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Attack on Titan 4x08 Reaction (Patreon)

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i don’t think i’ll ever get over this episode

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Comments

Melkor

Here we go. xD

ML9

pog

Hachi

I was waiting and waiting and waiting and WAITING FOR IT

Melkor

Aot killing off its comedic relief character that’s how you know that the story is getting dark.

Sergeant Jay

Rip Sasha you will be forever missed 😓

Sasuke-kun

Omg after those tweets of y’all, I’ve been dying to see this episode lol

Mati D.

F potato girl.

Niklas Bergwall

I almost dont want to watch this, such a tough episode

Mauro

The time has come

devan1

My poor F5 had a long day

Richard

41 second intro. Is this real life? 😂

Rich

yoooo lets go 😂😂😂😭

Mohammed Al Jamal

Honestly I'm a bit hesitated to watch it now because of the thumbnail..

Jonathan baez

Im not ready but we can cry together

Orange

Sasha... 💔

David Ramirez

too descriptive this thumbnail... we were like that :/

Emori

The second most painful part of this season for me. The 1st is yet to come. RIP OUR GIRL

Boooomzz

Oh boy, this is gonna be fun

Amaya

IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS EPISODE FOR SO LONG NOW TIME TO CRY WITH YOU GUYS

botchie

its here everyone.

Thomas

ah yes this episode

PS

worst episode to stop and go do something after

Amaya

rip my favorite girl ever :((

sanic
>>71509746

I think I know exactly which episode you mean and I wasn't ready back then and they won't be either.

Dendozy

Floch gang!

Quo

"I cant watch this further" I cant think of many examples of shows where the writing is so good that it just hurts to keep watching. This show is just a monster at how it puts audiences on the spot. And the placement of this episode is eerie. If the lessons from episode 2 to 5 had not been fully internalised, Isayama gives two more episodes where people are likely to cheer for the Paradis Eldians and then give their fans this. It's like he's just asking that specific section of the audience : "Still feel like cheering?" What a madman.

Ben Morales

RIP my personal favorite character!

Quo

This is the episode where the Gabi hate started, though the fact that she became hated speaks volumes about what a fantastic character she is.

狐火の夜

Ima be real, id 100% give gabi a real good kick or two right to the jaw piece for that too. And your tears arent enough to stop me 😈

Rinne
>>71510680

Potential SPOILERS!!! I get liking the character, he is well written and pretty driven. That being said Floch is also an arrogant shithead so why is there a "Floch gang"? :Dd

狐火の夜
>>71510680

Bro at least just call yourself a jeagerist, floch of all people is just a shitty twitter follower, no floch gang, eren gang.

szepi79

if Eren would have taken Reiner and Galliard (in human form) as you suggested, Marley would have been left with 1 titan, the Cart. Well... let's just say that is not the strongest of the titan shifters :D

Franz

Also in EP 4 you see Eren with a baseball. This was a hint at Erens and Zekes collaboration. There is only one person who could've given him the baseball after all. The pitcher himself. At this point you could have already known that zeke and eren met in Marley.

sand_fl

Can't watch today because I need to get up early tomorrow and I don't feel like crying right now. I can see by the thumbnail and all your tweets you did not have a good time with this episode and the next one... understandable to be fair. This season is heart-wrenching. I'll send love to Gabi for all the hate some of the viewers are going to give her.

Anonymous

Eren is the exactly the type of person who should NOT be involved in these affairs. He's impulsive, stubborn, angry, and extremely violent (probably the most violent in this show). He has killed people when he was a little kid and it has never bothered him. He's always been like this, and I'd wager he's always had some mental health issues. He's definitely not healthy in his mind. Reiner was exactly right when he said that Eren is the worst person to have the coordinate. He literally IS the most unstable and risky individual and that power SHOULD NOT be in his hands. He is a danger to himself and others because Eren's fragile psyche + unmeasurable Titan power = the worst possible combination out there. Literally, ANYONE but Eren would've been a better choice for the coordinate. God help Hange and Levi who have to deal with him.

Felipe

We came a long way to see a racist girl get all that screen time.

Spokoh
>>71509746

Took me a min to think of what you’re talking about but now I think I remember

AlanRedrew

People hating Gabi should really re-watch this season again, please

Nick

Milena and Lola only speak facts when talking abt Attack on Titan characters

Cas_nc12

I hated Gabby so much after this episode I eventually stopped after a while and understanding her, but the initial hate of someone killing Sasha was strong

Polygon

There's actually been quite a bit of evidence to foreshadow Zeke's betrayal. He's been sus since S3 part 2. His betrayal/the fact that he's up to something separate from the Marleyan agenda is quite glaring. 1. In S3 E17 he gets angry when the Scouts are charging him and thinks how tragic it is that they're repeating history. He then has to check himself and remind himself that he's not like his father Grisha, and that he has to try and enjoy things. 2. He tells Eren that he's going to come back and rescue him. This is the most glaring sign that Zeke isn't the character we thought he was. 3. In S4 E2, it's revealed that he's purposefully hidden the fact that he has royal blood from the Marleyan army/government. 4. In that same episode, he tips off the warriors that the Marleyan brass are listening in on their private meeting. Magath notices this and is concerned that Zeke made that remark. 5. In S4 E4, Eren is shown to have a baseball and a baseball glove. This is a clear indication that he's been in contact with Zeke, as Zeke is the only character in the show to have a connection to baseball. 6. In S4 E5 undercover Yelena sends him and only him away before leading Porco and Pieck to the pit trap. 7. Zeke is then absent for the entirety of Episode 6 and takes his sweet ass time getting to the battlefield even though he's the highly regarded War Chief. 8: In S4 E7 when Zeke calls out Levi, he tells him that "he's running out of time" before it cuts to Levi looking directly at a stopwatch, waiting for something. This is an obvious hint that the two are in cahoots. 9. Levi takes Zeke down with no resistance at all. This is more of a common sense thing as a viewer, but there's absolutely no way a character as major as Zeke was going to get killed like that. I'm sure there are many more, but this is all I've got off the top of my head.

PKS

Is there any other option for Eren ?

Melkor

Every single reaction channel on YouTube that I have seen have cheered on when Gabi and Falco were getting beat up after she shot Sasha except for you girls.

Melkor

Have you girls read the comments on episode 6 and 7 on patreon just wondering? A lot of good and informative comments there for once which you should read if you haven’t.

Melkor
>>71510680

I also love Floch but not because he is a nice character but because I think he is really entertaining to watch and well developed since he joined the show in s3 ep 11 or something I think.

My Toasty Toast

Even rewatching this I can’t hate Gabby because I’ve seen the same experience happen with Eren when he was young and I don’t think he would have done anything differently than she did

Melkor
>>71511342

Lmao that would have been hilarious they only had one titan left and it’s the bloody CART titan of all Titans. They would be screwed lol

Melkor

All of you Gabi haters you clearly don’t understand the show if you hate her. She saw everyone she loved be attacked and many killed just like Eren but the only difference is she is a trained soldier that can fight at that age and her first introduction to Sasha was when Sasha killed the gate guards that had been kind to her and many other eldians and were telling her to get out of there to safety and she then sees a girl on a roof shoot them. There is much deeper meaning to all of the things and I only wanted to mention that if Eren could have taken revenge in S1 he would have and she is no different except that she could take revenge. I just wished to explain that she is actually very justified in her actions even if we hate it. And this show has been trying to portray that it’s not as basic as good vs evil the world is just cruel.

SajonaraHitori
>>71511597

you should really re watch this season bc you didn't get the point Isayama was traying to make with her charachter.

joshua

call me a terrible person, but throwing her out the airship seemed a reasonable option

Melkor
>>71513244

You are ignorant of what the show is trying to portray and cover. Rewatch the show.

Hængeklumpen
>>71510680

Many image boards see Floch as great person. He is the successor to Erwin. He he commanded a Charge he charged with his Men. 100% loyalty, 100% Commitment, 100% follow through. the real q is how can you not like him? watch?v=3aOHK3vF3tE&ab_channel=EldianEmperor

bondbond53
>>71511597

No leave him be because it is proof that Isayama is showing that AoT may be a fictional show but that it doesn't stray far from reality at all where people are genuinely unable to emphasise. I mean that's why we still have wars

Pepperoni Pony .

The mangaka originally wanted to kill Sasha in season 2, when she was saving the young girl from the small titan eating her mother. His editor saw the proofs and begged him nonstop to not kill Sasha, as she was his favorite character. Once I learned that I always had a feeling that it might come up again if presented, but it didn't make it hurt any less even seeing it coming.

joshua
>>71513244

understand perfectly, just dont care, throw her out, she is a killer

FFme

I am tired of you two. Your emotional intelligence is terrifying

bondbond53

Gabi: 'I did not see it' Well Gabi haters you DID see it so if you wanna at least be smarter then the 'brainwashed girl' you despise then prove you can emphasise OR go on and prove Isayama's point which makes the story all the more beautiful and sad.

Hængeklumpen
>>71511737

Ikr, but surely you mean the show, everyone knows that Sasha was a annoying character with only 1 good episode.

Melkor
>>71510680

Now people are gonna jump on us who like Floch. Please don’t let us have our opinion I will never say someone’s opinion is wrong so please let us like him. :) Tho I like him for all the wrong reasons lol Entertaining to watch, kinda funny, great characters development and that’s my opinions and reasons for liking Floch tho I can see why many don’t but I won’t go into that since it’s spoiler territory. He definitely isn’t a coward tho so whatever you may think of him he isn’t a nobody or a coward or anything else of the sort.

Hængeklumpen
>>71510680

@Cloudy Manga spoiler: the same civs that Eren will kill later? That Eren have told What will happend to. s And when they literal scream about genociding you? how can you not want to throw them out. Gabi and Floch are both my 1st and 2 favorite characters

狐火の夜
>>71510946

You say that as if i said anything about killing her, i said nothing of the sort, and just wanting to kick her is far from flochs mentality, i hate that twitter kid. I understand why she feels that way, how she has no idea whats happening or what shes done or whats been done, but that doesnt excuse the fact that she killed sasha, because like conny said, she was special. To me.

FFme

I had to watch the same scene 3,4 times, then read 3,4 reviews to understand the character’s actions & motivations. But you catch everything from the first second, while crying.

FFme
>>71514447

And also, please Lola we need that 3 hour review of Eren’s character

makimama
>>71512656

She wanted to show the world that Eldians are good. Eren just wants to kill all the enemies. Also Gabi is much more skilled and doesn't get things screwed up multiple times unlike Eren. I'm not saying you're wrong, I just wanted to point out a few differences

sami

The fact that Sasha last word was meat which in Japanese pronounced (niku) is so mind blowing and it show how genius is isayama.

Polygon
>>71513244

Sure, then everyone else in the airship may as well just throw themselves out

makimama
>>71511737

I found nothing annoying about her. Maybe you just don't like funny, positive, kind people in general?

makimama
>>71511597

You came a long way without understanding her character, which can lead to evidence that you did not understand most of the other characters too, correct?

makimama
>>71510680

yo guys lets not type any spoiler even with warning. just go discuss it somewhere else. lmao

Melkor
>>71513244

By your Logic Sasha deserved what happened to her and Gabi is completely justified since Sasha killed people Gabi cared about so we might as well throw her out then too. After all Sasha was the aggressor here not Gabi and Gabi is just avenging those that have died by Sasha’s gun. This is all if I were to use your dumb logic

Ryan

It seems as far as reaction channels very few people ever realize why eren is laughing when conny says sashas last words. It’s a painful laugh, eren doesn’t think her death is funny, he’s laughing at the silliness that all his good friend thought about at her death was what she loved the most, and it both brings him pain and comfort to hear it. He isn’t crazy or a psycho here, he’s grieving in a way many people do: by finding a silver lining of comedy among the pain

makimama
>>71510946

You sound like you'd be a republican. Also sound like you'd be anti-vax and anti-mask. Also sound like you'd be pro-gun. I can keep going on my bingo card of how dumb and unlikeable a person could be.

Melkor

Please delete your comment it will give them expectations for future episodes

Hængeklumpen
>>71510680

"You sound like you'd be a republican. Also sound like you'd be anti-vax and anti-mask. Also sound like you'd be pro-gun. I can keep going on my bingo card of how dumb and unlikeable a person could be." yo guys lets not type politics even with warning. just go discuss it somewhere else. lmao

Hængeklumpen
>>71510946

people that have diffrent belief than me is dumb or evil. why yes my iq is 110 how did you know?

狐火の夜
>>71510946

Yes, that is my reaction, i definitely do lack the empathy but i still prefer to live in between these lines, its always much more....interesting to see how shell fare learning the truth the hard way now, but my condition is a good hard knuckle to....humble her down a bit. If anyone im more like levi i guess. Id kick the ever loving shit out of eren too.

Jonathan
>>71513909

Her comment there is actually pretty scary if you think about it for a second. I think Isayama is trying to make the point that, unless you were there and experience something yourself, i.e. "saw it", then it's much harder for certain things to really deeply impact you. So you might hear a story of some tragedy that someone went through, but compared to your own tragedy that you LIVED through, sometimes it doesn't matter if you technically "know" that it happened if you didn't "see" it happen. It's really cutting message about how humans only have so much capacity to share the grief of other people.

狐火の夜
>>71510946

Also idk what this bingo game is about but youve already missed, well, just about all of them. Im neither republican nor democrat, i despise all forms of one sided politics, i dont care about vaccines, just peoples rights to take them or not if they want, i do always wear a mask if needed, and...oh hey, bingo, i like guns. Yeah, thats about it. I simply lack the empathy to let her kill sasha and sit on our ship with us without at least one good ass beating, doesnt mean anything else so idk how you came up with the rest of that. And i also didnt say anyone else has to feel the same.

qwerty
>>71513918

Yeah no need for comments like this, they were spoiled that Gabi was going to do something bad by seemingly innocent comments saying "oh if you like Gabi, just you wait"

Robert H.
>>71509746

I think it's extremely hard to tell here what someone feels is more painful. I can think of at least 5 more moments that are still to come.

David Caine
>>71512394

Most reactors, yeah it's disappointing. There are maybe less than 5 that did not cheer for that, they are the most empathetic and understood the point of the story showing the killings and the cycle of violence. But the understanding itself is a journey, and not everyone can see the destination or goal from afar.

Ivan Alarcon

#GabiBestGirl People who couldn't empathize with gabi are the same ones that couldn't do it with Azula in ATLA

Robert H.
>>71510680

You can actually delete all 13 comments up to Dendozy. I've never seen so many spoilers here on Patreon.

David Caine
>>71512374

The King of the Walls renounced all war, and awaited retribution inside the walls and said that he would accept it when it came. That is suicide. And Eren was born into this world to live.

Hængeklumpen
>>71511737

she is a 1 note character. she allmost had depth, in season 2 but was dropped again. funny she only really got to be a good character when her death led to Kaya growth. i understand why she would have been killed of in season 2

Mike Kamuy

Wonderful reaction and discussion like always, but jeez yall really deserve some wholesome and cheerful Shows in the near future after all the pain/grief that AOT especially has caused. Healing shows that mend the Heart and soothe the Soul like Mob Psycho or Haikyuu would be great rehab after AOT

Odiodin
>>71510680

It appears THAT part of the fanbase has arrived. Was a matter of time really.

Jacob
>>71513918

Expectations like what? That horrible things will continue to happen? That's the one constant in this show. I didn't name any names or situations. Nobody who didn't already know future episodes could get anything from what I said beyond the obvious.

Robert H.
>>71510680

@Brian I actually thought we were rid of those. So it makes it really hard for us viewers to interact with them when almost every third comment is such a huge spoiler.

Jacob
>>71513918

The people making those comments about Gabi might as well have said she was gonna kill someone. I haven't said anything at all specific, just that more bad is coming. I get why you're worried about spoilers, we all want to enjoy these reactions, I just think you're more worried than is necessary or useful. But who knows, maybe I will delete my comment.

Tucci
>>71513244

How did you miss the part where Sasha is a killer too? And that they're all killers now? You are exactly the type of person they're trying to speak to through their incredible writing, but you aren't listening, lol.

makimama
>>71513918

Yeah, that's like saying there will be a big reveal in season 2 episode 6. Just delete pls..

狐火の夜
>>71510946

Also ive yet to reply to the first guy so ill just say, yes i understand the show pretty well, doesnt mean i have to be the angel they want me to be though. Im on realisms side. And levis. 🤷

makimama
>>71513244

By that logic you also deserve to be thrown out of the ship. How dumb and gullible can a person be? Smh

David Caine
>>71512656

Yeah, but they want to show that the Eldians are good by killing off all the bad Eldians in Paradis, and that means Eren and his friends and family. Eren wants to kill the enemies that would kill him first, like they did his mother, and he watched, so his mind and psychology was twisted beyond what it already was. That is why Gabi is not wrong either, Sasha did kill her friends, and her retribution pains the hell out of us. Genius writing and execution. Plus, Gabi is a child and product of propaganda. It is Marley manipulating the minds of the masses, of the common people, giving them all a scapegoat, using everyone for their own ambition and greed. It is divide and conquer, and most people have no chance to see through the ideologies, and everyone is set against each other to distract from the real enemies in power. A lot of parallels to the real world, and people really like to pick sides to live their comfortable lives both physically and psychologically.

Ken Drummer
>>71516295

Mike Kamuy that’s why they are now watching Death Note for some wholesome and cheerful content. 😂

REDRIOT
>>71513244

sasha and the crew are getting revenge for the hundreds of thousands dead innocent eldians caused by marley.

REDRIOT
>>71511737

i understand what the writer is trying to bring over but i still hate gabi bro. what can i say, jeagerists forever

makimama
>>71513244

REDRIOT, would you get revenge on your school bully by beating up his little sister?

Hængeklumpen
>>71511737

Jeagerist and Gabi are the same ideologi mate. Just a diffrent side. (except she is a race traitor)

MGU

Honestly the mini spoiler/speculation they had about Gabi killing one of our guys made the reaction better imo lmao. Most people find it very sudden and unexpected, but in your guys’ case it just made everything more tense

David Caine

As soon as Lola wanted to stop and pause the episode a couple of times even before Sasha getting shot, my heart broke knowing what was coming and knowing that here we really feel the emotions that the show is conveying. This is not just a cartoon, this feels real here because of how well it's done and written and acted.

Ken Drummer

I’m so sorry girls about your baby girl. 🥩😢

Alfredo Aranda

I like their reactions because they understand the depth of things and they are not like those who see in black and white, this is all a tragedy, in wars there are no winners or losers, they are all just victims.

NikolasO

Just keep watching, u guys gonna understand everything in the end.

Gigi

ugh i knew this episode would break u two </3. And your'e right gabi killing sasha after sasha killed her loved one is just. another example of the cycle of war. her death rlly is a turning point for the series specifically reflected in the attitudes of the characters. also it's so sad that mikasa was one of the more stoic characters but she rlly was sobbing and crying over sasha. a lot of mikasasha moments weren't animated, but they are pretty close and sasha was mikasa's only real gf in the scouts besides eren and armin. it's also canon that they were roommates so her loss is just so impactful on every character it's heartbreaking.

oysonsauce

Listen the the opening with subtitles and you will be shocked

Hachi

Kindly reminder girls, I'll just say it and leave, @Haengekulmpen pretty much all of this guy's comments include spoilers. If you see his name please either delete or ignore them completely.

Arimpact

"I'm so sad she didn't die on a full stomach", what a quote

Paris Hardy

“ Led by love. Those words are so poignant you have absolutely no idea.

Justin Sprouse

This season man, the other seasons don't hold a candle, just wild season.

Marcus Bae

Yooo Lola is lowkey the reaction GOAT. Always so impressive to see her break everything down. Theories and discussion were great as usual but my jaw dropped when she drew the parallels between Gabi's "I didn't see it" and Grisha's "I can't actually read this." "I know enough that this shouldn't be done to us." Well said. Appreciate you guys so much.

狐火の夜
>>71510946

yeah i mean youre the reasonable one, that was fine and i just be typing alot, but suddenly theres gotta be that one guy making the moral discussion into crap politics, which, isnt really how that works, they are different things XD i didnt exactly mean to make the post to have such a moral (especially political) debate either, started as just a shitpost

Melkor

Please delete your comment even that is implying something

狐火の夜
>>71510946

lastly, just to actually address the political drone my morals simply being less forgiving than yours doesnt make me political, dumb, or unlikeable just because you disagree. politcs being your immediate reactions and assumptions makes YOU the dumb political one, and yes, politically sensitive people are in fact quite unlikeable, so stop being so sensitive.

Mohammed Al Jamal
>>71517712

Exactly. I was surprised that Milena came to that conclusion in the last episode just from wondering why do people hate Gabi

Melkor

Please if you see this Lm reactions don’t read any of @Haengeklumpen’s comments literally all of them contain spoilers as another comment also said just delete his comments but don’t read them. literally all of his comments have some kind of spoiler

Sergeant Jay

And now they are going to blame Eren for sashas death, another burden to carry.

Daniel

If you guys like the opening you should check out Samuel Kim’s rendition/ cover he did of Boku no Sensou. It slaps

Erwin Smith

No words can describe how beautiful the writing in this season is. There is no right in this war for "peace. It's a common theme in this. Who is the enemy?

Quo

Question for everyone…does anyone recall a scene in this entire show thus far where Eren laughs out of happiness or because he genuinely finds something funny?

Erwin Smith

Also I loved Willy's take on peace. He is aware of the unfair prejudices towards his people. He is fully aware that the Eldians on the island aren't devils. It's not even a stretch to say he doesn't believe Eren would release the wall titans. However, his take is in order for peace Paradis must be destroyed. He believes that we will always be at conflict and we must unite toward a common enemy. It's sad yet beautiful.

Quo
>>71524711

That’s not the instance I am referring to. The Hannes laughter is a trauma response.

Kyogln

Love the reactions and discussions as always!

Rick Turpentine
>>71511597

Hey you better not be making jokes in here we take this anime seriously bro! looooool this comment section is a gold mine.

cherrybombs97

Thank you for being one of the few reactors that actually view the whole situation from both perspectives. Some fans hate Gabi's guts and call her annoying and blindly support all of Eren's actions, but somehow miss all the similarities that they share. Gabi is as annoying, stubborn and revenge driven as Eren is or was. I think the main theme of this season is the cycle of revenge, which is not really anime fans' (or any fans) favorite trope, because we know that the only way to stop it is to be the bigger person and "forgive", but people don't want to see that, they want action and violent heroics. It is more comfortable in shonen anime when the good guys are the heros and the bad guys are the villains, but AoT deals with the gray areas that make stories less idealistic and more complex.

Nyeisha Melvina Clark

Yea it always confuses me when people hate Gabi and wishes that she dies and yet praises Eren when they are literally cut from the same cloth, they are exactly the same, the character of Gabi serves to show us that history will always repeats itself if you refuse to learn from the past.

Mufid Lassissi
>>71512656

What did Eren get screwed up multiple times when he was young? All the times he was captured it was out of his hands against experienced people. No one ever tried to fricken capture Gabi so you there’s no knowing if she would ‘screw up’ . And she wanted to free the eldians by committing genocide stop trying to make her seem saintly

Albertan Motorcyclist

Can't wait for the Gabi haters to pour into the comment section. People's reaction to Gabi's character and her killing Sasha is a good litmus test for whether someone is actually absorbing the themes of the show and capable of trying to be nuanced and objective.

Anonymous
>>71513844

its refereshing. when this originally aired some reactors came out with dissing sashas character etc and some reactors just not even dissecting/deconstructing just what happened , not going in depth into things i thought should've mattered if payin close attention to the story/tale of isyama. full potato circle tho

Quo
>>71524711

apotatofanedits Yeah I agree, I have seen him look happy or encouraged but never seen him genuinely laugh. Not sure if this was conscious on the part of the writer but holy hell is that a haunting detail.

lasagnaman

@Haengekulmpen has lots of spoilers in all of their comments. Some are marked, some are not, but honestly I would say it's best to not read any of their comments and just delete.

Jacob
>>71529304

Perhaps a better litmus test is whether you hate her after having had sufficient time to reflect? I'm glad some people were able to see through to the heart of the issue right away, but I think for some people watching this show, and I was one, they're so attached to Sasha, it takes a couple of weeks to reconcile anger with understanding for Gabi.

Jacob

The show is definitely getting even darker with the events of this episode, it was for sure one of the heaviest in the season for me. It's not at all a spoiler to say, without any specifics or hints, that things are unfortunately going to get sadder, because anyone with any sense would have figured that out already four seasons into AoT. There's just no version of this story where everything is all uphill from this episode on and there are no more tearjerking ones. Isayama's not the kind of writer to just subvert our expectations for future episodes out of nowhere with a massive tonal shift.

David Sanchez
>>71512374

@Cloudy Can you name any option that is really effective in this case? I think it is very easy to be moralistic about it. As the girls said, at this point Tybur was going to declare war on them and they had no choice but to attack, so I see only three options in this case: attack, defend yourself until you are killed or give up the war. No type of "peaceful" negotiation with Marley was going to erase the centuries of prejudice and hatred towards them, and although it sounds very nihilistic, on many occasions you must observe the extremes to find a solution

Melkor

Please delete @Asylum comment without reading it he is trying to be smart and thinks he isn’t spoiling but he definitely is. I wrote a response under his comment asking to delete it. Just find my comment go up and don’t read his comment and delete it.

Anonymous
>>71509056

agreed but I beg to differ, sasha was more than a comic relief in isayamas tale of love of potatoes and meat in time of war

Quo

Also on Eren I will say this. The concept of being pro or anti X character is a dead concept in this show. But before we think that Eren jumped into this hot headedly, (I mean why would you possibly think that after episodes 3-5 of this season), do recall all the instances and I mean all, when everyone within the scouts viewed and weaponised him as a tool of war. Even without knowing reveal of what is going on inside Eren’s head : it’s pretty telling when you look at the gradual manner in which he crumbles as a person to the degree that he is ready to throw his life away when kidnapped by Rod Reiss, how he is prepared to not really care about if he gets injured during Titan experiments (3 x 11), he hardly seems to care at the reveal that he will die in 4-5 years. Eren Kruger’s words hit it best to Grisha, that Grisha’s sins are enough. That they have to keep moving forward until the price of their actions is paid. Reflect on that again and again, cause that is a torturous state of mind to be in. To live only to constantly pay off the responsibility others have put on you, and the weight you have put on yourself because of how you impacted the said others. It’s so damned fascinating because in almost every comic book/fantasy/shounen show I can remember. The theme for the hero is to keep moving forward and never give up, be the force of hope etc. This show decides not to be tone deaf, this show takes the never giving up trope and puts a more realistic spin on it. Because the shows typically idealise that no matter how messy the world is, your never give up attitude can win out, putting the onus on the character themselves. This one however squarely assesses what kind of changes can a person undergo if the world’s context is as abusive, and puts it through a gradual context. Most of the worlds even in other shows have been shown to be abusive to somewhat similar extents. Just that those horrifying contexts havent been fully portrayed in those said shows. Seeing Eren hurts so much because we have seen the journey. It’s heartbreaking and uncomfortable at the same time. After all Eren is the so called superman within the walls, and he has the grit and determination to shame anyone. Shows like to portray that you can win in an unjust world with grit and determination. This show is essentially saying that winning in an unjust world should not be the main focus. And thus we come to the mental state of mind that is Eren’s. Weary with grit, dragged down by his own determination and knowing full well that the rebellion against the world may not even change the world. The boy who sought freedom and agency so much is perhaps the least free character I have ever seen. P.S : he was never annoying. Im ready to die on that hill.

Quo
>>71524711

Yeah I have rewatched the show a few times and still havent spotted it. This show’s rewatch value is immense just in terms of how many scenes you can see in a new light after the information you receive further on. If you do, I’d be grateful but if we dont find any..holy shit.

Mohammed Al Jamal
>>71513244

All of the comments above is exactly what Isayama is telling us about our real world. Humans constantly fight, everyone thinks he is on the right side, everyone has a reason to justify his hatred to the other, and this has been going on since our existence. That's why they say history "repeats" itself.

Zurik23M

Thank you for these amazing reactions, girls. I am very pleased to see how you understand Gabi's actions. This girl is the most precious character for me along with Falco. These two, who have been brainwashed since childhood, deserve to be worried about and empathized with. I remember my emotions perfectly when I read the manga. I was insanely sorry for Sasha, but also insanely sorry for these children. When the crowd swooped on them and started beating them, I wanted to protect them and cover them up so that no one would touch them. For me, this is one of the most violent scenes in Attack on Titan. On emotional level. I look forward to your next reactions. Honestly, you're amazing girls. For Attack on Titan fans, it's a gift to have such wonderful people who love and understand your favorite anime as much as you do. So thank you so much again.

Vaan

This episode broke me. I'm glad to see we think so alike in these situations. How can someone really chose a team in this... I mean of course we have grown to love our characters from Paradis but you can't not feel for the poor children seeing their loved ones die and think that fighting back is insane.. It's just a terrible situation everyone's in and Sasha was unfortunately one of the casualties..

Anonymous
>>71530536

yep. think LMs also in the same page. also imo, thnk this show /story may have started shounen but has since evolved in the seasons after . s4 part 2 definite clear cut abandoning generic tropes for a shounen mc

xyz

Hello, is there a specific date when we can expect the ep 9 reaction? Thank you for this series

Daolord Badlands
>>71512394

Yeah, other than Lola and Milena the only reactors that I"ve seen that don't hate Gabi are Carson and Lindsay from BOLDcast, and Curtis from SpazBoysComedy. it's really rare to find a reaction channel that can actually see it from both sides.

EhrenJaeger96
>>71533730

Ep 9 will come on Friday in the late evening (european time). AoT reactions always Tuesday and Friday :)

Renato
>>71533730

Thank you, I'll keep that in mind I'm new in this platform

Daolord Badlands

Fun fact: Sasha was supposed to die in season 2 episode 2, titled "I'm Home". It's the episode where we get background on Sasha with her dad, and features her saving the little girl from the small Titan. The only reason Isayama decided to rewrite it so that she lived was because his Editors pleaded with him not to kill her off, since they loved her character so much. So from a storytelling perspective, Sasha has been on borrowed time since season 2.

Anonymous
>>71534536

And gladly so because Jean and Connie by themselves as a set of supporting characters from the same group would have been a bit dry especially considering they weren't utilised as much as characters in season 3.

Be Happy
>>71512394

Ikr! When you start cheering on adults beating the carp out of children(even trained warriors) then you don’t understand what Isayama wanted to say. It all come back to what Gross said to Grisha in S3ep20, people want violence, peace is cool but unfulfilling and God did I watch some morons calling a brain washed, angry grieving kid shameful names. As for reacors who didn’t cheer this horrible scene and were sad and horrified I saw SoS bros and Filmbuff .

Be Happy
>>71517712

@ Mohammed Al Jamal honestly I wasn’t surprised they connected the dots because our girls have an in depth emotional understanding of the show and the characters hence Milena starting to cry directly after Armin transformation because she knew what damage that will cause him emotionally and not only cheering like ´hey the colossal is here to kick you ass bitches’ . I looove when reactors see the underlines and subtilities of this amazing show. Salam ☺️

Be Happy
>>71521002

OMG yes!! It broke me when they say that and also made me happy that I m watching someone that UNDERSTANDS this freaking complex character which is not the case of most reactors. This show is gonna be painful for them to watch and also for us audience even manga readers.

Gian alarcon

They reacted as the author (Hajime Isayama) wanted it to happen, empathizing with those from Liberio and those from the island :'D Grande!! I understand them

David Caine
>>71512656

Yep, Gabi, Bernard, Reiner, they all wanted genocide first, because the people of the Walls, Eren and his mom, they did not have knowledge or fault of their supposed sins. Marley provoked that killing instinct inside Eren.

sand_fl

Just had the time to watch the reaction + discussion and as expected you did not disappointed. I knew you would be emotionally intelligent (not like MANY people/reactors) and would not hate Gabi. I mean, you guys answered to my tweet about it so I knew your opinion but still. There's too much hostility in the comment section and tbh I'm surprised some of the people actually enjoy the show when they are the example the show give about how violent and hostile people are. Anyway, despite how many of those people are in the comments I'm glad at least it gives you money lol you'll need it to pay the therapy

sand_fl
>>71543591

I always joke about how Isayama needs to pay my therapy bill but tbh it would be funny considering... from all the reasons I have to go to therapy it would be hilarious that a tragic show would be the reason that made me go back to therapy.

Savage Starlight
>>71533137

You're not choosing a team because it's a TV show. In real life, you definitely would choose a team since your friends and family would be on one side of the conflict and people who want to kill them on the other. Of course, I feel sorry for indoctrinated children whose lives have been nothing but hell. But once a war is inevitable I'd do everything I can to protect the people I love. You can acknowledge the moral ambiguity of the situation and emphasize with Gabi, but if this were a real conflict, you would have to pick a side regardless. Of course, the best option would be to prevent all of this mayhem in the first place. Unfortunately, our characters aren't granted this luxury. War is on the horizon and innocent people will die no matter what.

Savage Starlight
>>71527832

I agree with your point but there's a difference between hating Gabi's guts and finding her annoying. It's perfectly reasonable to find her annoying. She is fueled by a constant bloodlust to kill evil Eldians and acts as a mouthpiece for despicable propaganda. That's annoying. However, because I understand why she's behaving this way I don't hate her. She's a victim of childhood indoctrination. One can acknowledge the tragedy behind her character and still find her attitude quite annoying at times. In fact, it only gets worse in future episodes. But again, I don't hate her. Being born in Liberio under an authoritarian regime, she never had a chance.

Savage Starlight
>>71516080

I certainly empathize with Gabi but I sure as hell wouldn't call her "best girl". Same goes for Azula. I felt sorry for her but she had to be taken down regardless. She became a murdering psychopath because of her abusive upbringing. That's tragic but doesn't change anything about the reality of the situation: She is a danger for everyone around her and needs to be apprehended or killed asap. Gabi is terrifying as hell like indoctrinated child soldiers who kill indiscriminately tend to be. I could never hate Gabi for falling victim to the propaganda of an authoritarian regime but in the end, she is dangerous even to people who are innocent or try to help her. We're all hoping Gabi changes her ways, but until then she definitely isn't #BestGirl.

Savage Starlight
>>71512374

Well said. There's no easy solution to a conflict full of moral ambiguity. Eren is running out of time and Marly isn't backing down from its plan to annihilate every last Eldian on Paradis. Eren's actions are absolutely horrible, but to say he could've negotiated for peace with an authoritarian regime hell-bent on claiming their national resources and titan powers to conquer even more nations is tone-deaf. The entire world thinks Eldians are inherently evil, subhuman creatures that need to be oppressed or eradicated. Good luck finding a diplomatic solution especially if you only have a couple of years to live. Paradis is centuries behind Marly's military technology and probably outnumbered at least 100 to 1. Cloudy didn't name one convincing scenario in which violence could've been avoided.

Savage Starlight
>>71510946

Of course you had to bring politics into this. You're just as tribalistic as Floch. Why would being a republican automatically make you dislike a person?

Cation

The comments are exactly how AoT universe is right now. Everyone wants to defend someone while the others damns them. Isayama probably laughing and crying at the same time. Eren Kruger said it best: The only truth in this world is that there is no truth. Anyone can become a god or a devil. All it takes is for people to believe it.

john ross
>>71512374

@Cloudy The only other option is to commit sucide for the benefit of the entire world. Which is out of the question.

Ömer

This Episode is just pure Pain.

Anonymous

I really love JSC man ...

Jacob
>>71534536

You and I have very different definitions of "fun."

joshua
>>71513244

lets actually take this seriously for a moment, gabi is a genocidal lunatic. You may sympathize with her or understand why she is that way, but she is no different than a kid that grew up in the hitler youth and turned into a nazi. There is only one solution for dealing with genocidal lunatics, you kill them otherwise they commit genocide as gabi makes quite clear, she would kill all of them given the chance, you gain nothing by trying to redeem her but killing may save lives. The correct choice is easy, kill the nazi. Sasha and crew may kill, but they don't want to, they do it because they have to, there is a clear difference.

Yerko Diaz

you mentioned jean covering his ears for not to hear the screams, that reminds me that the colossal titan of armin has no ears to not be able to hear the screams of the people he kills, really sad

joshua
>>71513244

Why so butthurt friend it's just a TV show? Calm down get a massage, you taking this way too seriously

Anonymous
>>71553028

Isayama wants to inflcit pain to us audiences. chaos (worldviews and perspectives) is part of it.

Anonymous
>>71523032

yeah. I blamed floch after a long walk and talk with the imaginary spirits of dead anime characters.

DRnotz

jesus the theatrics lol

Anonymous
>>71538357

@Gian alarcon yess! Isayama did once say in an interview of wanting audience to feel pain. yep. audience reaction to the series have shown the best and worst each ones worldview and perspective. either as it shines through or brew spite to polarised sentiments derived from pain... cruelty. etc. while many go onboard go with floch mentality some work things out like falco, wanting to understand both sides rather than condemning himself or the other. ...... this episode shows how LM as reactors truly were so invested to the story and characters , not many have. true story go youtube and bandwagon reacts from when this ep came out so many emotionally disconnected reactors then....i dunno glad to see others revel , grovel, unravel, squawk , bask and comment about isayamas work. dude deserves more credit

MyNameIs

Feed Gabi to the dogs.

Aydyn

You can call "our" Eldians - "Walldians", to separate them from the Marley-Eldians (that's what many manga readers used to do on Reddit)

Jaya Norman

basically my cry channel now, thenks guys

Charlie Parker

Sashas death shook you guys so hard that your reaction to Zeke switching sides was the most anti-climatic one I've ever seen haha, you both took it for granted right away, RIP Sasha doe

Paska Kääpiö
>>71599326

Oh so be no better than that sick Marleyan general who fed Grisha's sister to dogs. Sounds great making sure the cycle of violence continues which the whole show is about Like Jean said: "Will throwing some kids out of the airship make the killing stop?" And he is right in questioning that, it won't. Floch who has more hatred in him was ready to throw them out if Jean said the word. Throw children out?? It will only attract revenge from other people later and provoke them to do smth even worse. And the cycle continues.

El hombre

I just remembered that Armin is actually the one who told eren that he has to throw away his humanity if he wants to fight monsters. What about Levi, who always pushed him to make the hardest call. I would say they’re the ones who created the monster.

PKS
>>71667593

agreed. Why the best comments always come late?

PKS
>>71553028

Nope. that pain we inflict on ourself. He is just mirroring it in a show, so we realize.

PKS
>>71599326

Or feed her memories that would help her understand the reality ?

El hombre

Last time I wrote a comment I accidentally spoiled them without realizing it. Since then I’m trying to be cautious, so I wait for their theory first

Sarah
>>71667593

This is a long response but it’s spoiler-free for where LM have reached; I made sure. 😊 I’ve thought about that a lot too, with both Armin and Levi, and I agree, except I’d add that Eren’s choices are still his own and he is still ultimately responsible for them. That being said, the most interesting thing about it is that when it comes down to it in S4, Armin doesn’t seem to think they should *actually* follow his own advice (ie “losing their own humanity to save humanity.” He and the other OG Scouts do seem to care about preserving at least some shred of their humanity if they can—ie they won’t kill kids, even when the kids are armed military members, and Armin wanted to negotiate with the world before Eren went AWOL, etc (there are other examples later in the season too). It makes me wonder, where’s the disconnect for him? Maybe he USED to think that they had to “become monsters to defeat monsters,” but when faced with the reality of what that entails, has realized he can’t make the moral compromises required to do so? Idk. It’s interesting. And I wonder if he (and Levi) feel guilty for how things have turned out, knowing that their advice is in part what got Eren where he is. (They probably do feel guilty.) Anyway, long rant sorry lol. Armin and Levi are my favorite characters 😂

augustuslxiii
>>71599326

I agree with Paska, now, but I was all on board with MyNamels right after the first time I saw Sasha shot.

Be Happy
>>71521205

Exactly ! I m always dumbfounded when I hear reactors talking trash about S4 and using the technical difficulties Mappa had to prove their point of view!! I mean , in S4 we are in the real vast world people. The subplot of humanity vs titans in Paradis is long finished and we ve got to face the struggles of each side. This fucking series is brilliant and the best is to come in part 2.

Be Happy
>>71523032

@apotatfanedits : this comment is hilarious man, i laughed out loud . Thank you for making my day 😁