social progress. It's a show about the 60s! It's about the civil rights movement and burgeoning acceptance! Uh, no, not all at once. Most of these characters aren't there yet at all. *Speaking of limiting your exposure, that's essentially the warning that Suzanne gives to Don about their affair being too close to home. Of course, he doesn't care. Don being a hypocrite. Who would have guessed.

Mike

Totally fascinating to follow up the Pete story from last episode with this one, largely about the (very real) power the clients have over the team at SC. Watching Connie & Lee Garner Jr. take liberties with Don & Sal... the parallels are striking. And of course that's all contrasted by Henry waiting for Betty to come to him. Great stuff. Edit: Listening the post-show discussion, I don't think Don was implying that Sal should have slept with Lee to keep him happy. I think he doesn't believe Sal's version of the story (that Lee came on to him and he rebuffed him). He thinks they did hook up and that Sal is trying to save his job by denying it. Hence the comment "that would depend on what kind of girl it was, and what I knew about her". i.e. whether he knows that she "gets around". (Obvious hypocrite BS from Don, who is himself a serial cheater, but that's par for the course. And of course there is latent homophobia inherent to Don's opinion that Sal is that kind of guy. They all are, right?) Tenagrq, gurer vf n qvssrerapr orgjrra Qba'f eryngvbafuvc jvgu Fny naq uvf eryngvbafuvc jvgu Wbna, naq uvf crefcrpgvir ba ubzbfrkhnyvgl va trareny pbybhef guvf gbb -- ohg jr ner tbvat gb svaq bhg rknpgyl jung Qba guvaxf bs jubevat bhg uvf rzcyblrrf gb pyvragf. Ur qbrfa'g yvxr vg! Double Edit: It's funny to hear them holding on to the idea that Peggy must be progressive. That's why the show has to tell these kinds of stories with Pete (last week) and Don. Just because we love these characters doesn't mean they are great people.

Nina

This quote from MLK is extremely relevant to this episode and particularly Betty's comment to Carla: "I must confess that over the past few years I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in his stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Counciler or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate, who is more devoted to 'order' than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice."

Taya

TBF Peggy hasn't really said or done anything problematic so far (that I can remember) and was very kind to Kurt after finding out he was gay. I'm sure if you were to sit her down and ask about her views, she wouldn't be modern-day progressive, but she seems to be as progressive as you could reasonably expect for the early 1960's. (I hope I'm not forgetting any glaring exceptions to this lol)

Mike

Oh I'm not saying that you or they are forgetting anything (or implying that there is something nasty coming up). It's just funny to seem them holding out hope for the last "good character" left. These characters are designed to disappoint you!

Taya

Very true, with this show you have to accept that your favorite characters will occasionally disappoint, enrage, and disgust you lol.

Richard Welch

I don't get where the idea comes from that Don doesn't believe Sal's story I don't think that was the read at all. I think he thinks Sal is a hypocrite.

Richard Welch

Unfortunately you still hear a lot of that sort of rhetoric. I remember during the 08 election you'd hear things like the US isn't "ready" for a Black president, and you still hear it whenever a popular woman candidate is running.

Richard Welch

There's definitely a lot of debate and discussion around the "appropriate" way to protest. People frequently want to be able to ignore these issues.

Mike

@Richard Welch Huh? His first response when Sal tells the story is a 100% skepticism. "But nothing happened. Because nothing could have happened. Because you're married." Don already knows (or assumes, based on what he saw in Baltimore) that Sal would cheat on his wife with another man. And when Sal swears on his mother's life that nothing happened, Don says "Are you sure you want to do that?" It's possible that Sal convinces him -- he softens towards him at the end of the conversation -- but I certainly don't think he was ever implying that Sal *should* have slept with LGJ to make him happy.

Mike

The episode is tragedy for Sal, but inserting Harry into the situation is such a perfect, hilarious choice. Of course LGJ thinks he can bully him into firing Sal. Of course he isn't going to do anything. The guy is a walking doormat.

cc

Don was an ally to Sal. Don couldn't care less about Sal being gay; if it were an issue, Don would've fired him the second he knew Sal's secret. If anything, Don felt closer to Sal for it. When Don feels he relates to somebody, that's really the closest we've gotten to seeing him look at another person as anything resembling a "friend" (Connie telling Don how relatable he finds him is the most recent example - it really got to Don, and you could tell it meant a lot to him). Don liked Sal. He went out of his way to encourage and compliment Sal's work a few episodes ago, which is something we never really see him do to anyone. He told Sal he was gonna hire him to direct a commercial again and, not only did he CLEARLY keep his word on that, but he gave Sal the agency's MOST IMPORTANT ACCOUNT EVER. DON WAS AN ALLY TO SAL. When Don says "You people", he's not being homophobic. He's simply a) being a baby and projecting his own insecurites about identity and living a secret life (like Sal is) and b) he's pissed at Sal for "getting caught" the way a friend would be mad at another friend; to Don, someone who has essentially had total control of his secret for years, the idea of slipping-up and losing all you've built is so unacceptable that he can't help but to be annoyed. It's skewed and detached and unfair of him, but I think it's really the only way Don knows how to relate to Sal in the moment. And it's fucking heartbreaking. Also, I choose to be optimistic about Sal. Whether you like it or not, getting fired led to him finally building up the courage to openly live his truth for what is presumably the first time in his life. And that IS a beautiful thing.

Kara

"You People" is homophobic. From the episode commentary: "And here's Don basically saying: Your dress was too low cut, your skirt was too short, or whatever. [...] He says 'You People are promiscuous', 'You People' is a stereotype about gay people that Don has. And Don is promiscuous too, but [he's saying] 'you people' can't keep it [together], it's so incredibly unfair." The other things Don says are rooted in gay stereotypes too. Gay men are slutty, they're asking for it, they can't keep it in their pants (perhaps they have sex with random bellhops in Baltimore hotels? etc). These are homophobic beliefs Don has. If your allyship doesn't survive contact with the enemy it's not real allyship. You can be as tolerant as you like, you can pretend your gay coworker isn't gay, even promote them etc. But if you don't defend them when they need defending, what's the point? That's when true allyship is tested. It's not even rare, we have people in 2025 who consider themselves "allies" then turn around and vote for anti-LGBTQ+ policies, who let their queer coworkers be thrown under the bus at work etc. If you're struggling to understand just think: What would Don have said and done if it was Peggy instead of Sal? What words would he have used? How hard would he have fought for her, how long would he have spent trying to fix the situation? I think we know the answer.

Kara

"Gay men are slutty" is a stereotype that Don believes based on what he's saying. He straight up implies that Sal was asking for it, reciprocated etc. To build on what Mike said, he literally saw Sal in a sexual situation with a random bellhop in Baltimore, which probably didn't help his own personal stereotypes/prejudices of gay men lol. he was probably like "damn gay guys *are* sluts" even though it's likely the first time Sal ever even kissed a man.

Kara

I posted in a reply above but on the commentary Matthew Weiner said that Don has prejudices against gay people based on the stereotype that they're promiscuous, hence "you people" etc. This definitely wasn't helped when he finds out Sal - the only gay guy he knows probably - is gay because he's sleeping with a random bellhop he just met lol. It probably just made him think the stereotypes were true even though its (probably) the first gay encounter sal ever had. don is so funnyyy. "limit your exposure" "you people" he says, as he parks his highly noticable blue cadillac outside his lovers apartment on road into the city. (you did double don defender duty this week, someone else needs to put in a shift haha)

Mitchell Atkins

That doesn’t make Don homophobic…. He’s not, if he were, he would’ve found a way to fire Sal when he initially found out but instead he let Sal know to basically be careful around others because they may have issues with it, unlike him… Don is a persona, and yes, he shouldn’t have said those things but it came out in a moment of frustration and stress, and again, he shouldn’t have said them, but it was 1963, and may have made it easier for himself to go through with firing Sal because he had to, for the business to survive; that doesn’t make him homophobic, it makes him complicated and flawed like every person. But again, Don is a persona, or an act, not actually dick… And your equivalence to Peggy doesn’t make sense… it was much more of a “stigma” to be gay then, it’s nowhere near the same, if it were Peggy. If don did something, or said something, they lose their biggest client and basically puts everyone out of a job, and then on top of that, he would be outing both Sal and Lee garner jr. and I’d hate to say again that he shouldn’t have said those things, but I don’t want someone to take it the wrong way, but he dealt with a lot of frustrations and stress with this and with Connie and he said regrettable things, which is a constant with Don. He always says and does things he regrets or that are regrettable, mostly with Peggy, when something prior always stresses and frustrates him. Again, I always felt he put on an act, which Don is, to say those things just to make it easier for himself to fire sal, which wasn’t right but shows the complications with him and just being human in general

Julmor

I love how this show manages to make theyre main characters extremly unlikable, only to somehow make you empatise and root for them in the next episode. Don Draper in particular, is giving me emotional whiplash on a regjlar basis.

Kara

@Mitchell: I quoted the part of the commentary where the writer and the director of the episode both say that Don has homophobic views (he believes the stereotype that gay men are highly promiscuous, sex freaks + degenerates). The writer describes it as "completely unfair", the director describes is as "complete injustice". He even mentions viewers trying to justify it: "I think it's consistent with Don. It's hard for people to see it that way." You can have a different interpretation of the work but the people making the show are making it as if Don does hold those views and imo (and for others) it's pretty clear Don means it when he spits "you people" at Sal, who is at the lowest point of his life, thinking he's confiding in a peer and a friend and instead gets a boss who doesn't fully believe him and won't stand up for him. "He only said homophobic things because he was frustrated" isn't a good argument. I think we all understand that Don was very frustrated and at a low point this episode, but if you're normally nice but when you get frustrated your homophobic beliefs bubble up into things you say, you are homophobic. "I'm not racist, I just say racist stuff when I'm stressed out" 😬 Even if Don didn't mean it (he did, the writer and director said he did) the end result is a gay man got discriminated against in a way that's unique to gay men. "Don would have treated Peggy differently because Sal is a gay man" also isn't a great argument lol, it sort of proves my point. Sal is being specifically discriminated against for being gay, and Don literally says he sorta thinks its a gay problem lol.

Mike

Of course he is being homophobic. He probably thinks all gay men are randomly hooking up with each other every chance they get. That's why his message to Sal in the premiere wasn't "love is love, I totally accept you" it was "limit your exposure". Don doesn't hate Sal for being gay, but he clearly has a homophobic bias against him in this situation.

Mike

@Kara interestingly enough, the show hasn't spent any time establishing whether Don is aware that Kurt is gay. The show has kind of back-burnered the character in general, but he did show up in a meeting with Don in this episode. I'm assuming that was intentional.

bondbond53

That's why I believe that if as a teenager one dislikes Mad Men then they need to watch it later into adulthood. It's such a realistic portrayal of human behaviour. Yes we often dislike these people and might think we're above it when we're young (after all these are our parents, granparents) but as we grow older we become all too familiar with these flaws that we ourselves have. Then our enjoyment of these characters is not in their big defining actions but in their small gestures, contemplations, impulses because that's where we feel seen. And then when a lovely, maybe bitter-sweet moment arises in their lives we can smile sheepishly as if to recognise these other moments of enlightenment or maybe mere comfort

bondbond53

There is absolutely no doubt Don is being homophobic in that scene and yes I completely understand that in those times it was a given no matter how okay Don previously seemed with Sal. Something that gives that away immediately, other than obviously *gestures at the whole scene*, is Don saying "You people". This is reminiscent of Betty telling Jimmy Barrett in episode 7 of season 2 "You people are ugly and crude" right after Jimmy exposes Don's affair with Bobbie to Betty. It's a loaded sentence and while she firstly refers to promiscuous, business, entertainment people she also subtly means it in an antisemitic manner.

bondbond53

Plenty of people nowadays seem to implement this rhetoric again. Nowadays mainly with transgender people. "Not yet". Then when? The answer is obviously never because let's be honest the only reason MLK's peaceful message had any standing is because Malcolm X was standing with a loaded rifle behind him. But then again it wasn't even peaceful enough because we all know how MLK ended up.

bondbond53

@Mike yes but Kurt is foreign and young, a different generation. The way he has positioned himself initially as an artistic breath of fresh air into the creative department at SC is in direct contrast with Sal – an Italian man their age, part of the boys.

bondbond53

Yup, Connie's a cowboy, a preacher – he takes, he does not ask. Connie wanted Don's whim and courage in this campaign. Maybe he was missing this side of himself seeing as he's achieved all that one can achieve on Earth while thinking all the time about his business. How this greed complies with Christianity and God beats me but there's a different discussion there about American Christianity as a whole. And maybe Don would've been able to take his request for the moon seriously, after all he's the one that went above his means and imagined a future for himself and the one preaching to Peggy to expand her mind and go beyond. But in this case I think his father complex played a role in making Don want to please him and get praise and in the end result in something good but predictable. I believe one can be truly innovative when one doesn't care about other's opinions. The two of them were a toxic relationship as the girls pointed out

Julien

The "if Don were homophobic, he would have fired Sal earlier" argument is very silly. Prejudice isn't that binary. People have varying degrees of tolerance. It's really not difficult to understand that Don thinks Sal is a degenerate but as long as that's kept out of the office, Don is fine by it. Except this time it was brought into the office.

Kev (edited)

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Patrick

‘That’s us’ lmao. I always hated this story for Sal, but it’s unfortunately realistic especially for the time. I think they write it so you hope Don will say the right thing but again he’s not the hero we want a lot of the time.

Nina

And MLK's peacefulness is vastly overstated in the first place because of the rampant whitewashing by conservatives, especially in his later years. And yes this rhetoric has never stopped and there's always an excuse: "Not now, there's a damn cheeto in the white house, we have more important things to deal with!" "Not now, there's an election coming up, leave it for later!" "Not now, we have to compromise so we can do things that are actually important!" "Not now, we just won an election, why aren't you content?" I'll keep it PG but there's no end to the vile things I'd like to say about status quo loving fools.

Julien

It's not remotely just conservatives who whitewashed MLK and turned this radical firebrand into a Disney character. It's the *entire* imperial establishment.

Julien

@Mike: I don't at all think that Don disbelieved Sal. I firmly believe that that's misreading of the scene. Don's reaction is simply that Sal doesn't have a moral leg to stand on. He is not even necessarily saying that Sal should have acquiesced to Lee. Rather, it's Sal's qualms aren't something worth standing up for. If it were "a good girl," Don might have done something. But Don isn't gonna stand up for someone he considers basically a degenerate. That was the meaning of that conversation.

Kara

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Kara

+1. In that scene Jimmy even replies: "What people? Comedians?", a joke about the antisemetic tone cuz he knew what she meant.

Kara

I first watched when I was 17 and I liked the show but I definitely didn't understand all the nuance. That's part of why it's such a rich rewatch. Watching at different ages, the show feels like it grows with you.

Truemeathead

Not sure if anyone mentioned it but Sal was in a park, probably the brambles in Central Park. According George Takei that was the spot for gay men in the 60’s to go hook up especially if you were closeted. He said he had many a liaison back in the 60’s during his Star Trek days.

Thomas Fahey

This show depicts every aspect of society in such granular detail it's astonishing.

Kara

Betty wrote henry "Does anyone read this?" and Henry replied "Not any more", meaning he asked his secretary to stop reading letters so they could send letters in private. I forgot they even sent each other letters, its very old school, like a Jane Austen novel courtship lol. "Not every day. Ha ha." betty with the text jokes, she should have been born in 1997, she has a poster's spirit. It's funny that Betty doesn't understand how affairs work because she never had one. She should ask Don for tips & tricks. It's easy to miss but Pete actually doesn't smoke at all, that's why Lee Garner Jr is forcing him to smoke for a "joke" (e.g he's an asshole). There's probably stuff you can read from this choice, maybe Pete believes the health concerns, it's a more modern attitude, it's definitely another piece in the "pete is a little boy" evidence pile ("I'm not allowed, it's bad for me, my mom said i cant"). Pete and Bert Cooper are two characters who specifically don't smoke, and Harry quit in S1 though I forgot if he stuck to it. Connie like all 'billionaires' is an asshole but I do find him interesting. He has the attitude a lot of poor working class people have when they accidentally become ludicrously successful and realize they're surrounded by sycophantic yes-men and born-rich dillweeds. Even his kids are spoiled from lack of struggle (its giving Succession), his granddaughter will be Paris Hilton, "famous for being rich + famous". He calls himself "King Midas", who turned everything he touched to gold. So he sees himself surrounded by all this wealth, ruining anything he touches, when all he wants is to do is drink shitty prohibition hooch and yap at someone who 'gets it'. He wants a friend but at that level, all his relationships are transactional including his with Don. Bonus thoughts: It's interesting that both Don and Henry have jobs that can reminds Betty of them in the newspaper (advertising and politics). I really like Don's Hilton ad, he tapped into things Hilton said in a deep way, but I legit think Hilton wanted a hotel on a moon lol. I like that Suzanne (teacher) isn't under any impressions, she straight up tells Don its stupid to cheat with someone in your life, in the same neighborhood.

Sebastian

evergreen quote unfortunately

My Toasty Toast

I wish Michael Gladis didn’t convince Bryan Bratt not to come back

Kara

It's 'The Ramble' in Central Park but yeah, I assume every big city has 1+ parks that were used for gay cruising/hookups. Hampstead Heath in London is famous for it.

Truemeathead

Yeah, I forgot that…George Takei called it the Brambles knowing it was wrong I think as an inside joke or something. Only park by me has a freaking pickleball court and no cover for hanky panky lol.

Kara

there are definitely brambles there 👀

Richard Welch

This is an odd defense of Don. He was absolutely being homophobic in that scene.

Sebastian

You're dipping into spoiler territory here, Mr. Toast

bondbond53

@Kara yeah me too. I knew this was my all timer show on my first watch but I think it is indicative that I disliked Betty and Pete at first. When I became older I became very endeared to them

Julmor

Same. I absolutly hated Pete when i watched the show 15 years ago. When i rewatch it now, i feel alot more empathy and pity towards him. I honestly think my hatred towards him, largely stemmed from the fact that his insecurities and constant need for validation, reminded me to much of myself at that point. Thats whats great about the show. The characters are extremly layered and realistic.

Kara

@Mike that's true. I know he wouldn't care but don is very observant and it's office gossip, so maybe he knows. but people don't often gossip with him (except roger before they had their friendship breakup) so maybe he doesn't. I could go either way really but Don definitely wouldn't care. I also agree with bond, a young hot european twink is very different from Sal, whose actor is older than Don so the character might be older or similar age. I'm certain he wouldn't care even if he knew though, he might even find it novel/interesting in a young artist the same way he finds peggy being a young woman novel and interesting. Freddy and Sal being older than Don does raise an interesting question: how did they feel about Don Draper's meteoric rise to creative director in SC? I bet that pissed a ton of people off lol. Some hot shit 30-year-old getting promoted twice. I feel like both Freddy and Sal would come around to it (Sal isnt competing for that job and Freddy probably understands that Don is a 'genius' and he's just good).

bietz

Make no mistake, Betty voted for Trump 3 times.

SmallWoodenDuck

Did the full reaction for 309 never get uploaded?

mundanelotus

Is the full reaction for this episode still not available? :(

kevin dale

7 months, still no full reaction for this...*shakes head* you people.