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Andor 1x04 Reaction (Patreon)

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2025-10-15 22:49:25
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2025-11-05 00:36:44
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My Toasty Toast

I’m so excited for reaction of the introduction of all these characters in this episode

BigJo H

Let's go!!! most anticipated episode for me

Śéáń

I know for sure Mon will be a favourite

ksg

I can't believe Richie was so fed up with Carmys BS that he travelled to a galaxy far far away to join a group of rogues.

HenryM

classic Richie

hman70

Big day for people who love women and Andor and women in Andor

Julmor

The downside of Andor is that it makes about 95% of the other Star Wars movies and shows pale in comparison. I get why Lola gets excited to watch the prequels after Andor, but honestly, the writing and dialogue in the prequels are so bad and cartoonish that it’s hard to believe they exist in the same universe as Andor. They often feel more like a mediocre Saturday morning cartoon for kids—just with extremely convoluted political plots layered on top.

Raphgod7

Apparently Jeremy Allen White is in Mando & Grogu👀

Julmor

Yeah. He plays Jabbas son. Jeremy Allen White playing a hutt gladiator was not something i expected.

Robert Dirk H.

I really want you to react to the Lord of the Rings trilogy. My brother wanted to watch it with me, and I almost died of boredom. After the first hour, I just started making stupid jokes because I didn't like the story, the dialogue or the pacing at all. So seeing Lola hype up every scene while Milena's body loses all will to live would be so damn funny for me to watch.

menofhorror

They are not as good but it is exaggerated of how bad it is. The general idea and overall plot composition and world building is great and hold up still despite the rather theater-like dialogue.

Raphgod7

Some episodes of the later seasons Clone War were great tho.

Myeh

Hoping that they become obsessed with Dedra

Julmor

Thats totally fair. And in retrospect, I can appreciate what Lucas tried to do with the prequals. I atleaat feel like he had a story he wanted to tell.. The Disney sequals, mostly just come of as soulless nostalgiabait in comparison .

Julmor

I believe you. Ive always wanted to watch Clone Wars, because ive heard great things. Its just felt like a pretty massive undertaking. But i need to get around to it one of these days.

Julmor

Same. Im also still waiting gor a Godfather 2 and Goodfdllas reaction. Theres alot of great ootions.

My Toasty Toast

The prequels are an amazing idea for a story with an important political dialogue behind it and the writing, direction, and execution of that story could not be worse if they tried. It’s such a shame of how good those three movies could have been

Raphgod7

@julmor I think you can find a list of "essential"episodes for Clone War online. That show really expanded Anakin and Ashoka's characters a lot imo. Definitely better than the prequels.

Sam

I love the first 3 episodes but man it’s so clear the show jumps up a level starting in episode 4! You can see they felt that too with how engaged they were with every scene! Definitely recommend you watch 5 and 6 back to back

Hollow

I thought it was funny you called Vel "smaller" than you thought she'd be. She played "the Waif" in Game of Thrones, the other girl at the House of Black & White/Faceless Men with Arya.

Raphgod7

The goat herself: --- , I don't even wanna drop the name, cuz it might consider spoiler 😮‍💨

Joshua Something

They will give Bix the “babygirl” honorific first, but Mon will not be far behind

My Toasty Toast

I love that the show wasn’t like “we’re going to steal this piece of sci-fi tech” or whatnot it was like “we’re stealing the payroll of the fascists.” Literally hitting where it hurts. The Empire can make millions of starpath units. The people working for the Empire won’t be able to pay rent, that’s going to hurt more

Sebastian

not a lore expert so perhaps someone can correct me but the empire has existed for ~15 years at this point. prior to that the galaxy was governed by the republic which was nominally a democracy but had corruption, wealth inequality, colonialism but wasn’t as outright fascist as the current empire. the republic was complicit in the birth of the empire.

Michael M

Yep! One of two Game of Thrones actors I recognized in this episode. The other is the boss of imperial security Major Partagaz who played Qyburn.

Sebastian

the concept of richie saying saw guerrera this ep is so strange and funny

Sebastian

i’d also add that for someone like cassian both the republic and empire were functionally similar in terms of the oppression he experienced on both kenari and ferrix. whereas with someone like senator mon mothma the curtain really got unveiled when the empire came and took away all the window dressing and began the erosion of civil liberties etc

SwampFox95

Love the reaction to the TIE fighter lol. On rewatch, the Aldhani arc might be my favorite, after a certain one in S2.

Hollow

Unfortunately back-to-back episodes also means like a 2 week gap afterward before they watch the next, so I'm torn on that.

Daniel Molina

The Tie Fighter screech is one of my favorite sounds in all of cinema, and this show did something i didnt think was possible, it made the sound TERRIFYING 😮‍💨

Bishey

I absolutely adore this arc. Can't even say it's the best one in the show because they are all amazing but definitely one of my favorites. You can feel the story expand massively going from episode 3 to 4. All the new characters are super interesting and nuanced.

My Toasty Toast

I don’t know if you were asking but here’s some quick non-spoiler answers to your questions around 38-40 minutes in. - The Empire is around 14-15 years old at the time of this episode. - Before the Empire was founded there was a Galactic Republic; Lola your interpretation of the US with the different states having autonomy but there being a governing federal body above it fits how the Republic worked. - The Republic eventually became the Empire by a single Senator and his political party and allies utilizing existing corruption and manipulating events to eventually install him as an Emperor. They did this by: (a) Fostering/gaslighting an external threat to have an excuse to over-militarize. (b) Getting rid of the ultimate counter-power (the Jedi Order). (c) Weaponizing fear and xenophobia to both centralize powers under one political office and excuse deportations of non-human species and needing “a firm hand” on other planets. (d) declare the end of the Republic and the advent of the Empire to the Senate. Quoting Natalie Portman’s character in the prequels “This is how Democracy dies. With thunderous applause.” I’m sorry if this was too long, I tried to keep it simple, thank you for reading if you did.

Mike

Genevieve O'Reilly, absolute legend

Mike

Perrin is such a great, instantly recognizable character. Rich and insulated enough to be totally unconcerned with anything real. Friends with people on both sides of the aisle and totally oblivious to the position that puts his wife in. He just wants to have fun and host parties, because even though he is *married to a senator*, he knows that politics don't affect him. You know that dipshit would be hobnobbing around at Windsor Castle with King Charles and Trump and Sam Altman. Post-show discussion touched on how expertly the show suffuses the story with little details that slowly build up your anger at the Empire. If that detail about forcing the Dhanis out of their homeland doesn't get you, or the incidental mention of cutting off shipping lanes to starve Ghormans doesn't make an impression, or the underlying idea that they are drafting 16yos out of prison to be soldiers doesn't land, well, something else will. I guess this is "telling" instead of "showing", but it's such carefully-drawn world-building that it feels both invisible (from an expositional standpoint) and infuriating (from a rhetorical storytelling standpoint). The show is good, is what I'm saying.

david p

Three* (unless it was a scene in ep3) because Karn’s boss at Pre-mor is Lord Royce of the Vale

Mike

That's also Rupert Vansittart (Bronze Yohn Royce from Thrones) playing the "But I've had nothing to do with this!" head corporate officer on Morlana One.

Mike

I appreciate that they had to focus on Cassian and Ferrix for the first arc, but the way the story cracks wide open in this one is so thrilling. The crew on Aldhani; politics on Coruscant; Dedra, Partagaz and the ISB... Really excited for what's to come.

Berezant

This arc is amazing. Luthen getting into character, Mon's husband earnestly saying "Must everything be sad and boring?", Partagaz saying "that's why we're bringing in officers like you"... there's a lot being said but even more being implied. Aldhani is shot in Scotland, and funny thing about Scotland, something called the Highland Clearances started there in the second half of the 18th century. Scottish clans were pushed from farming/shepherding to do factory work in the lowlands. The landlords earned more money replacing people with sheep, so they burned down homes (the Sutherland fires lasted 6 days) or paid people to emigrate. As clans were essential to the social fabric of Highlanders, the move was devastating to gaelic culture and way of life. A completely accidental side-effect for the English, as everyone can be certain. History is full of normal and cool events.

Jesse S

Watching yall finally react to Andor is a dream come true. Things are about to heat up 🔥🔥🔥

Śéáń

This is an excellent and concise summary

Kara

If Mon Mothma have been serving in the senate for longer than ~15 years then she's been a politician for the entire length of the empire + seen it rise from the previous Republic to what it is now (obviously I know how long she's been serving, I'm just using show-only information).

Kara

Literally right now, during the US government shutdown, the Trump administration is illegally appropriating funds (without congressional approval) to pay federal law enforcement. If the money is disrupted, everything is disrupted.

Kara

Purpose, cousin.

Kara

mommy mothma is certified Galaxy Mother

Kara

Time to take a break from Mad Men's bad husbands and office sexism by watching the scifi Star Wars show, where there won't be any of that! ...wait [deleted] It's open to interpretation but when Dedra's (ISB officer woman) boss says "that's why we're bringing in officers like you" I read it as meaning women, or younger women. In the earlier scene there's only 1 older woman supervisor, the rest are all men. What if Peggy Olsen worked for the CIA? 💀 Milena's instinct was right - Aldhani was shot in Scotland. Vel's story about the Empire clearing out the Aldhani people who lived in the highlands is again inspired by real history. The Highland Clearances were a period of time where Scottish landowners forced their tenants off their land, moving to newer southern cities + different jobs to serve the newly industrialised Scotland and England.

My Toasty Toast

We have judges blocking it but they (trump admin) don’t care and are going ahead with it

Sam

Yea the first 3 are important especially for the finale, but I think ISB scenes are the most captivating for sure. Every word from Partigatz is gold

Hollow

You did misread that scene with Dedra and her superior Partagaz. It was not a sexist thing at all. The man is extremely competent. He said Dedra came in from "Enforcement" meaning she was basically a police officer, whereas the others are all management. They wanted more people like her who have experience "on the ground" and can offer different perspectives and experience. That's one of the things I like a lot about this series, its portrayal of the Empire as actually competent and not just a bunch of bumbling fools.

Kara

@Hollow: ROT-13: Ivn Gbal Tvyebl (fubj perngbe): "Lbh tb dhvgr n srj rcvfbqrf jurer guvf vf n jbzna jub’f svtugvat ure jnl hc va n znyr raivebazrag." Ivn Qravfr Tbhtu (npgerff): "Nf n jbzna, va gung jbeyq, sbe ure gb nqinapr va nal jnl, fur unf gb or yvxr 10 gvzrf orggre guna nalbar ryfr va gung ebbz." Vg'f n inyvq vagrecergngvba fhccbegrq ol gur grkg, gurl senzrq vg guvf jnl vagragvbanyyl.

Mike

The focus on the funding of the revolution is something I really appreciate, both in this plotline and with Mon Mothma. They can’t defeat the Empire on gumption alone. This shit costs money. The robbery stuff specifically is heavily indebted to Stalin’s activities in Tbilisi ahead of the Russian Revolution. (We can get into whether that is a flattering comparison — and how Gilroy doesn’t have a naive understanding of the monetary and moral costs of rebellion — in greater detail later.)

Berezant

I agree about Partagaz' comment to Dedra being open to interpretation. I definitely interpreted it as gendered, but it could also be read as classist. The other ISB officers definitely give an upper class vibe. Either way I think it would be a mistake to confuse a character like Partagaz acknowledging sexism or classism in an intelligence agency as the show pointing and laughing. I see it as the show deliberately highlighting the context a character like Dedra lives in and the pressure she's under.

Kara

@Berezant: yeah i agree, even being open to interpretation the writers are smart and knew what they were doing having a room full of (mostly) posh english men and this one new woman

JC

The crystal that Luthen gives Cassian is a kyber crystal which has significance in the lore for being kinda mystical and a power source for things like lightsabers, etc. The uprising against the Rakatan's Luthen mentions is ancient history, tens of thousands of years ago. I really like how Andor does it's easter eggs and background lore drops. They are naturally sprinkled throughout without there being some wink wink nod from the camera or character and they aren't necessary to understand anything about the story. Sometimes there might be some symbolism or connections to be made to the story and sometimes its just a cool thing they threw in. Also another great motivating/radicalizing line from Luthen to Cassian this ep. He's so cool "Wouldn't you rather give it all at once to something real, then carve off useless pieces till there's nothing left?"

SwampFox95

Well said, I just have to point out because I love the line too much, Padme says ‘liberty’ and not ‘democracy.’

ryany

It was absolutely a spoiler. You mention things that the creators have not made evident yet to any first time watchers and takes away the natural emotional impact of learning things within the flow of the story. More importantly it was clear they don’t know these things and the show is going to reveal it to them You gave information that are legitimate “show, don’t tell” plot points later in the season

Thomas Fahey

This show is intoxicating for anarchists such as you to watch.

Kara

I already deleted it so you're yelling at me for nothing ☹️ as a first time watcher many of us knew it, its in the text of the show, the official StarWars.com trivia page for the ep even said it. It was not considered a spoiler or a big reveal by the writers or Disney. If you know me at all you'd know I'd never intentionally spoil anything and I always endeavour to comment with information that's only available up to the current episode the girls have watched. That's what I did here but I didn't consider that it can still be a cool reveal if you figure it out yourself later, even though the show does tell you in 1x3. I already apologised for this and deleted but again, sorry!

Patrick

Incase someone else hasn’t mentioned it (I don’t want to scroll through 60 comments) but each episode does have different music. The same theme but different variations. I will say the main reason I watch LM is to re-appreciate how amazing some shows are, and Andor is a prime example of that. The guy playing Partagaz is so good at playing that specific character it’s crazy.

Clay F

Agree about the guy (Anton Lesser) playing Partagaz -- he nails that character. He also does a good job playing his character in the British "Endeavor" series (36 episodes) (IMDb 8.6, RT 90%, RT Audience 92%).

Yarrow

Without getting into my opinions on the quality of other Star Wars things, Andor is 100% my favorite Star Wars anything. It's P E A K