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Mad Men 7x03 Reaction (Patreon)

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Eric Viola

Houses in the west-80s in Manhattan where she lives were on the lower end price-wise in the 1960s and Peggy's making a six figure salary in today's dollars so it wouldn't have been too difficult for her to afford

Taya

To add on to that, it IS the same building she moved into with Abe. It's in a bad neighborhood and the building itself seems to be pretty dilapidated. So it's not like she bought a luxury apt building lol

Taya

I love that Lola immediately recognizes every meme lol.

Darrach

Stan is the Art Director. Lou is the Creative Director, Dons job. Art reports to Creative

Eric Viola

The partners meeting where they discuss what to do with Don is my favourite Roger scene of the entire show. He goes into that meeting fighting for Don outnumbered 3-to-1 and wins. I'll ever get tired of re-watching it. The "he's gone, anything else?" response when Cutler brings up Harry is the best. Of course it comes in the same episode that Roger doesn't tell a soul in the office that he asked Don to come in - such a Roger thing to do. John Slattery forever.

Jude’s IFs

No one could make me love Roger the way John slattery could they really nailed being able to get a guy who makes you really love the character

Jude’s IFs

I feel for Betty because she does love her kids but it’s hard raising kids when you’re a kid yourself who wasn’t ready to have them but you did because it was expected of you

JBK405

"He wants to fix it". You could have stopped the review after that one sentence, because you GOT IT. For the contract/buyout/getting-another-job question, Don currently has a non-compete contract as part of his partnership. He cannot work anywhere else even if he quits SC&P, but if he does quit they have to buy out his shares. That's why he was feeding ideas to Freddy Rumsen last episode, since he couldn't put his own name on the work. If he's fired by the other partners then the contract is terminated, so they have to buy him out AND he can get a job somewhere else. Since he has now agreed to these new terms, if he breaks these rules and is fired he will voluntarily give up his shares so the company doesn't have to buy him out. But he would also be able to get a new job somewhere else. The twist that, like Roger said, it would inherently be a demotion no matter how high his salary was, since he wouldn't be a Partner. I will say that Don was right to be surprised and angry at the reception he got walking through the door, because Roger SHOULD have spoken to all of the Partners over the weekend. Or if he couldn't reach them, he should have then called Don and postponed his return. Letting Don walk in cold was bad both personally and profesionally. Something I love in all of my media is what I call the "cold rejection". A quiet, methodical decision to end a relationship that doesn't have any yelling or screaming or loud crying. Because that's a rejection that STICKS. We see it with Megan here, where you can tell she's fighting for self-control but she tells him to leave and gives absolutely no bend when he resists. She's listened to what he said, she's realized the implications, and she saw there was only one possible outcome for her. She tells him it's over, and IT'S OVER. By the way, you are absolutely correct that you SHOULD NOT drink raw milk. You'll occasionally see raw milk advertised as being "natural" (i.e. healthier than pasteurized milk), but this is actively wrong and dangerous. There is absolutely no benefit to raw milk over pasteurized milk (Not even something small, like a 1% increase in vitamins or anything like that), and it is a host to bacteria. Where I live there are laws proposed every few years to allow the sale of raw milk, and if those laws passed my company would actually make money, and we still argue against them EVERY TIME because it's that dangerous. We testify in front of the local legislature and we always end with "If you pass this law, I will make money. Please do not pass this law." So far it's been defeated every time.

Eric Viola

I'm more on Milena's side when it comes to feeling for Don in this episode. Him trying to stick it out at the office the whole day and refusing to leave, it's hard not to sympathize with him. He's obviously done so much damage to people around him and we've seen Peggy clash with him before, but that was when their power dynamic was different. It always felt good when Peggy gave Don a piece of her mind when he was her boss. In this episode though, Peggy is demeaning to someone who was weaker than her and it felt more cruel than comeuppance.

Taya

Pretty sure raw milk is fine if it's straight from the utter. It becomes potentially harmful once it sits for any period of time which allows the bacteria to grow. Or at least that's what I always believed growing up on a farm idk. I drank a lot of it as a kid

Taya

Don & Megan's relationship is dying a slow death. She "broke up" with him but the phone call afterwards shows it's not quite over, they're still clinging on (or at least Don is trying to). We never got a big dramatic reveal about Sylvia. No screaming matches or throwing things. Just two people slowly drifting apart emotionally, and now physically. I don't even think Megan would be that devastated to learn about Sylvia now, it would just be one more disappointment to add to the list. She's tired. It's depressing but feels like a realistic portrayal of a failing relationship. It doesn't always end with a bang, sometimes it just slowly fizzles out with one or both parties occasionally making half-hearted attempts to revive it, but both knowing deep down that it's probably doomed.

Mahad Ali

One problem with the last two seasons of the show is that characters make nonsensical decisions simply to drive the plot. Don’s partnership shares are worth millions in this period and tens of millions today. They represent almost his entire net worth. Why would he agree to forfeit if he is fired? He could be fired for almost any reason and he would lose everything. Plus this would stand to become significantly wealthier if he were fired. Too often with this show. Plot drives character and not the other way around. Its why nobody at Sterling Cooper behaved appropriately when the Chevy folks shot Cosgrove in the eye. Its why Roger didn’t object when the partners voted on the offer Joan. Increasingly in the later seasons, plot drives character and not the other way around.

Eric Viola

I don't think Don really cares about money and therefore doesn't think about his partnership stake in that way. He only sees it as valuable at this point as a way to get back into the company. I also think he isn't taking the stipulations given to him very seriously. He's thinking in the end the company will need him and those stipulations won't matter.

Taya

We've seen how he is with money; he doesn't understand it.

Luis

Beat me to it @Taya

Mahad Ali

I think there is a difference between not being driven by money and not caring about money. Every flashback to Don’s childhood shows the horrific poverty and deprivations that Don had to endure. Anybody who goes through that would care about money. But more importantly Don understands leverage and incentives. There was an entire plot point in season 3 (?) about his refusal to sign a three year contract in order to maintain his leverage. Anybody who can be that strategic would know that the share-reassorbtion clause provides the rest of the partners with not only all of the leverage but also the wrong incentives. Because they will all become significantly wealthier if he is fired. I think if he or any normal person who got that offer would understand that this was a ruse to fire him without suffering a financial penalty. Quite frankly considering how competitive and prideful Don it would make much more sense for him to go to another agency and use his talent to out compete sterling cooper and show the partners in that room what they lost. But its the final season and that doesnt suit the shows plot so he does something that doesn’t make sense and is not consistent with the character from earlier in the show.

Josip

yo i know sinners is going to win the poll and i voted for OBAA cause its the best movie but PLEASE consider watching Hamnet anyway - its a masterpiece, Jessie Buckley sweeped every single award you can imagine this season and for reactions... man that ending id pay for a custom reaction lol

Eric Viola

Yes, but he's already a multi-millionaire. He's not going to be out on the street if he loses his partnership. And I think he accepts the deal with the stipulations *because* of how egotistical and prideful is. He thinks his brilliance and worth will eclipse any constraints the company puts on him.

Mahad Ali

I beg to differ, Don understands business and leverage. He often knows what clients business needs are before they do. He understands market share and scale. He helped oversee a startup and a merger. He is the same person who refused to sign a contract in order to maintain negotiating leverage. You can’t do all of these things if u don’t understand money.

Mike

Well, we've come a long way from Don refusing to sign a contract. The final season (if we're calling these episodes part of the final season) is always going to have callbacks to the start of the show -- Ken's carousel call-out, of course -- but I really like how Megan's agent calling Don mirrors Don calling Betty's therapist. Different circumstances, with Don on the receiving end of this call instead of initiating it, but a similar betrayal of trust that speaks to his continuing desire to know everything about his partner while they know next to nothing about him. That... isn't a great foundation for a relationship. For what it's worth, Don has been out of work for longer than two months. S6 ended on US Thanksgiving (end of November) and now it's already spring in New York. It has been closer to five months.

Taya

What's there to hate?

Mike

Imagine hating Meredith??

Mike

I'd say the opposite? Don understands what he's risking here and does it anyway, because he believes (rightly or wrongly, tbd) that he can play by the rules if he tries hard enough. His ability to do (or not do) that is what matters to the show. He's not making a nonsensical choice to drive plot; if anything, they are stretching the plausibility of the plot to accommodate his character arc.

Mike

It's feels very realistic that they've had several "break-up scenes" already, and somehow end up walking it back / refusing to take the final step out of inertia.

Mahad Ali

I think this was the strongest and most relatable part of the episode. The awkwardness and embarrassment for both Don and everybody else, all the variations in how people respond… some with genuine excitement, others with stilted pleasantries or barely hidden hostility. It was both uncomfortable and a treat to watch.

Mike

Raw milk is still unsafe straight from the cow. You (probably) aren't going to keel over and die, but there's still plenty of bacteria risk.

Johnny R

Besides buying the building Pegy also mentions in a previous episode that her real estate agent advised her to purchase in that neighborhood because the value would go up. The building is in the upper west side which at the time was a considered a bad part of NY but now it's the complete opposite. So her building would be worth a lot today.

Mike

Lol yeah Peggy has ditched her counter-culture boyfriend and is now on the bleeding edge of gentrifying the upper west side. That building would be worth millions today.

Sekraan

Boy is Peggy going to be wealthy in retirement though with the real estate appreciation that area undergoes.

Eric Viola

Betty asking "why don't they love me" after an entire day of Bobby just doting on her and hanging on her every word😭. He clearly adores you and after he did some dumb little kid move, you made him feel horrible about it - that's what ruined the day. BETTTTY💔

Biberius Caldius Mero

Not sure which boss Peggy would prefer between Lou and Don. She was happiest with Ted as her boss, but that wouldn't work anymore either... I'm curious who Ginsburg or Stan would prefer?

Eric Viola

Trivia: the movie that Don's watching at the beginning is called 'Model Shop' which is about a man in a failing relationship with an actress.

flighhyer

This is a piece of art focussed on characterizations. I don't understand this modern obsession of needing to be friends with or seeing yourself in a fictional character.

flighhyer

If you feel like adding some period drama after Mad Men is over, there are rather short series, but which would really fit the vibe of that time: Michael Sheen and Lizzy Caplan in a medical science drama called Masters of Sex.

Dante

Nonsense. There are perfectly safe and reasonable ways to consume raw milk. My family has been doing it for generations and never once had a problem

Juanma88

Roger did have a scene in the previous episode when he is talking to Lou and realizes that he misses Don

Julien

I don't share Scott's take but I will say that the show ended right on time. There are hints of running out of creative steam this season. Or rather, a sense that the characters have been taken as far as they could and it was time to let them go.

Julien

"Too often with this show. Plot drives character and not the other way around." - That's an absolutely crazy thing to say about Mad Men. But yes, as I have noted many times over the course of the show, some of the business stuff doesn't stand up to scrutiny (e.g., Shut the Door Have a Seat).

Taya

IMO the characters are much more unlikable in the first couple seasons. Everyone's a lot more abrasive and overtly sexist/racist, and we didn't know them as well. By this point in the show they feel like family, we've grown with them, etc. etc. so I just enjoy watching them more.

darthvader17

Don't think they could just fire Don and take his shares without due cause. He would take them to court. They would only fire him if he loses them business. Hence, the 'stipulations'.

Juanma88

Don and Roger have had a rocky friendship since season 1. I don't know why people expected them to be the best friends ever.

on crip ...

i don't care to hate them, but i don't wish them well but yeah i don't understand how ppl can like these (adult) characters either morally stagnant, if not worse, since the show started

on crip ...

mad men writers aren't infallible. many cases where people refuse to acknowledge mad men's imperfect writing

on crip ...

Certainly comeuppance of Don's actions towards Peggy before his leave. I don't see cruelty, more indifference. nowhere near the disparaging comments Don has said to Peggy over the years

Eric Viola

Nah she was definitely trying to be cruel, to put him down. I'll give you he's been cruel to her in the past, doesn't make what she says here not not cruel esp considering he's already got his comeuppance by this point, he'd been fired.

Clay F

+1 for Masters of Sex. Excellent series.

on crip ...

Don's firing was not punishment for maliciously interfering in Peggy's personal life, or his previous comments towards her. And presumably, he hasn't apologized in the interim either. Peggy has no reason to appease that man. "Well, I can't say that we miss you" is at worst a mildly curt manner of expressing rightful resentment. The wording highlights that the statement "we miss you" is false specifically because of her, and it considers that others do miss him (which is shown to be true throughout the episode) Then, the comment is really just "I personally don't miss you." She says this to communicate that whether he comes back or not, she has not forgotten, or forgiven, his actions. She does not wish to work with him. It's worth noting no one else is around to hear her as well. (I think) ultimately, reading cruelty into Peggy's statement is subjective. i can't contest how others read it, just expanding on why i find it hard to read it that way

Eric Viola

Actually, Cutler says "I hate what he did to Ted". Him embarrassing Ted and Peggy was definitely part of why he was fired (that and being late, not showing up, not communicating new business to the rest of the partners, and the Hershey's pitch). Getting fired was definitely comeuppance already. The point is he had already gotten his, he was weaker than her in that moment, and she was cruel. That doesn't absolve him being cruel to her in the past, but she was cruel.

on crip ...

hmm i still cannot see cruelty. let me ask in this way. i might come to understand ur pov Let's say Don was fired solely because of his actions towards Peggy. Then, he shows up out of the blue, apparently to be re-hired, effectively nullifying his comeuppance (itself essentially a paid vacation). In that moment, how could Peggy express her resentment, aversion towards working w/ him again, without crossing into cruelty? If a cold "I don't miss you" is too much, then what statement would be a centimeter away from being considered cruel? What's the worst thing she could say without being cruel?