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Mad Men 6x05 Reaction (Patreon)

Published:
2026-02-08 00:47:07
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2026-03-26 00:14:34
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2026-06

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Mad Men 6x05

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Eric Viola

After the Ketchup pitch Ted comes into the bar and says the ad firm J Walter Thompson won Ketchup - so neither of them got it.

Taya

IT'S A SHAMEFUL SHAMEFUL DAY!!

Eric Viola

The "West 80s" (Upper West Side) where Abe would prefer to live is still Manhattan. A lot of Manhattan was always very diverse.

bondbond53

These kinds of episodes is when you realise why Don is up there with the Tony Sopranos and Walter Whites of TV. Just such a complicated and layered character

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JBK405

I did the thing where I typed out a big response and then closed the window by accident, losing everything. Dangit. I'll try to recapture my thoughts as best I can... Yes, Henry is definitely portrayed as the father to Don's three kids. Megan is a great step-mother (all things considered), but she is not a mother-figure to them. I don't even know how to classify Don's relationship to his kids. Neglectful father? Absolutely. Absentee father? Also yes. So absent that he can't even be called a father at all anymore? ...maybe. I find Roger's line absolutely fascinating, that he though MLK's ability to speak would save him. It's such a deep look into his own psyche. Is he talking about himself? Did he think that his own ability to charm people would "save" him, and now that illusion has been shattered? His entire career -- his whole LIFE -- has revolved around the ability to persuade and communicate and convince, and that's how he judged and perceived the people in the world around him. Peggy is definitely portrayed as being more "progressive" than a lot of the rest of the cast, but that's only grading on a curve. It was established several times earlier in the show that she was very ignorant of a lot of issues, and didn't understand that just because she has it hard as a woman doesn't mean she knows exactly what black people (and other disenfranchsied people) are going through. It's not a question of "misery poker", we don't need to determine who has it worse, it's just understanding that everybody is going through their own problems and recognizing that you cannnot place yourself in the same shoes. She's gotten better at that over the past few seasons, but she still has a ways to go before she catches up to the Progressive People even of this time.

Taya

I think you guys missed the meaning behind the Peggy & Abe scene. She was ELATED to hear him talk about raising kids. Perhaps the topic has never come up before so she wasn't sure where they stood. We already know she was disappointed that he didn't propose to her. So mentioning kids is confirmation that he is thinking about their future together.

Mike

Pete shouting down Harry is great, and I believe that he's truly shaken up by the assassination, but I love the detail of him stealing that word from Trudy's assessment of the situation. You can dig into the psychology and symbolism, but it's also just so true to life that you'll hear someone describe something then turn around and re-use the same phrase in another conversation.

Jamie (edited)

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2026-09-19 14:00 Vincent Kartheiser's portrayal of Pete is so fucking funny I don't understand how people can truly hate him. Did you know we were in the presence of a bona fide racist?!
2026-02-08 02:29

tilden katz

"They're canceling the Stanley Cup playoffs." Harry in a nutshell............who cares.

tilden katz

If you like any of dem 3 guys, you're perceived to have problems. Boys behaving badly, is cool for rock stars, not vanilla white guys in 'Murica.

Eric Viola

I think it's true that Don does go to movies as a distraction from how he's feeling but I think he's also goes there as a part of his job - he needs to keep up with the current state of the culture so the ads he writes stay present, relevant. But I think Bobby's point was more about that particular moment after the MLK assassination. That a lot of people welcome a distraction from horrific events. The fact that he says that to the black usher and we see his reaction let's us know what he's referring to. It was a very grown-up moment of self-awareness that really shocks Don which he admits to Megan later.

Richard Welch

One thing to point out about Henry in context of the 60s vs current times is he's a Republican / Conservative in the truest sense of the word, and maybe there is a disconnect because they're talking about American politics but if you actually listen to what Henry is saying about the protestors / rioters after MLK's death Henry also fails to understand the moment, calling them hoodlums and that sort of thing. I at least appreciate that Don can see the way Bobby tries to console the worker at the movie theatre and feel proud, and Don and Pete both have at least shown a more progressive POV regarding things compared to the rest of the cast. I think its important to keep in mind that we're watching a period piece and sort of judging things by modern standards. Don is far from a perfect person but this is a show full of complex characters, especially from a moral standpoint. The cheating is almost a cultural issue in this show since almost everyone does it. But I think the one thing thats important, especially with this show, is how one bad character trait or even a moment doesn't really define that character in general.

Kev

- I feel like everyone always misreads the Peggy and Abe scene and thinks it's showing a disconnect between them. There are obviously many signs of their disagreements, but that was not the reason for her reaction. Peggy is clearly smiling the entire scene from the moment that Abe mentions kids. It's when she thought he was proposing all over again, yes Peggy cares about her career and being independent but at the end of the day she was raised to want certain things and she is insecure when it comes to her love life, so a man expressing in any way that he wants a future with her is going to have her smitten. - Abe wasn't dismissing Peggy's talk of the apartment, he feels awkward talking about it or giving his input because she's the one paying for it due to making more money than him. - Milena saying she shipped Peggy with Stan since Season 3? Well, at the very least it's impressive considering Stan wasn't a character until S4... - I forgot how much I love the moment of Bobby saying he's scared for Henry. What a well-deserved gut punch to Don's self-esteem. - Also I love Betty's melodramatic "Why are you destroying this house!?". Still rocking the black hair. - The fact that you just know Don was considering going to D.C. because he was worried about Sylvia is so funny to me - Peggy's secretary wanting a hug and Peggy being like "um ok..." contrasted with Joan thinking Dawn wants a hug and Dawn being like "um ok..." lol! That Joan scene is in my top 5 Mad Men cringe/awkward scenes for sure, I have to look away nearly every time I watch it.

Kev
>>202403298

I don't think Henry doesn't understand the context, he says "they're gonna burn down the city" after the news breaks so he certainly doesn't think people are rioting for no reason. Also remember the two parties used to be a lot more similar (despite what a lot of Americans say currently about the two parties being the same and both serving corporate interests or whatever; politics has become increasingly divided to the point of living in two distinct realities).

Richard Welch

Thats the thing, no one was going to "burn down the city." Its the same sort of hysteria nonsense you get when people protest today, people are exercising their freedom to protest and others take that as an an inconvenience to their way of life because they aren't impacted and jump to the worst possible outcome. The 60s should have been a transformative period in America when, thanks to assassinations of MLK and JFK it became more of the same with special interests taking command of the messaging and focusing on things like Cuba and Russia and Iraq rather than dealing with the domestic issues like the rise of Jim Crow and Southern Democrats (which became Republicans) and Christian nationalism. The impact of corporate interests and dynasties have been a part of this country since the moment of its founding.

Biberius Caldius Mero

@tilden katz I wouldn't say there's a problem with liking these characters, they are great characters (fascinating to watch), it's a problem if you admire them for what they do or think they're rolemodels and good/great people.

Jude’s IFs

His line delivery makes me unable to truly stay angry at him for long he’s just too iconic

tilden katz

I don't know if admiration is what one feels when watching a Walter White, even as you 'root' for him. He is an evil man. He is also a schmuck turned animal, that some in the audience live vicariously through. How many people feel feeble at work, or invisible in a marriage, and fantasize about letting loose, and making their presence FELT? Walter filled that for some in the audience. How many impotent people don't wish they were as fearsome as gangsters, and could do away with those that they think slight them? It's wish fulfillment, and there is no admiration involved.

tilden katz

There were downpours in Memphis the entire week, as well as the night before MLK's murder, that almost flooded the city. He delivered his last speech, "Ive Been to the Mountaintop" that night.

PIG

Does LM have a chat forum under Patron? I cant' find one, specifically a spoiler material forum for members to chat that LM don't look into.

Jamie (edited)

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2026-09-19 14:00 There's an unsung hero in this episode and his name is Randall Walsh. Heya howa howa hoya
2026-02-08 18:32

Jamie
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Julien

Mad Men hugely chickened out with this episode. Much of white America *despised* MLK, and even in New York, the executives of a conservative Madison Ave firm (all of them Republicans) would not have reacted with consternation. Instead of handling this reality with honesty, they threw it all on Harry. I prefer Mad Men to the Sopranos (a frequent comparison and topic of convos) but in the handling of race, the Sopranos is infinitely superior and more unflinchingly honest. There has really never been anything like it.

Jamie
>>202448060

At the risk of drawing ire again, this is what we mean when we say this show is written through the lens of liberal optimism. Racial commentary is “not the point of Mad Men.” I get it by now. But THEY chose to center the episode around MLK and still say nothing. And yeah, the only quasi-realistic racist reaction (tepid as it was) falls on the character no one likes anyway. At least it gave Pete a great scene. If we take the expectations out of it and judge it purely on a standard Mad Men entertainment level, I like this episode. It has a lot of great character moments. Did they use MLK’s death as a plot device to set up these character moments while more or less ignoring the implications of the event itself? Well, yes.

on crip ...

what do you mean here, "I think its important to keep in mind that we're watching a period piece and sort of judging things by modern standards." ?

on crip ...

ty. this ep felt so gross

Josip

i really hope they watch six feet under

tilden katz

Why should you risk ire, when you are giving your genuine opinion, and not trying to be disingenuously provocative? MM is written by liberals for liberals. It most definitely has a huge liberal bent. That's ok, as long as the storyline never becomes preachy, at the expense of character development.

tilden katz

Im kinda new here, but why would Six Feet Under never win a poll with this crowd? Are they partial to action shows?

Julien

Re: Dead horses, much as I love the show, and have rewatched it since its initial run, I only really ever participated in the original discussions at the time (e.g., on TWOP). I haven’t been part of Mad Men forums or Reddit etc since then so I haven’t no idea how aspects of the show have been reevaluated or over-discussed since its run. For example, the Suitcase was immediately declared the best episode of the series and that consensus stayed through its run, I think. But now perhaps the consensus has changed but I wouldn’t know. I know how I felt about the MLK episode back then but I have no idea whether it was debated later online and how opinions have evolved. Etc

tilden katz

I definitely don't think people care about the political view of a program that they like. They just want to be entertained. At the end of the day, its irrelevant.

Dante

Except for, you know, when entire blocks of Minneapolis were quite literally burned down.

Scott

Sopranos may be more honest in its racism, but the portrayal of black characters in Sopranos was generally pretty bad.

Scott

I don't like Jujutsu Kaisen, but I'd be fine with them reacting to that show if it functioned as a subsidy for a Six Feet Under reaction 😎 BTW, have y'all seen Halt & Catch Fire? I'm currently almost done with season 3, and the quality keeps getting exponentially better. Too bad only 6 people have ever seen it.

Luis

Love HCT but Lola has already seen it unfortunately.

Luis

Entire blocks of Minneapolis were not actually burned down.

Luis

Lola's gonna have to give Milena some montage tips for her Peggy-Stan ship edit.

tilden katz

The Joan 'hug' was spot on, unintentionally hilarious, and the most believable moment of that episode.

tilden katz

Why have I never been aware of that show? If Fargo is on the next poll, in my estimation it should win comfortably. Billy Bob was transcendent.