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bondbond53

The full-body cringe I experience from Don and Sylvia, my God

Marzer

This is easily Don at his worst

Taya

The cringiest episode of Mad Men by far but I still love it

Wojo

At last they will love Ted the way I love Ted. Also my favorite episode in the show is next, I can't wait.

JBK405

I don't trust Bob Benson -- he's been trying way too hard from the very beginning -- but Joan's mom actually had a great point about that here: That mistrust doesn't undo what he did. Regardless of the ulterior motive, he helped Joan both in the area of immediate safety (getting her to the doctor) and also the social perceptions (disguising that they're leaving because she's unwell). Those were good actions, even if he only did them to protect his job. Other people who were trying to secure their own jobs could have taken advantage of this situation in much worse ways (Demanding that she protect his job in exchange for not exposing her frailty, or waiting for her to leave and then loudly saying "Well, since Joan's not here I guess I'LL do all of this work..."). Getting people coffee and smiling all the time are better ways for a person to be "manipulative" than other people could choose. I don't want to say that Ted is the kind of person that Don wants to be, because that's not quite right, but I think it's that Don wants to be the kind of guy who COULD be like Ted. As you noted, Don's creative style is very different than Ted's, and I think Don wishes he was confident enough in himself that he could feel comfortable with his people to let down his walls. He doesn't actually want to do that, but it hurts him that he knows that he couldn't do it even if he wanted to. He's still so desperate to Act Like Don, whereas Ted can just BE Ted.

Infode

She's ashamed. He's unsatisfied. Don's expression and mood remain the same across all the pivotal US political moments - he's disconnected from a society that he tries so hard to mimic and cater to both personally and professionally. Yet, because of this distance, it allows him (and characters who're outsiders like him i.e. Peggy) to observe society in an emotionally meaningful way that creates a connection/bond between their customers and their advertisement in a way that characters like Pete are unable to (due to their allegiance to this patriarchal and capitalistic society) despite the damage its quite clearly doing to their lives.

Chidi.

"You're a real prick you know that?" "Damn it Burt, you stole my goodbye." That's my favourite retort from Roger. :))

Taya

Same! I'm so excited

Taya

I don't think Sylvia's choice to end it came out of nowhere, It sounds like was deeply affected by her dream of Don dying and then her coming home to her husband. She was left alone in that hotel room for hours and hours with no entertainment so she had plenty of time to think about what they were doing and whether or not it was worth it. I don't think she was particularly turned on by the domination stuff either. It got old very fast. She probably had the thought "this is ridiculous, what am I doing? this needs to stop" A realization that most normal people would eventually come to (eg. Not Don)

Eric Viola

Sylvia also brings up her Catholic guilt when talking to Megan about her miscarriage. But I think Taya's comment below is correct that she had no problem with the affair generally but that the sadomasochistic relationship in this episode overstayed its welcome and she became embarrassed about it.

Virgil Hawkins

Suitcase will probably remain my favourite episode but the crash is something special

tilden katz

Don tossing aside Adam, is him at his worst.

mundanelotus

God Don is so pathetic and Ted is just a chad

Scott

This part of the show was not the best watch as it aired. What do you ruminate on for weeks or months...who is more pathetic? Lucky you can go right to the next ep.

Kev

The first time we see them together has Don saying he wants to stop doing it, the second time we see them together they're talking about their spouses and then arguing over why they're doing it, this episode Sylvia rejects at least half of Don's domination stuff. Her dream feels very real to me, and it ties together everything to do with the infidelity and how intertwined the couples are.

Kev

It wasn't just Sylvia's line to him on the phone, it was the fact that Ted upstaged Don in that partners meeting and he wanted to feel powerful.

Kev

Can't wait for one of my favorite episodes!

Kev

I guess it's more of a subtext thing that might not have come across culturally because in that scene they don't say "My Catholic/religious upbringing", but Megan refers to "Sister Eugenie" and they talk about how they were raised.

Kev

6x03 Megan: "You were raised the same way I was. I keep hearing Sister Eugenie in my head. I'm such a horrible person." Sylvia: "Because I was raised the same way, I would never even consider that my decision. And I think you [believe that], too, or you wouldn't feel this way." Like I said in another comment it's very subtextual, but the "way they were raised" was Catholic and the "decision" was the choice to terminate a pregnancy.

Infode

Also, like Jon Hamm directs and produces the show, Roger (John Slattery) has directed episodes including this one and ep. 10 ('A Tale of Two Cities') this season (from S4 onwards)

Kev (edited)

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2026-09-19 14:00 I don't think Don's face as he zones out listening to Megan is him feeling ashamed, I think it's him realizing he can't pretend that he is in a happy marriage. He wanted to follow Sylvia's lead and accept that the affair was over, go back to his spouse and make the most of it, but he couldn't play the part of the happy husband and realizes ultimately he feels empty.
2026-02-15 16:10

Jamie

Jon Hamm is a very good eye actor. I guess whoever played Don would have to be since there’s so often little else to go off of.

Jeff

he's just checked out

Kev

At a certain point the writers would definitely be thinking of the actors and their performance when writing the scripts. The pilot and first season is probably the only exception, but we get a very complete story there and the pilot especially is entirely about the mystery of Don and building up the penny drop at the end (fun fact, Don was originally thought of as blond, isn't that weird to imagine?)

Mike

I think the show does a really good job here of synching our interest in the domination stuff with Sylvia's interest in it. We can feel it getting old when Don goes back to the hotel and she's in the dress, just like she does. When comes back the third time, you're thinking, "oh more of this?" and there she is getting dressed to leave.

Mike

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