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Mad Men 6x08 Reaction (Patreon)

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2026-02-18 21:44:34
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2026-04-04 23:01:03
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Taya

MY FAVORITE EPISODE!! Masterpiece.

Jude’s IFs

This is such a wacky episode I love it. Also it really hammers in home how Sylvia represents Don’s mommy issues the most

Darrach

Don sprinting round the office chasing Ken and then sauntering into the lounge all casual is so funny

LM Reactions

i only noticed it was don while editing, i thought the new guys were chasing each other outside

Darrach

Don and Ken took speed and took it literally

Taya

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Patrick

I’ve seen a lot of discussion about mad men online the last few weeks, it seems like coincidentally lots of people are rewatching it. I’ve seen the whole thing front to back at least 4 times over the last decade and it’s always just as good every time.

Eric Viola

I remember watching this episode when it aired and being convinced for a moment that that lady was Don's actual mom lmao. Perfect way to show Sally doesn't know anything about her own Dad.

Taya

I had the same thought. When she said his name I was like "oh--wait. Maybe this IS a nanny from his past that we just haven't learned about yet!" It doesn't make sense under scrutiny but hey... it sounds believable enough. She's a great con woman.

Darrach

…now how would that work?

Taya

I first read "the child is the father of the man" in a Cormac McCarthy book (The Road I think). But it's originally from a Wordsworth poem. It means that an adult is fundamentally shaped by what they experienced in their childhood. Which is a very apt line in an episode such as this!

bondbond53

Yo I got butterflies when Stan kissed Peggy damn

Eric Viola

@Darrach Just cuz his past is such an enigma that who knows maybe someone else adopted him. It was just for a moment, when you think about it a bit longer and see her motivations, it's clear she wasn't.

Taya

So did Peggy! I don't like beards either but... I think I'd make an exception for Stan

bondbond53

Maybe I'm just down bad for Jay R. Ferguson but he looked damn hot with that tie around his forehead

Śéáń

It's 🕺 my 🕺 JOB! 🕺

Darrach

I meant jokingly cause of the race difference 😉

Wojo

Ken mixing up his mother and his first girlfriend feels so personal to Don that I honestly wonder if that line existed only in his head.

JBK405

The doctor who showed up is fictional, but is based on a very commmon practice of "doctors" in the '60s and '70s prescribing drugs-on-request to celebrities and businessmen. The most famous is probably Robert Freymann, a New York doctor known for dispensing vitamin B-12 shots laced with amphetamines. That concoction would give us the exact result we saw here. I love how everybodys' personality while on this shot is so close to Ginsberg's default personality. He is High Strung even when completely sober. I think Peggy storming out of the office and loudly announcing that she's leaving was her slamming the door on any romantic thoughts she might have let herself have about Stan. They had their real emotional moment together, Peggy was definitely thinking about it...and then Peggy saw him having sex with the grieving, teenage daughter of a co-worker who just passed away. So even if Peggy had been willing to pursue it, Stan ended it himself with his actions. Yes, Don was hiring a prostitute in the beginning of season four, and it was a very ugly, painful encounter where he asked her to degrade and punish him. I think we only saw it once, but their dialogue said it was an ongoing practice between them as Don spiralled out of control after he and Betty split up. We did see Stan's cousin before, I believe in season five. He was Stan's guest at that surprise party at Don's apartment. So we do have a face to go with the story that he died in Vietnam.

Eric Viola

This episode is just so, so great. On top of all of the drug-filled absurdity and the revelations about Don's past there are so many great conversation scenes. The phone call between Don and Sylvia. Peggy-Stan convo. The call with Sally and Don. It's perfect.

Infode

Don's flashbacks really do recontextualize his initial sexual interaction with Bobby in the car in S2. ALSO, Sally reading 'Rosemary's Baby' and the parallels of it throughout the episode 🤌🏼 Damn... 1960s Mitt Romney does it again 😭

Isaiah

Ahhh the Speed episode

Taya

I just have to say that the cinematography, editing and sound editing in this episode are OUTSTANDING. Best of the series imo. The scene where Don rests his head on Sylvia's door and the song gets louder and the singer's voice just washes over everything... perfect. With the lyrics "I must think of a way into your heart" right on point. You can FEEL his desperation and longing so viscerally. Also, when Don stops in the hallway and has a flashback, it's night time... when he comes to, it's day time. Only seconds/minutes after he talks to the group in the lounge, Wendy has teleported to his couch and now the sun's setting. It's so disorienting, they did such a good job making the audience feel like we're on drugs too

Taya

Random thought, this episode recontextualizes what we saw in the last one. Since Sylvia reminds Don of Aimee, perhaps the whole domination thing was a subconscious attempt to take power and control back after being violated and taken advantage of as a child... it also makes me think of the Bobbie Barrett scene in s2 where she ignores his no and keeps going. Then later we see him acting in a similarly dominant fashion with her

Mike

Don's flashback here reframes so much of what we've seen in previous episodes. His relationship with Bobbie, asking the prostitute to hit him, and (obviously) his broader attitudes toward sex. I'm not sure how long Weiner had this revelation in his back pocket, but it really fits.

Eric Viola

THE TIMBRE OF MY VOICE IS AS IMPORTANT AS THE CONTENT

Jeff

the book you're thinking of is blood meridian

Jamie

Don’s drugged up inspirational speech about nothing, parodying himself, is so funny. It reminds me of the speech he gives the office way back in 2x4, which ironically was after the actual plane crash. 2x4: “American Airlines is not about the past any more than America is. Ask not about Cuba. Ask not about the bomb. We're going to the moon. Throw everything out. There is no such thing as American history, only a frontier. That crash happened to somebody else. It's not about apologies for what happened. It's about those seven men in the room on Friday and what airline they are going to be running. Let's pretend we know what 1963 looks like.” Ken: “Jesus, Draper, make a decision.” 6x8: “I know you're all feeling the darkness here today. But there's no reason to give in. No matter what you've heard, this process will not take years. In my heart, I know we cannot be defeated because there is an answer that will open the door. There is a way around this system. This is a test of our patience and commitment. One great idea can win someone over!” Peggy: “That was very inspiring. Do you have any idea what the idea is?”

Kev
>>203516462

I love that moment. Every time it happens I want to close my eyes with Don, and I always hope the scene will go on for longer, and it always goes on for the perfect amount.

Jamie (edited)

Comment edits

2026-09-19 14:00 “I left the door open. It was my fault.” is one of those Mad Men-isms that can mean many things (so many “door” lines). I like their positive Don self-reflection interpretation because the sadder implication is that he thinks the rape was his fault. Not that 60s Don Draper would think of it as rape or anything like that. But he remembers how Abigail reacted.
2026-02-19 04:38

Kev
>>203527743

I also thought it could be that way. In a way he is blaming his child self but also trying to shift the blame away from another child, Sally. Even though the situations are different I do think there are parallels there.

Taya

Megan: "Sally seems so grown up but she's still just a kid" :(

Taya

@Erin, you're right. "All history present in that visage, the child the father of the man."

Mark M

There was a pretty important revelation in this episode that really changes how you think about the series as a whole - Henry's running for office.

Mike

It's a dead heat between this and the S5 finale reveal that Pete is president of the howdy doody circus army

Mike

The motif of a door w/r/t Don is especially far reaching. See also: the final moments of "The Suitcase", the S6 premiere "The Doorway", among others.

Kev

I don't care about the context, Lola said "this is my favorite episode" about The Crash. I am at peace. - I love how chaotic and disorienting this episode is. The sudden shifts in time, everyone wearing different outfits because it's the next day, the weird dialogue that almost makes sense but it doesn't quite because something's off about it. It becomes increasingly absurd and then the other shoe drops. - The revelation of the origin of Don's relationship with sex is devastating and makes this episode go from a fever dream to a nightmare. The fact that he realizes this and, in tandem with the audience, the allure of Sylvia which drives him to develop this whole pitch, not even about Chevy, just to win her back ("it may not even be with that person")... It's the puzzle piece that makes a lot of this season click and unearths all the darkness that's been there since the premiere. Up until now, even though the S5 premiere set it up, the affair's continued depiction may have seemed superfluous, too much of Don being Don, almost grotesque at this point. I have seen people say they feel like it does a disservice to Don because it's so pathetic, but this is what happens when someone has addiction and unhealthy coping mechanism and they don't actually deal with the underlying trauma. If the dysfunctional behavior continues, which it inevitably will if not addressed, of course it's going to become pathetic. As we saw last episode with the scenes in the hotel, it's just sleazy and gross, and this episode we see it brought to a boil until the truth comes out. - I love that "Grandma Ida" is able to get away with saying generic things to Sally about her parents -- handsome father, nagging mother -- and it passes like a predatory horoscope. You can feel Sally's frustration at the end when she tries to insist that she did attempt to be skeptical of Ida knowing Don, but "she had an answer for everything". How can you ask critical questions if you don't know the answers yourself? Megan puts it well, this season we have seen how grown up Sally seems, "but she's really still a kid". I've been thinking more analytically about the show this time around, but when I am truly immersed I find that call between Sally and Don to be the first time I feel like I can breathe. Yes, it's a little crushing, but it's also cathartic because it feels like we're in the light of day after being in a nightmare for so long. - "The Crash", to me, simply refers to Don passing out on the floor of his apartment after spending 72 hours awake in a meth-fuelled frenzy, and especially that shot of him awake in bed ruminating on his past and how he hasn't moved forward. It all built up and then came crashing down. But it's very cheeky how the first scene of the episode has a literal car crash. Poor Kenny. - You two (I never know when writing these comments whether to refer to LM in second or third person) very early picked up on the idea of Peggy being different to Don (though as we also see this season, she is very similar -- "I don't like change") with regards to emotionality. It was a burning question from S2, how much did she take Don's advice? It seemed to help rescue her out of a dark place, but how do these birds of a feather chart their flight paths as they forge their new lives? In this episode we her that her emotional philosophy does stand in contrast to Don's: "You have to let yourself feel it. You can't dampen it with drugs and sex. It won't get you through". Sadly, Stan does not take her advice. More disillusionment in Mad Men! Have I mentioned that the mystical sensual crystal girl floating from scene to scene in this episode is the daughter of a recently-deceased partner of this firm? It's so grim that I try to not even think about that aspect. Alas, the advice demonstrates more of Peggy's inner world. I have been looking forward to this episode and this season literally since the beginning of the show. It feels like an undiscovered gem because it's not considered one of the classics, but I genuinely could spend hours talking about it and unpeeling the layers it has. For such a pivotal character-centric episode to take place almost smack-dab in the middle of this season, a crescendo after scenes of drug-induced surrealism is darkly captivating. The Crash will always have a special place in my heart, maybe because, like Sylvia to Don, something about it haunts me deeply.