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Attack on Titan 4x12 Reaction (Patreon)

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Comments

Melkor

I know what I may say now might make some of you think I’m really weird but Eren is such a badass in this episode even if I don’t agree with everything he does anymore he is such a freaking badass. That part where he escaped prison and unifies with Floch AWSOME

Irvin

Eren and his 8 pack have arrived 😁

Vaan

"I started seeing birds outside thinking wtf" I can't Lola... 😂

Unholy

Pieck yayyy my favorite char that isn't Mikasa

Jafeth Díaz

they're not ready for the next episode 😂

tom
>>72373215

Wait, I haven't watched yet - Do they think that's Mikasa at the end? Lmao even though you see Mikasa with the survey corps

tom
>>72373076

Do we really need to spam this under all their videos?

Unholy
>>72373215

No no I mean my favorite character that isn't Mikasa lol, I'll change my wording xD

tom
>>72373215

Oh no your wording was fine, I'm just dumb. And yeah I watched it and they knew it was Pieck thank GOD I've seen reactions where people legit don't recognize her!

Ibrahim

"How the turntables" love The Office reference!

Pkiu

Great reaction as always ! I wanted to share a fun fact here in case you two or some people in the comments wouldn’t know. Hajime Isayama (the Mangaka behind SNK) is a pretty big fan of Breaking Bad and even considers it a Masterpiece ! He also stated that falco’s character is directly inspired by Jesse Pinkman ! I thought about it since Milena brought up BB during the intro haha

Mati D.

Oh i can't wait for the full one, Chad Eren has entered the game.

Melkor

Marleyans vs Eldians vs Jaegerists. Lmao civil war on Paradise while Marley is preparing to attack. Marley is going to have it easy if things continue like this.

Mohammed Al Jamal

The remaining episodes are going to be a rollercoaster

Melkor

My opinion I think Erwin should have been chosen instead of Armin I think he could have come up with a solution to this problem and made sure it never comes to Eren going to Liberio and killing a bunch of people. I think Erwin would have possibly brought the fight to Marley but not in the way Eren did it. It’s very much speculative but I think he would have come up with a plan compared to Armin who can’t atm. And I mean specifically a plan on how to approach Marley and everything.

Haza

I cant remember if you guys ever talked about Falco's first words in the first episode of season 4...

Be Happy
>>72375160

Those are some of the most difficult things I ve watched in this show and we ve seen a looot already !!

mapo picker
>>72375289

Even thou Erwin at his best might be able to do that you need to consider his motivation. Erwin would become a shell after reaching his goal of seeing the basement. Even like that he wanted to stop fighting but his dream was the only thing keeping him going on.

Melkor
>>72375289

And what is to stop him from getting some new motivation and goal we can’t know. And he even without motivation would still be Erwin he has tons of experience and is brilliant at coming up with plans.

August Svarén
>>72375289

No Erwin would agree to kill everyone like eren is doing. He dident mind sacreficing all the scouts too win the fight with the beast titan so i dont think so

Globalist

I hope you guys consider Arcane as a replacement for AoT once it's over. It's only 9 episodes and is one of the best shows of the year

Melkor

I don’t know how to explain what counts as an empire etc so I’m just gonna share a video that explain it a bit. https://youtu.be/QwgHIvt4sNc The video might be a bit confusing for you idk. I’m knowledgeable in history but im lost on how to explain empires and countries etc. If someone can give an attempt to explain empires etc because Milena seemed a bit confused about it and if I understood correctly wondered what the difference between a normal country and empire is.

Sam

I think the military wanted to go to Historia as well just in case he goes there, not that Eren needs both her and Zeke, probably just a precaution to close off that possibility in case Eren couldnt get to Zeke

Sam

Saying this confirms its significant, Id delete this

Sarah
>>72375289

Maybe that's true, but Levi's choice wasn't really about who was strategically better to save. It was a decision as Erwin's friend to allow Erwin to rest rather than dragging him back and forcing him to become more and more of a "devil," which I do think he would have ended up happening. (Deleted my other comment bc it was too long)

Melkor
>>72373231

Oh yeah sry my bad I just didn’t want anyone else to write the real answer to that question.

sand_fl
>>72375822

They're doing the expanse afyer aot. They did a poll like a month ago and death note won and they started it after korra and they said the expanse would be after aot. They also said they'd probably would react to a short show so maybe they can do arcane idk

Melkor
>>72374679

Wins the war eh no the whole world is against ELDIA on Paradise now even if the marleyans fail here they can just try again later when the entire world joins them. As long as Eren doesn’t win against the other Eldians if he does then Marley is screwed.

mapo picker

Hearing their discussion I can think only about one thing: "MMGH"

Lullabymeyourstory

That's what i love the most about SNK, that it mostly describes how things work, how hatred cycles are made, without actually giving a "moral" or an answer to it like " oh just do this and it will work out just fine ". Because in reality, no one knows exaclty what it would takes for humanity to stand and be unified as one. No one found out how to live 100% peacefully with one another This scene where the crowd is shouting "devote your heart" is so powerful imo because it portrays how an idea, a concept can symbolize something to someone and something different to another. Especially when time passes by. Because at first this "motto" was used, years ago when the world was so black and white. Like they were the good humanity trying to survive and titans were the evil they had to defeat. It was a chant for freedom, courage and for everyone willing to put their life on the line for the sake of humanity. I feel like this chant still symbolizes that for those people, but it's just the context that is different. Now there are no more titans, but other humans who want them dead. So they have to defeat them as well in order to survive. In their mind, they are still fighting for freedom because they found out that titans were not the real threat for their existence. But Hange and the others feel like they are doing everything they can for the greater good of their people, just like the wall cult and the nobles thought they did back when they were in power i guess. It's just like Eren Krueger said " the same mistakes over and over again ". But it's just like in real life. We've seen a lot of social issues or combats through history that have been changed in the course of time. Because you can devote your heart in your lifetime to a cause, in the end you will die at some point, and the idea you fought for will be carried on by the next generation. And this next generation is going to have to deal with this in their own context and time. So obviously you won't keep the same message deep to the core because all it takes is one person to push your idea into another direction for it to be completely misundertood. I think this is what is happening here. Now the "devote your heart" chant is being used against the OG members of the survey corps, because the way they are handling the situation doesn't seem to fulfill the needs the people feel this era has. The intentions are the same though, being able to prevail against the outside enemy. It's crazy how just details and time can turn an idea upside down and change everything. As for their reactions, i can understand why they would act like that. They basically know that the rest of the world wants or at least wanted to erase them from the existence. I'm doing a parallel with the real world here, as someone living in France, i saw how people reacted back in 2015 when terrorists attacked Paris, and then Nice etc. Of course they were some people that were shocked but kinda distant about it, like they were just trying to get over it and not talk about it too much. But most people were full of hate and wanted the people who did that dead. And a lot of people didn't mind at all if our army went in their country as retribution, in fact they would somehow cheer for it, not in a flashy way of course, but they would be like "well they kinda asked for it" or "our deads deserve justice" something along those lines. I feel like the same happened with 9/11 and i'm pretty sure we can extend this list to every similar tragedy that happened. Like, right now i'm sitting on my couch so thinking about it is kinda easy for me, i'll always tell myself that i wouldn't think like they do and be more of an Armin myself. But the truth is, if tomorrow someone really close to me die in these circumstances, i really can't predict with certainty how i would react. Hence why i love SNK so much because the human psychology it portrays feels so realistic and on point to me.

Apathetic Prodigy

Getting ready for another absolute breakdown from Milena and Lola next two episodes. Lol

jweher

i love how this season begins questioning and criticizing the military too. they're withholding information from the public and losing their support because it's what the nobles did before them. losing the loyalty of their soldiers with their inaction, and going behind each others backs' to try and get rid of a person they used as a weapon for years, that the people and soldiers love/respect. it was inevitable this would end in a coup against them, they've handled everything horribly. not that eren made it easy for them, but still, they basically had no doable plan for years. also i always interpreted "new eldian empire" as something less ominous (at least from people other than floch lol), the word "new" gives the impression that it won't be like the oppressive previous one.

Globalist
>>72375822

Good to know. If they do squeeze in a short show I hope they go with Arcane instead of something like squid game

bondbond53

AoT is great but watching the first 3 seasons with the grand intros and 'Devote your hearts' one can, on a surface level, see the show as having nationalistic tendencies. But the twist they did in this episode on the 'Devote your hearts' chant really displays the show's awareness of how harmful it is to push these sort of things to the extreme until they fail to represent what they initially did.

Melkor
>>72376770

Couldn’t have put it better myself and same if something horrible happened I would think I would act like Armin but honestly I can’t predict either how I would act if someone close to me was murdered or something etc. I very well could act like Floch even if I don’t believe that is possible. Something that makes Floch much more understandable his character started out being a nobody who was put in to show how hardened our main characters have become halfway in s3 but then he had to go through a suicide charge against a ruthless enemy killing all his comrades this event shaped him as a person greatly. And then there is lastly his dislike towards lying which is why he might have decided to leak the information about Eren being detained as well for that reason that he thinks they should know as well as it ofc would make the public mad and cause instability. And he hated how he was kind of (tricked) into joining the surveys corps like all the other scouts who were killed by Zeke’s rocks in s3 also were.

AndreasZ

Thank you for understanding the irony that a lot of the members in a group called "Jeagerists" actually don't even have the same reasons/goals as Eren. The show made the difference pretty clear in the Eren-Reiner conversation from episode 5.

Melkor
>>72376900

Love that too with how they lost the trust of the people because they are acting very similarly to how the previous regime acted with lying etc.

Lullabymeyourstory
>>72376770

yeah and he was already in that kind of mood back in S3. Because when he carried Erwin's body to Livai, he was basically saying that he understood, in order to deafeat monsters you need a monster on your side, someone who can put aside his humanity and do the sacrifices that are needed in order to advance. To him and everyone else in the survey corps at this point, Erwin was that man. And then time went by and now Eren is carrying this role hence why he's so fired up at following his lead imo.

AndreasZ

Mikasa has had headaches periodically throughout the show. I don't remember all the specific moments but there was one in S1ep2 after Carla died and in S2ep8 when Eren got kidnapped. It could be an Ackerman thing but we haven't seen Levi or Kenny have them or mention something like that.

Deante
>>72375289

From a logical standpoint I agree, but from a character writing standpoint this would completely destroy Erwin's sacrifice, character conclusion and his whole character arc. The impact of his death, his speech and his sacrifice to choose the humanity instead of his selfish dream wouldn't be the same anymore if he was brought back.

Melkor
>>72376770

Exactly he has found another Erwin in Eren another Monster (demon) that will finish the fight. He has become radicalized and gotten more extreme views because of what he has experienced against the Beast titan. And all the lies going on everywhere and some other things all of it has basically led Floch to where he is now it has changed him majorly as a person. He started out as a nobody then he went though a major change after his suicide charge and now he has gotten very nationalistic views because of all of it. He wants Paradise over everyone else which from his perspective is very understandable.

Mohammed Al Jamal
>>72375289

I believe Erwin's character has not been fully expressed on this show, unlike Armin. We saw Erwin's brilliancy in war tactics and military, but we hardly experienced him in politics. Armin's character has been strongly present in both. That's why regarding the events in the last 4 years, it's not easy to predict how Erwin would manage the situation, where it's all mostly politics. So it's a really hard decision whether it should've been Erwin or Armin. But to argue with your opinion, I want to point out 2 things: First of all, we know that Erwin was always ready to sacrifice people, while Armin would not hurt an ant. Ironically in season 4, we were all shocked that Armin the big throbbing heart killed thousands of people. Both of them did the same at the end because that was the needed mentality to "advance" in this cruel world. Erwin was already ahead in the game. That's one point for Erwin. Second of all, in season 3 episode 17, we were dealing with 2 things: Erwin dealing with the beast, and Armin dealing with the colossal. Regardless of each situation, Erwin sacrificed all the scouts "including himself" to defeat the beast, while Armin sacrificed himself only to defeat the colossal. That's one point for Armin Finally, Isayama made that comparison perfectly to show us how each of them react differently and what are the different outcomes of their decisions. My opinion is whether it was Erwin or Armin, nothing will change.

Anonymous

One more episode Lola might break out once again and may not survive with how she reacted to 4x11 with Gabi x Kaya (i'm sure they already recorded it)

Apathetic Prodigy

Yo, Lola is so ahead of her time in this show with her prediction discussions lol

Melkor

You are gonna realize so many clues from season 1 once part 2 for season 4 is released you have no idea. And even if you rewatch it after you have finished part one you will catch so many hints if you are good at noticing them you will see so many. The coffee machine Zeke, Reiner and Bertholdt used is another small hint in season 3 that there is a civilization much more developed. When Armin found it he thought it was some sort of black tee. You could have figured this out by looking at the area that you have seen inside and outside the walls the climate isn’t suitable to grow coffee beans. Same things with the Herring from season 2 since herring won’t be in cans first of all the eldians are so far back I doubt they could make cans and secondly Herring isn’t found anywhere and since they are on an island far from the sea which they have never been at they can’t have gotten Herring. So that is a clue that Marley exists and many other civilizations. These are examples but the previous seasons are full of hints.

Nick

Yes the jeagerists and some of the people on paradis want the “eldian empire” which is to rule over their enemies, but neither zeke nor eren has expressed that as their goal, zeke only mentioned the freedom for all eldians

AndreasZ
>>72372487

The coat moment was a bit too much lol but the rest was really amazing. Love the colors and music.

Camzeee

No reaction to shirtless Eren. Girls confirmed not simps :P

Lana

Hi girls, i love you so much that why i beg you to read the first pages of the first chapter (when Mikasa wakes up Eren under the tree). The first studio didn't animate it, but it's a very important element for part two and the ending. You have one of the best interpretation , comprehension and theory on aot so I really want to see what is your thoughs on this specific part

Mitzi C

¨Eren does not want revenge¨ I love that you came to that conclusion because that's exactly right. The conversation Eren has with Reiner in Liberio makes it clear that the reasons why he is moving forward do not necessarily have to do with seeking revenge (as is the case of Floch and the nationalists who are emerging in Paradis), he has already seen what is on the other side of the walls, and he sympathizes with those people ¨Inside the walls, beyond the sea, we are all the same¨. A special aspect of his character is that his actions may or may not explicitly reflect what he thinks or wants (his main motivations or the core of his most deep desires), and it is not possible to understand him until you have his POV. Eren's goals are very specific and go beyond what can be seen on the surface, the way he expresses himself and the core of his character remain throughout the whole show, and his journey is fascinating, heartbreaking, but fascinating.

AndreasZ
>>72381947

I'm very curious to see how MAPPA is gonna address the thing you are talking about since WIT didn't include it in the anime.

sand_fl
>>72380701

tbh i cannot remember them simping after anyone they always say things like "baby boy" but i don't recall them simpming

Apathetic Prodigy
>>72379832

Which prediction is that? Care to tell? She's said countless of predictions, I never pointed out anything specific.

sand_fl
>>72375822

@globalist i am actually hoping for midnight mass since they've reacted to both the haunting shows. i still have srcane on watchlist but the more shows they react to the better. and yes, in the poll they said they had already watched squid game, they really like south korean shows so they proably watched it when it came out.

Quo

I wanted the Shinzou Sasageyo chant to be overturned so badly ever since season 2. The fact that this man let the phrase get so popular by having it a focal point, right down to season 2 intro and then turned it on its head makes me so so happy. The sheer sheer discomfort. Isayama asking the audience, daring the audience to now utter Erwin’s name again. The way the writer makes the audience feel culpable is just brilliant.

Griffin Taylor
>>72373391

I don't think anybody is ever ready for the next 2, even if they have already seen them lol

Mohammed Al Jamal
>>72382553

I agree. That scene when Reiner said to Eren "Back then you told me: I'll make you guys suffer and die in the worst way possible. Isn't that why you came?", and Eren replied "Oh, I vaguely remember saying that". This indicates that Eren probably not seeking revenge.

Mango Maniac
>>72380701

Lol i think they still consider Eren as underage as they keep calling him their child

Aerielle Saguil

There are people who react and there are people who REACT and UNDERSTAND. It's one of the many reasons I support L&M. They watch a series for the first time and try to understand it and not be biased by characters among other things. This season feels like seeing the villain in the hero (Eren) and the hero in the villain (Reiner).

tom
>>72375289

In my opinion you're only saying that because of the current situation. I can perfectly imagine the same scenario playing out in an alternate reality, and so many people look at it and think "If only Armin was alive instead of Erwin, he would be able to get through to Eren and Eren wouldn't go to the dark side because he wouldn't have lost such a close friend"

Hershel

Hold up, can we talk about how beautiful milenas fit is today? God damn

Robert H.
>>72373076

Don't take offense, but I can't really see right now why they would watch these videos. It's basically just a montage of various scenes with Eren. I first thought that you would recommend a character analysis or a season analysis (seasons 1-3). I would have supported this (but only if the video is spoiler-free from Season 4 Part 2).

tom

Devote your hearts to saving humanity ---> Devote your hearts to killing humanity

tom

Regarding if Eren has a choice or not: Remember how his conversation with Reiner went (Summarizing the points that contribute to this) Eren: I'm like you, I have no choice other than doing this Reiner: I had a choice, we could have gone back after Marcel died but I pushed us forward Eren: I'm like you, I keep moving forward Eren is a very enigmatic and mysterious character but my personal take is that he does have a choice but he wanted emotional closure to reassure himself. I mean, think about it. There was no reason he had to have a talk with Reiner strategically. Remember, Yelena imprisoned Pieck and Porco (Cart and Jaw). Zeke and Eren who planned the whole thing, could have had Reiner also go with those two and trap all three of them, but instead Eren had Falco go and get Reiner. So he clearly wanted to talk to Reiner before doing this

Drake Rage

Why do they always assume the worst when it comes to Eren but they assume the best from Reiner and Bertholdt. They hated on Grisha, they doubted Eldian History (believed they did commit the horrors without any proof), and now they assume New Eldian Empire means they will attack other countries and kill innocent people... The facts are that Marley has already been said to be a warmongering country that will destroy itself from the wars. The anime has showed us that they have tried everything to avoid war, but Milena says "I don't think he does not have a choice." They mention it themselves that they don't have a choice but then still end up saying they do not agree with what Eren is doing. They look at Gabi and say they agree that Gabi has the right to "kill them all" after Eren's attack..... Welll..... what about Reiner and Bertholdt? The ones that killed 250,000+ people.... the ones that turned Paradise Island from caged birds to a living hell by breaking the walls. The show has already said they want to do something to prevent other countries from attacking Paradise, but Milena and Lola assume New Eldian Empire means committing atrocities... always assuming the worst from Paradise side, but assuming the best intentions from Marley... sigh.

Gigi

times mikasa has had headaches have been when carla got eaten, when she met louise the first time, after she woke up when eren got kidnapped by reiner in s2, when she saw armin's dead body and that scene last episode. also no zeke never said he wished to restore the eldian empire he just talked about freeing the eldian ppl.

REDRIOT
>>72390634

i don't understand people who actually agree with gabi but don't agree with eren. marley attacked eldia first and eren finished the job. had he not attacked them they would've launched full attack on marley with a million soldiers, battleship and airships. paradise would've been f***ed honestly. i don't get how people don't see that simple fact. there was no option to talk it out without fighting, marley had already decided on war.

Drake Rage
>>72390634

@Cloudy food shortage... created by Reiner, Bertholdt, and Annie. Also no... where are you getting this about creating an empire meaning making people suffer? The show has repeated the fact countless times about them just wanting to survive and be free. The rest of the world wants them dead.. Nobody knows what the real history even is but you are already assuming it is true and again assuming they want to commit atrocities... They are still desperately trying to find a way to stay alive but you have already assumed they "plan" to make an Eldian empire and do what the Marleyans said they have done for 2000 years... Almost sounds like the brainwashed Gabi, to me. Also, lets not forget that Marley already is what you fear Eldian Empire will be......... if they even manage to survive. Marley is a warmongering country that is probably hated by all the countries of the world. Marley first attacked Paradise for personal gains, then managed to convince the world to join together wipe out the Devils of Paradise once and for all.... Come on man, you have to be brainwashed like Gabi to side with them or think Eren is wrong. The facts still are that Paradise Island just wants to be left alone, and Eren is fighting because the World wants them dead.

Chris V

So excited for Savagery!

enchantertim
>>72372487

The jacket scene is one of the most iconic panels from the manga but they kinda overdid it in the anime and I feel like they couldn't animate it properly. It's one of the rare cases where Isayama's own illustration was better than the anime lol. It looked great in the first trailer though, I don't know why they changed that

Isaac
>>72375822

@sand_fl The Arcane suggestion is for the gap that's going to occur when they finish Part 1 on December 7. There are 9 "empty Attack on Titan days" from December 10 to Janurary 7 (Part 2 begins January 9) With Arcane having exactly 9 episodes, it seems like a satisfying fit since there are many poll winners on the horizon.

Yic17

Next episode is my favorite of S4 Part 1.

Ryan

you're not readddyyyyyyyyyy lol. its absolutely batshit from here until literally the end of the anime/manga lol. season 3B levels of crazy. enjoy!

tom
>>72374679

That was pretty much Pixis' point yeah, if they start a civil war they'll struggle with the international one

tom
>>72390696

Also when Annie ate Eren in S1 in the forest. It wasn't really translated well over to the anime

lasagnaman

In case you missed, the "special chair" of darius zackary is the poop feeding chair from S3 part 1 (uprising arc).

leetmanen

The scene from first episode, when eren wakes up under the three, has one important thing missing from the manga...

Caleb

Love that ending, so epic

ajoenpolvo

dear god can't wait for the two incoming episodes 😱😱😱

ajoenpolvo

the 'killing innocent people' always resonate in my mind, because at the end, killing other people whether innocent or not is a problem and defies etics. Considering Marleyan and Marleyan eldians's civilians do support war, do support the extermination of people on paradis. Is something similar to Death Note ethic dilemma. Could be picky but I've always feel that way towards the 'innocent kills' phrase. Well, both shows are into defiying our conceptions of ethics, of good and bad , breaking cycles of violence, etc.

PKS

Too many variables, I don't think there is any chance in this world that Eren and Zeke are going to meet. One of them might die before.

Maia Brodsky
>>72408917

But there are ethical distinctions between killing individuals who aren't posing you direct harm ('innocents'), killing other soldiers in a war, or killing someone in self defense. I think you're oversimplfying the issue by claiming that killing people is always wrong.

Robert H.

Let the Patreons decide for a moment if this counts as a spoiler. In the manga there was one sentence more when Eren woke up in episode 1. Here is the picture: https://imgur.com/a/F18HHwH

tom
>>72451214

You know the actual dream is different in the manga right? Thats why that line was cut in the anime

Robert H.
>>72451214

Yes, I know that. That's why there's a theory that the anime will end slightly differently. Still, I wonder now if this counts as a spoiler.

Korin
>>72451214

im hoping to god that happens dude, that would save my pain

Hannah N

The discussion for the next couple episodes is probably gonna be two hours long

MAY

someone else in this comment section said it already, but you guys should read the first few pages of the first Attack on Titan chapter. The anime did it a little differently than the manga

Melkor

You should read the first pages on the AOT manga to notice something that the show for some reason didn’t put in.

LJ

I just read the first chapter of the AOT manga for the first time and i will not be reading these comments anymore. Its pretty obvious that "that panel" and the sentence that was cut out (as well as their outfits) confirms a crucial theory. And i feel so underwhelmed rn. I would have much preferred to watch it play out in part 2, than to have it just handed to me on a paper plate. LM DEFINITELY SHOULD NOT READ IT

Brandon Miller
>>72546250

Yeah, I'm pretty confused why they would want them to see that. Especially when they specifically point it out, it becomes even more obvious.

Salacious B. Crumb
>>72546250

Why would you listen in the first place? These are all the people trying to push their annoying spoilery opinions: wAtch tHis, rEaD tHat, WAtcH dUb, sKip tHat. So pesky.

Robert H.
>>72451214

@Salacious In my opinion it is not a spoiler, but I was unsure if others might see it differently.

StrawHat

omggg pls DON'T read the first manga chapter it's basically a spoiler and you guys would put it together very quickly