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Robert Dirk H.

Wow, early upload! Do you already have a time frame for Monster 43? I want to know if I'm able to watch it before or after the Halloween party :D

Petteri Ahlberg

”This is where the merriment arrives ” - Yuba from Star War.

LM Reactions

depends when you’re leaving for the halloween party

James Anthony

I don’t know why, but watching this heist I picture you two in vel and cinta’s place. There’s a first Star Wars cosplay for each of you 😅

Robert Dirk H.

Between 21:00 and 22:30 (Western European Time) so 22:00 - 23:30 in your timezone, we are probably back between 3 to 6 am :D

sand_fl

Completely forgot it was Andor day, what a nice surprise

JC

One thing I love about the writing is the repeated lines that come back throughout the series and movie. “Climb” comes back a bunch. “Who else knows?” Many characters will reference “wasting time”. Adds an elegant continuity to everything. The Eye might be the most visually stunning piece of Star Wars media. The shot of the pilots getting in the TIE-fighters with The Eye in the background is gorgeous. RIP Nemik, Taramyn, Gorn. Not Skeen

NJ

Next episode is one of my favorites, can't wait!

Spilled Wine

So I think that was Corporal Gorn? you were talking about. He was the first one shot when the firefight began so unfortunately, no escaping for him as well. It's honestly a very fast cut, so it's easy to miss.

Milen Karabadzhakov

My, my this is early, before I go to sleep even, very nice :)

BigJo H

Yeah, I don’t think most saw the skeen betrayal coming. The eye of aldhani is one of the coolest thing I’ve seen in tv, it was beautiful. I felt like on top of what you said, skeen was a mirror to cassian to show him what he might become if he keeps going on his current path. I love this show so much.

SwampFox95

It’s easy to miss, but lieutenant Gorn was the first one of them who was shot. Even if it was for a short time, him, Taramyn, and Nemik were very well done and still leave an impact.

Brakthir

Love how locked in you two are.

Myeh

Fun fact that they were originally gonna have way more of the Dhanis, but covid restrictions meant that they cut back the amount of people, and then they worked that into the story, that the empire was deliberately guiding them away from their sacred valley and making it harder for them. Really good bit of storytelling. I also love when the imperial guy tries to get them to let the wife and son go, it's a nice bit of moral complexity to the scenario.

Sam

They are already AndorPilled!! Love to see it!!!

Nubile Reptile

Very, very far from the first person to catch that the most idealistic, socialist-coded rebel, Nemik, is literally crushed under the weight of Imperial capital.

Mike

Love this episode. It's funny: This is not an episode that is full of surprises, exactly. Skeen's double-cross, maybe, but even "let's just split the money" is not an unfamiliar trope in heist movies. Nemik dying, you could see that from a mile away. Ditto for expecting a few other casualties. And of course they ultimately get away with it. But the whole thing, even if it's trope-y, just *hums*. The villains are despicable (extreme Zone of Interest vibes from the Commandant and his family btw), the action beats are thrilling, the Eye vfx is breathtaking, and the breathless, ratcheting-up-the-tension pacing of the episode is perfectly done. (I love how, after we spent the past two episodes expanding the cast of characters on the show, we don't cut away from Aldhani for the whole heist, "Blackwater" style.) This is just an episode operating on the highest level across the board. I really like the first five episodes, but I was all-in after this one. And damn, Luthen's reaction at the end is an all-time moment. (I agree that you don't have to watch Star Wars to "get" Andor, but it was funny to see them totally unfamiliar with the visual language of the tie fighter cockpit redshirts.)

Clay F

I like that Andor shot Skeen. Decisive. I like the way Cassian is decisive.

Daniel Molina

This is one of the best episodes of TV in recent memory….such a satisfying conclusion to the buildup in the last 2 episodes…..and it might not even be top 3 episode of the show 😬🔥

My Toasty Toast

I like that now any TIE pilot could secretly be Cinta

Kara

Lieutenant Gorn but yeah, it's blink or you miss it, he was the first one shot.

Raphgod7

Not in my top 3, but absolutely amazing. It just sets the standard for the overall quality of the show.

Kara

that's a couples cosplay babe 🙅🏻‍♀️ they should go as Nemik and the crate of imperial capital that crushed him

Kara

same tbh, and aldhani is my fav arc

NJ

I don't want to say anything spoilery, but 7 has at least two *chef's kiss* scenes. I could re-watch it a million times.

Kara

on rewatch there are a few neat signs / tiny details. Skeen is the person most concerned with Cassian, because he's projecting the mindset he has. when talking, cass says "[the team] always breaks at the weakest point" and skeen says "you're worried about the kids?" and cass looks at him like "that's not who im worried about no". when telling cass about his brother, cassian asks "what kind of farm?" and skeen does this slight pause / double take before saying "trees, pepper trees, centuries of em". when taramyn asks skeen to cover, skeen does initially cover him (and lands a hit) but quickly pulls back. and of course, he pleads with cassian to re-route to the emergency doctor so he has a chance to talk to cassian about splitting - Vel doesn't want to go to the doctor and her instinct is right, any stops are an opportunity for something like this to happen. None of these things on their own are massive tells etc, but they are all flags that in retrospect or on the rewatch make you think ah, yeah, the cogs could have been turning, skeen had one foot out the door. there's a lot of headcanon and interpretation but personally I think that shot in the vault where skeen is just gagged at the money before screaming LETS GOOO is the moment he chose to steal it. I think he's an opportunist rather than a long-game master schemer.

Kara

I never doubted, sometimes a show is feels built just for them and this is one of those shows.

Kara

my fav observation, i will never stop saying it

Daniel Molina

Just misses my top 3 as well….this show is just that good 😮‍💨

Dennis

I DEMAND ANOTHER EPISODE :)

hman70

The spirit of Bernard lives on in Neeman I agree Melina that Luthen's assistant Kleya does looks a lot like Leia, they're just similar looking people and they even gave the character a very similar sounding name. But from the timeline we know that Leia is about 14 years old and busy being a Princess on the planet Alderaan right now so we're not supposed to think it's the same character with a different actress. I wonder if I'm alone but my first impression of the Skeen "betrayal" was that he was testing Cassian and that bro shot him before he could say so. I get that there's a lot of little hints to him being selfish/cowardly in this arc but imo there are also signs of Skeen's fundamental humanity, he argued really hard to save Nemik for example. At first I thought what sent Cass over the edge to the point of shooting him was being lied to about the dead brother, but after watching this scene again I feel like the emotion started building up in his face when Skeen said Cass didn't care about anyone but himself. I think that hit close to home, I think Skeen's assessment would have been more correct in episode 1 where Cass is absolutely a man apart of a rebellion of one, just climbing over everyone around him to get out of the gutter. But now by episode 6 he's not quite that man anymore, he rejects that idea of himself metaphorically by literally killing the man who reminds him of that version of himself.

Kara

Amazing episode, amazing reaction! Sooo funny seeing you try to game out how you can binge the entire season in a weekly reaction format 💀 relatable In any other show this would have been the season 1 finale. Not here. I love the tiny details many of which the girls noticed, like Vel sending Cassian out first because Luthen told her "he's disposable", or Gorn having his flashlight ready. t's a show filled with love and a million tiny details. Every time I watch I'm shocked Andor exists inside Disney's Star Wars 💀 It's funny which small things are affected by your lack of universe knowledge, like the X-Wing ships that chase our guys are very iconic and as soon as you see them, you're expected to understand this is the enemy responding (like the military scrambling fighter jets). I'm not surprised but it's still impressive how well 99.99% of the show is translating that's good writing I guess. Our assumption that you 'don't need to know anything about star wars' is validated. Here we see Imperial officers call Indigenous people stupid, smelly alcoholics (a common racist remark in our world) but we are shown that the Dhani know exactly what's going on and are rebelling in their own ways - by keeping their traditions alive in the face of overwhelming odds. My "favourite" line is when the officer says "There's an Imperial viewing festival down in the lowlands, they'll have that moving forward". It's not enough for Empire to take their land and way of life, it also has to take their sacred traditions and turn them into monetized "safe" 'fun events for the family', there's probably overpriced snacks and Eye-themed games and a 15-credit VIP pass 😩 "Capital has the ability to subsume all critiques into itself. Even those who critique capital end up reinforcing it instead."

Kara

A lot of people coped by thinking it was a test but realistically, it makes no sense to test him then and there. Though I do choose to believe "I don't have a brother" means "My brother is dead and not relevant", though that's also cope 😅 He argues really hard to "save nemik" so they'd put the ship down in a quiet place where Skeen can talk to Cassian. I think Skeen likes Nemik, but he would have let him die or even killed him for 80 million credits. It's a brain-breaking amount of capital. We don't know for certain why Cass shot but I definitely agree he hated being compared to Skeen even though there's truth in it from what we know about Cassian in Arc 1. Ultimately Cassian isn't the same: he takes the money Luthen promised him and nothing else when he easily could have shot Vel, shot the Doctor and flew away with 80 million credits. Of course ethics aside, Cassian is also smart and understands that A) taking the deal with Skeen is a huge risk, nothing stopping him flying you to a third party then killing you and B) taking the credits on his own is basically a death sentence. There's nowhere you could go that would be safe, there's no way to launder or bank that amount. It's a ludicrous amount of money, even if he did want to steal it, he knows its suicide - from the imperials or from Luthen who knew everything about him.

Kara

I used to be really indecisive and still am in many respects but more and more I've trained myself, especially in work or high stakes situations, to just make the best decision you can. In my experience any decision is usually better than no decision, I love that about Cassian, he doesn't fuck around, he doesn't umm and err long enough for Skeen to get worried.

Kara

I would say it subverts some expectations, at least of the reactors I've seen watch it. Nemik is hugely death-coded to the point its like a meme but then makes it out of the shootout, only to be crushed by literal unsecured imperial capital unceremoniously. Gorn and Taramyn die in the shootout very abruptly, which some people have noted is surprising due to meta tropes about the sorts of characters who "die first". Skeen obviously has gotten every person I've seen watch the ep. The girls talk about it but Nemik making it to the doctor and then still dying is surprising. Small things: Cinta just walking away. No civilians getting hurt. The local Dhani not being involved (lots of people thought there was going to be an unfortunately timed Dhani rebellion). Otherwise agree with everything you're saying, regardless of how surprised you are it's just great television and keeps you in the tension even though you know the heist is gonna work and you know at least Cassian won't die.

Kara

you knooow the news media the next day was like "Evil Rebels Kidnap Child".

Jesse S

Pure chills when Luthen lets out his victory laugh at the end….🔥🔥🔥

Bishey

Definitely a Top 3 favorite episode for me. Incredibly tense, jaw dropping visuals and a good twist to end it off. They give you hope that Nemik might actually survive, but they even take that away at the end. He felt like Cassian needed his manifesto the most, so he wanted him to have it. It's both tragic and inspiring.

Jesse S

When it comes down to it Cassian KNOWS that money needs to get to the rebellion even if he has no interest in being apart of it

Patrick

Once a week is torture but let’s just drag this thing out as long as possible. I feel like this is the episode where everyone accepted that andor is a real show, not just a cash in live action cartoon. And thank god no one at Disney cut the show before season 2.

Julmor

Nemiks death is exactly why I love this show. Characters dont get heroic or meaningful deaths. They just die random, pointless ways possible. It makes the story feel way more realistic, while establishing that "noone is safe".

Kara

They couldn't if they wanted to, both seasons were commissioned at once. Thank god, because if they weren't the show absolutely would have been cancelled or forced to wrap up with 1 streaming movie.

Michael Rashid

You two understand the spirit of this show more than most!

hman70

@Jesse I don’t think Cassian cares that much at all at this point about the rebellion or believes that money is actually going to make any kind of difference in the galaxy. I think he’s much more personally motivated in this moment to prove to himself that he’s not the person Skeen is suggesting he is. He wants to be the kind of person who honors his word and pays his debts (unlike the person he was in episode 1) so killing Skeen represents killing that selfish part of himself

Eric

He was literally killed by capital.

Mike

No offence to Gilroy or the show, but the Black guys on the team getting killed immediately does not really feel like subverting the usual trope of who dies first lol

Kara

I've been trained by all the other Andor reactions I watched to expect less, it's been great.

Kara

@hman70: MIKE EHRMANTRAUT: You want to know why I didn't take that money? Is that what you're asking? JIMMY MCGILL: Yeah, that's what I'm asking. MIKE: Me, personally... I was hired to do a job. I did it. That's as far as it goes.

Kara

It's a subversion because many screenwriters would intentionally not kill the 2 Black characters in sequence to avoid that trope. Several reactors I watched (including POC folks, StruggleNation jumps to mind) were surprised they did that.

Brett Nelson

And in 1 action Luthen not only now has a vast reserve of money to fund his network he also got the empire angry enough that they'll lash out with death and destruction thus causing more normal people to join the rebellion which he can now fund with all the money he just got. I cant imagine how eurphoric he felt in that moment

My Toasty Toast

It’s dangerous and ignorant to say that I would have done things differently than the brilliant team of writers, but I might have handled Gorn differently.

Kara

think about how many wigs and rings he can buy holyyyyy

Mike

I really like the show (and especially this episode!) but I don't think we can give them credit for "subverting a trope" by... not subverting the trope

Berezant

RIP to the sweetest political theorist in the galaxy. He was too gentle for this world. This episode is an absolute banger no matter how many times I watch it. The tension building and cutting to the Dhani chants is masterful. This show has a lot of beautiful shots but this episode is packed with them. The scene I keep coming back to is the Skeen/Andor talk. The way Andor keeps the conversation going but his face looks so calculating (with a hint of sadness.) He acts so casual you don't even notice him adjusting his jacket to have a better draw with his gun. I know people feel different ways about this scene, but in my heart the moment Skeen says how much money is involved, Andor makes the decision to shoot him. It's just a question of making it happen after that. Absolutely brutal.

Kara

On rewatch that shift is super obvious, so good. He's one of the quickest draws in the galaxy for sure.

Raphgod7

It's also not a fully relaxed laugh. I love how he pulled back at the very end because with the fundings, the stakes are higher now. Now the Empire will take notices and try to respond.

Golandaz

What does Nemik say that is Socialist? You can easily read libertarian into Nemik.

Nubile Reptile

He never says anything explicitly socialist. As rebels in Star Wars are fond of doing, he speaks vaguely about 'freedom' and 'independence' and 'justice', to allow viewers to map their own politics onto him more easily. But he's a man writing a political manifesto about overthrowing the existing order in a rebel group while wearing a red budenovka, the cap worn in the Red Army during the Russian Revolution, all while being involved in a heist that was directly inspired by the 1907 Tiflis bank robbery that was planned and organized by Bolsheviks. I'm not saying he is a socialist, his politics are way too vague for that, just that there is a lot of socialist coding there for those who are looking.

Biberius Caldius Mero

I just think Cassian knows that if he took the deal with Skeen, there'd be nothing to stop Skeen from breaking the deal and killing him once they have the money. If he rejects Skeen and lets him live, he's a threat to Skeen and Skeen would probably want to kill him. So in the end, killing Skeen is the safest option for him, so he does it quickly to have the element of surprise against Skeen. I suspect this break of trust by Skeen then leads him to take his cut and get out of there. There would be no point for Skeen to test Cassian when the mission is already finished and all that's left to do is split the money.

Biberius Caldius Mero

Thinking about it some more, I guess she probably didn't and it would be unnecessary and going against what Vel said, but it's possible.

SwampFox95

Their depiction of the Empire can certainly bring out one’s violent side lol. I recommend large doses of Andor be followed by a helping of Vinland Saga.

Michael Hubbard

Agreed. As soon as Skeen brings this up, he has to die—there’s no way Andor can say no without Skeen trying to kill him, you can’t undo that offer. You also can’t assume Skeen wouldn’t double cross you for the other 40 million credits. So your only options are take the deal and try to kill him or ditch him later (risky) or do it right now.

Michael M

Lola's reaction at 17:12 lol. I reacted to this show's writing exactly like that at least 20 times over the course of the show.

Dante

This episode reminds me of episodes like The Expanse 2x5 and 3x6. Episodes that would be finales in 99% of other shows.

Kara

That's such a great pull! I think about that run of episodes from Expanse s2 to s3 constantly.

Sverrir_Thor

Oh man. The next arc is the best of s1 imo. Kino my beloved

Yarrow

Holy shit you're right, literally killed by capital