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Black Sails 2x08 Reaction (Patreon)

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its very funny editing this now when we’re already on episode 3 of season 3 and listening to ourselves not have a clue what comes next

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sand_fl

3x03, lol you really could not stop binging uh? how was 2x10? amazing episode right?

cosmotron

Oh wow you’re so much further ahead than I thought! Can’t wait to see your reactions to the rest of the season.

TeaDrinker3000

And OH MY GOD THAT POST DESCRIPTION!!! GIRLS!!!!! I CAN'T WAAIIITTTTTT

cosmotron

“It’s like she’s some sort of clock that’s finally struck its chime and woken me from this dream I’ve been living.” (S2 spoilers only) Guvf yvar fher fgbbq bhg gb zr guvf gvzr ubyl fuvg. Zvenaqn naq pybpxf, V fjrne.

HenryM

Oh boy 3x3 already? This train ain't stopping lol

cosmotron

Very very interesting thing to notice: When Silver is giving his speech to the crew, telling the story of watching a man on the gallows…the name he gives the condemned man is “Solomon Little”. It’s not something you generally pick up on the first time through, but that name? Is actually one he used before. When he told Flint about growing up in an orphanage, he said that he learned how to do what would be needed with the crew because of a boy named “Solomon Little”. And in the scene in this episode Billy outright states that the story Silver is telling is something he heard from a different crewmember. So, how true was that first story even? Was there actually a Solomon Little at an orphanage who Silver knew? Hell, did he even grow up in an orphanage at all? “Can’t trust a goddamn thing that comes out of his mouth,” Billy says. The above shows that he’s more right than even he knows.

cosmotron

Anyway, S2 episode eight. I really love this episode. Abigail’s narration is wonderfully done, illustrating both her own journey and ours as the audience. Having gone from seeing the pirates as frightening, to seeing them as men. Really compelling stuff, and that’s just one part of the episode! The opening with Abigail’s dream is really interesting. Something that was pointed out on the Fathom’s Deep podcast is that Abigail in her dream hears the sounds of canonfire. But there was no canonfire when the event actually happened: the ship surrendered to Low without a fight and were then gunned down. So the canonfire she remembers is from Flint’s attack on the fort, and her brain has combined these events in some ways. Which makes sense, and is a neat detail! I already mentioned loving the narration, and that’s true right off. Also, there’s something about it that reminds me of a book I read as a kid, The True Confessions of Charlotte Doyle. Abigail gives me a similar vibe to Charlotte in that book, who also kept a journal. Anyway, I love how the show chooses to have her notice a particular pirate, one with a scar who appears frightening to her. Only to have her view on him shift as the episode goes on. “Even monsters such as these have no choice but to dance to the tune he plays for them.” This line reminds me of one back in the first season, when Flint was talking to Billy. He said “and never was there a Caesar who couldn’t sing the tune”. Great callback through the dialogue there, something this show excels at. I love this little conversation Flint and Miranda have after Abigail walks away. First, it’s hilarious that Flint senses she was writing about him, but after that it becomes much more melancholy. Abigail is a living representation of how much time has passed, and how much both Miranda and Flint have changed. If you think about it, both of them changed their last names while keeping their first names. Miranda may not have become a pirate, but “Mrs. Barlow” was as much of a new identity for her as Flint was for James. Her words about how her old self wouldn’t recognize her, and then Flint so gently taking her hand saying that he still sees that old version of herself in her? It’s so sweet. As is her assuring him that she ‘recognizes’ him as well. You can really see how bringing everything with Thomas more out in the open, getting him to recognize what he was feeling, has truly helped their relationship.

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>>129715232

we really couldn’t stop but we had an excuse because we had to prefilm things because milena is leaving the country to visit her brother so we had to film more… 2x10? i went on tv time after 2x10 to put black sails in my favorite shows of all time

Sebastian

3 weeks ahead of schedule, they’ll be done with the show before 3x01 gets posted 😭

sand_fl
>>129715232

well, that's the perfect excuse to binge then. hope you two have a nice few days to rest then. well, can't wait to the end of the show to see how you rank it then. i watched the show because my crush of back then recommended it to me lol. believe it or not i watched a bunch of my favourite shows because she recommended them, this one, avatar and fullmetal alchemist brotherhood. my gay ass at least has good taste lol

cosmotron

Back at Nassau, Jack, Max, and Featherstone discuss the logistics of making enough hold space for the gold. I love how much it is Max keeping the meeting on track, from making sure both Featherstone and Jack are staying calm, to assuring Featherstone that this whole thing is at all feasible. Not that he doesn’t have good points of course. But still, it’s great how easily she redirects him when he is freaking out, saying that by the time they are done emptying the hold they will be close enough to departure that he can actually tell the other men what’s going on. “Is it possible for two men, days away from unending wealth, to be any less happy?” Haha that’s certainly true. Of course, Jack’s feelings are more complicated than Featherstone’s, and they don’t have to do with the gold. Naturally, it’s all about Anne. Last episode there was no Jack, and this time there’s no Anne. And while Jack seems like he’s angry with Max it becomes clear that he’s really more frustrated with himself and the situation than anything else, as it has forced him to admit something. Something he’s probably been considering but tried to deny to himself for a while now. “She’s a fucking mystery to me. So I’ve realized two things are possible: one, something has changed within her, something so significant that she has turned into someone I barely recognize. Or, two…it was a fantasy that I ever knew her at all. And the most disturbing thing about it is because it’s Anne…I will likely never know which it is.” I’ve mentioned in previous comments that, while Jack does know Anne very well in many ways, it’s clear there are certain things he has never understood about her. And her actions regarding Max in s1 show that: he had no idea how much that situation would bother Anne, just as he didn’t realize that “choosing” Max over her would cause her to spiral in such a way. I’m not saying he should have been able to accurately predict those things, but it does demonstrate integral ways in which he doesn’t get her the way he always thought he did. So, yeah, I’m glad the show is making all of that clear in the text as well as the subtext. (Oh, and yet another great Max dress: much more muted but with some really nice green tones in there that I like.)

cosmotron

We then go to the reveal that one of the women working in the brothel has been giving information to Mrs. Mapleton, the previous madame. It’s not necessarily a plotpoint you would expect to come back after she seemingly got her revenge for being fired by Jack, but it makes sense. She’s been established as someone who does whatever she has to do for her own benefit…and that in turn leads her to inform Eleanor of what she’s learned. Or thinks she’s learned anyway. It’s interesting the way the ‘story’ of what happened can seem true to them, even though it wasn’t actually orchestrated in the intentional way Mapleton implies. Max didn’t have Logan and Charlotte killed, and it was actually quite unrelated to the Urca gold. But it’s not surprising that Mapleton assumes it was all done purposefully. I am surprised that any of the girls feel such affection for Mapleton: she didn’t generally seem well-liked, but it’s certainly possible that she treated some girls much better than others. Unrelated note, but something else that the Fathom’s Deep podcast pointed out is that since Max took over the brothel the women who work there tend to be much more covered up than they were when Mapleton was in charge. Not always, but far more so than they were before. I also like seeing how Eleanor is clearly still deeply affected by her choice to betray Vane. Much like with Max in s1, it’s not a choice she made and then has no regrets about. She’s often questioning it, and I think that’s part of what makes her a compelling character. She doesn’t do these things and just not care about them: she does care, and she does them anyway. Again, very like Flint in that way. Though…I don’t think Flint would ever betray Miranda (or Thomas for that matter).

cosmotron

Back to The Walrus crew, and John Silver the storyteller. I already talked about this in it’s own smaller comment, but it’s still a great scene emphasizing how good Silver is at this. “When Captain Flint first arrived on this island he gained influence faster than any man I’d seen before or since. I heard people say it was his violence, I heard people say it was his charm. But it was clear to me the reason he was so good at bending men towards his will was he knew the power of a story. How to harness it for his own ends.” Great dialogue from Scott, and very true. Not just for Flint, but for much of the themes of this show. We’ve seen over and over again how stories are used by people for their benefit in this world, and exactly how effective it is every time. Anyway, I also like how quickly Silver pounces on the guy who was laughing during his speech. Because he is *very* aware of how easily the plan to steal the gold from under Flint’s nose could get himself killed, and he’s absolutely right that acting off is going to be suspicious. Of course, what this scene is really doing is setting up what happens later. Silver makes a comment about how “that man could be a real problem for us” to the other man that had been watching over the gold. When you know what happens you can really see the guy’s thought process in real time, and it is both wild and hilarious that Silver has no idea what he’s unintentionally communicated. More on that later though.

cosmotron

The scene where Billy comes up to the table that Flint, Miranda, and Abigail are at is really funny (at least at first). Abigail cannot stop looking at Billy Biceps haha, and who can blame her? I love Miranda hiding her own smile at this, it’s all quite endearing. But it leads into us learning more about Billy as well! And what we learn is both very tragic and makes sense. Billy has always been one of the more empathetic and ‘moral’ of the pirates, and learning about his parents fits well into that. Historical information time! “Levelers” were a political activism group during this time period. They argued for things like more equal suffrage, religious freedom, and to no longer imprison those in debt, among a whole lot of other things. Flint mentions as much here when he says that Billy’s parents spoke out against “impressment and kidnappings”. Such people would often be taken to hard labor camps, not unlike the one where Vane was enslaved. I love how the camera hangs on Abigail’s face during this, and the actress does a great job absorbing all of this information and clearly feeling so strongly about it. Like with the audience, she is learning the history of these people and realizing that they didn’t choose to go into piracy because they loved stealing and killing, but because their circumstances brought them there. Great stuff, wonderfully done. More good conversations between Miranda and Flint. It really does feel like there’s so much more openness to their scenes now. Where before Thomas was like this heavy thing pressing down on them, now it’s like that weight has been removed. “There are defenses that can be made of that man.” Lol I can just hear Milena and Lola saying that they will defend Flint! Of course all of this is intercut with poor crewman Irving, unknowingly about to fall to his death all because another crewman interpreted a look from Silver in a certain way.

MOB12

I have a feeling this show will be your guys favorite show of all time

cosmotron

It really is darkly hilarious to see Silver realize exactly what is happening right before it does. And he even tries to rush out to stop it, maybe on instinct. But it’s done. And it calls back to Scott talking about how much power Silver wields through telling a story, and that power extends to when he isn’t even trying to make something happen. Small scene with Max, Jack, and Featherstone continuing to discuss the gold. Not a lot to say about this one, but a few exchanges I love. First: “Is he talking about you?” “He’s talking about Miss Bonny.” “I’m talking about Miss Guthrie.” Cracks me up every time. But I also love Max’s line to Feathersone: “Please go with him so he doesn’t get himself killed” when Jack leaves to go and ask whoever is at the fort if they want to be allies. Great Eleanor scene. Firstly when this guy (His name is Fraiser apparently) starts to say that “we” must do something, he corrects him. Because he certainly isn’t planning to get himself involved. But the rest of what Eleanor says is important too. Because what this man is suggesting is that Eleanor have all of these people killed. Including Max, whose name is the hardest for her to say. Eleanor says that she “will not be that person” though it’s clear Fraiser doesn’t believe her. I think this sort of ties into what I was talking about with her character before. Sure, she has had men killed before. But she didn’t do it without hesitation, without regret, without it being something that stayed with her afterward. And that was with men she disliked, not a list of people that includes someone she loved (loves? Some of that is absolutely still there). Even with Vane, she can try and make herself believe that he has survived, or somehow convinced his crew to not turn against him. There’s that benefit of the doubt. But doing this…it would be definitive. And she pretty clearly isn’t ready to do that, even as she knows how bad Max and Jack’s plans would be for her own.

Gustavo

Could you girls give us a preview of what you thought of the finale in thousand words or less? Thank you.

cosmotron

I love this funeral scene on the ship. Abigail’s narration comes around again, just as we also see the scarred pirate that frightened her before. Now he is grieving his dead friend, and Abigail’s whole view of the men around her has shifted. She views them as men now, not ones merely using that as a “disguise”, as she said earlier. “It would seem these monsters are men - sons, brothers, fathers. And it would seem these men fear their own monsters. An Empire. A navy. A King. My father.” Ugh, it’s so good. Abigail is written so well, especially for a character that has gotten such little screentime. And this of course leads us into a rather big reveal. One that I always forget comes here, and tend to remember happening earlier. Lola and Milena never seemed to consider this option, I think because of the woman who was killed alongside Alfred Hamilton. She was likely his mistress or a new wife, and was probably just killed because she was a witness. Of course, it’s also possible that Flint just killed her in pure anger because he was already filled with rage, but we don’t know that part for sure. What we do know is that Flint hunted Alfred Hamilton down, risked the lives of his men for the sake of something that gave them nothing, all so he could kill Alfred Hamilton himself. Oh, and he did it all because Miranda told him about it, and she knew what would happen. We’ve known for a long while that Miranda isn’t some witch controlling Flint’s actions. But on a metaphorical level, there’s an interesting aspect to it that still feels true. Her actions, her choices, are what compelled Flint, and occurred precisely as she knew and wanted them to be. And of course, we as the audience completely understand why. Of course Flint and Miranda wanted Alfred Hamilton dead after what he did to them. (S2 spoilers only) Fher vf vagrerfgvat gung Ybeq Nfur pnerf fb zhpu nobhg gur qrngu bs fbzrbar ur XABJF orgenlrq fbzrbar gung vf fhccbfrq gb or n pybfr sevraq. FHER VF SHAAL. “There would be law in the Americas, when Captain Flint hung over Charlestown.” Well, fuck. I love Miranda insisting she go with Flint ashore. And this is of course when she actually says that what happened with Alfred Hamilton was her fault. “If you’re going to face judgement behind those walls, then so should I.” (S2 spoilers only) V'z abg fher ubj zhpu orggre guvatf jbhyq unir tbar sbe ure unq fur fgnlrq, pbafvqrevat jung unccraf ba gur fuvc. Ohg bu zna qbrf vg uheg gb jngpu ure tb abj.

cosmotron

Minor thing I had to mention too: that shot of Flint and Miranda in the rowboat feels like a direct callback/inverse of the one of them in 2x05 when they’re leaving London and we see their backs in the boat. And that hurts me.

cosmotron

I love Abigail finding her voice when Flint starts getting beaten. Like I mentioned before, for a character that hasn’t really had much in the way of screentime until now, the show has done great stuff with her. This might be a strange time to mention it, but I love how varied the female characters are on this show? They all feel so distinct and capable and great in their own ways, even more minor characters like Abigail (or Idelle in the brothel). (S2 spoilers only) Gur svefg guvat jr frr va Crgre Nfur’f ubhfr vf gung TBQQNZA PYBPX. Yvgrenyyl gur irel svefg guvat. Whfg...n unatvat fubg ba gur pybpx gung fjrrcf bire gbjneq gurqbbejnl. Svefg gvzr guebhtu lbh qba'g abgvpr nalguvat bqq nobhg vg ng nyy. Xabjvat jung unccraf va gur arkg rcvfbqr...tbq, gurl xarj jung gurl jrer qbvat. I love Miranda trying to fix her hair while they’re waiting to see Lord Ashe. How quiet it is when Ashe reunites with his daughter. And how much older he also seems when he approaches. “Welcome to Charlestown.” Fbba vg'yy or, "tbbqolr Puneyrfgbja" unun. “I’m in love with a good woman sir.” I love Featherstone haha. And his love for Idelle, which I do not blame him for! I also love her. Great transition to showing the carrion birds circling up above. Really adds a nice ominous note to it. Especially since, at this point, we still haven’t seen what happened to Vane. It so easily could have been his body hanging inside the fort. Though, of course, we soon learn who it actually is.

cosmotron

Richard Guthrie, who shall be missed by…exactly one person lol. Much as I did hate Mr. Guthrie, I think it’s important to remember that the last interaction Eleanor had with him was one where he showed her the *only* physical affection we have ever seen her get from him. It was the only moment that seemed like it *might* have been a genuine time of connection for them. And then Vane killed him. The way the ending ramps up using this letter from Vane, and it leads to showing us where he and his crew are waiting…so great. Makes you incredibly pumped for the next episode. And so I am, despite having seen it before. “Once I do, I’ll be returning to Nassau to settle the rest of my accounts.” What a fucking great line to end on. Anyway, episodes nine and ten of this season really are something else, and I can’t wait to see Lola and Milena experience them as well. I’m sad that the show is almost halfway over, but also eager for them to see more of it. There’s so much greatness ahead.

Eric
>>129718379

I feel like it is a law that this show has to take you by surprise, and in the end it will be one of your favorites. There's basically nothing that this show doesn't excel at.

Eric

lololol I love how you pulled out your phone to see how long it would take. I remember finding a site that lets you track travel times by boat, basically google maps for boats. And I was punching in the two locations, and figuring a general travel speed of 4.5-5.5 knots. It becomes even more "important" to know later on.

DalyDose
>>129718379

My top 3 shows are ATLA, Vinland Saga, and Black Sails. I feel like they'll have the same list by the end of this lol

HenryM

So many things happened in this episode it's really hard to pick a favorite moment! There was a particular line that stood out to me tho "I listen to you because I know you give a shit about my interests, and I ain't the only one who thinks that way", I feel like Silver just got a reality check on how he's really perceived by these men and the power that comes with it, it'll be really interesting to see how this knowledge will shape his character

HenryM
>>129719244

I love Abigail's realization, "these monsters are men, brothers, fathers, sons" chills... I actually found her narration very soothing, she should make audiobooks lol

Sone

Well would be better if you watched 8,9 and 10 together , but yes 9 and 10 is a must if you don't want to go crazy 😀... , but then again when you are done with 10 you will just want to watch 3x01 anyway 😄

cosmotron
>>129722324

It’s a wild thing to say about Silver of all people, who has been quite transparent about where his loyalties lie (with himself). And in contrast Flint, while he is willing to sacrifice his men for the sake of his goal, is actually trying to do something that would be better for them in the long run. It also calls back to Flint’s words to Silver from a few episodes ago. When he said “where else can you wake up and matter?” Silver isn’t used to people viewing him this way, or having this kind of influence.

Gustavo

Flint: ... and it all depends on what he sees standing before him, me or my name. Milena: Your eyes. hahahahaahhahaa

1234

that "i recognize you" scene with flint and miranda is one of my favourites in the whole show. so rich and gorgeously acted.

HenryM
>>129722324

"where else can you wake up and matter" I love that quote and the fact that Silver thinks what's best for the crew even tho he keeps telling himself that is all for his own benefit. To put the crew's best interest first is a quality of a proper quartermaster!

Nyeisha Melvina Clark

Every time an episode ends with either Vane or Flint giving a speech, it literally sends chills down my spine. Both men's voices are so distinct and perfect. I love how Vane made a note to remind Eleanor, that once again he does know her and he knew the chance of her betraying him was high so he made plans to sort it out with his men beforehand and was ready to counter. No one will miss Eleanor's dad but I do feel bad that the one time she finally has a nice moment with him, he is killed right after. The sad thing is you could tell betraying Vane deeply hurt Eleanor and she was truly worried for his safety, it was even the reason why she didn't immediately jump to hurt Max and Jack after learning of their plans, she was too affected by what she may have done to Vane and didn't want to keep being that person, too bad Vane had already made the decision to hurt her in the most hurtful way. Vane explaining that he was once a slave also explains why he's so adamantly against Nassau returning under England's rule, it gives more perspective into the character and why he does what he does. Also, LOVE Silver realizing he is gaining power and gaining it fast, he now has man ready and willing to kill for him on looks alone, who would have thought he would hold this much weight with the men back in S1.

JBK405

Right around this episode is actually when I think of a comparison with an early episode of "Battlestar Galactica" (Which I may recall you two saying you had seen before). In the episode "Bastille Day" in season one, where they introduced Tom Zarek on the prison ship, one of the other inmates attacks Cally. When Apollo confronts Zarek about this, Zarek points out that THEY (The Colonial government) are the ones who put him in a cage and turned him into an animal. The pirates likewise didn't start this way. They were turned into this by the world around them. We saw via flashback how Flint was changed. We've seen Vane relive his past. Here we hear the story of how Billy was changed. They may be vicious, thieving pirates, but Abigail has to ask the question of what forced them to this in the first place.

Sweet Owl

Abigail monologues, from her diary and the one she has with Flint and Miranda, are among my favourites in the whole show; I truly liked her character and wish we could have more of her. Her whole journey of realization was so well written and I could see Lola and Milena going through the same journey, especially Lola who seemed to see things through the same eyes as Abigail. In the last episode she commented "Why do you walk around her like a shark?!" talking about the guy who thought Anne was a prostitute: he was one of the nicest guys in the show, was nothing but kind and polite with Anne and yet the first assumption was that he had bad intentions. Again in this episode, Lola had the same assumption towards the scarfaced pirate, he was just looking, maybe out of curiosity, but because of his appereance the attitude towards him was kinda aggressive. But by the end Abigail sees them as what they are, men like everyone else, and so do Lola and Milena. I also liked how they both seemed part of the crew and totally fall for Silver charisma, that "look" had the same effect on them as on the bearded guy (can't remember the name). Amazing episode overall with one of the best shot in the show imo, when the man o'war enters Charlestown bay.

Amber

im so glad you guys are enjoying this show so much. im the exact same way, i started season 4 tonight and im so sad im almost done lol

Amber

I have such a soft spot for Vane lol Him saying how he was a slave and just can't agree with what Eleanor and flint are trying to accomplish, I just really can't help but sympathize and understand his point of view.

cosmotron
>>129719244

Yeah she has a really great voice for reading, you're not the first person I've seen comment on that!

cosmotron
>>129724173

I love that moment too, he's so tender with her in that scene. It really stands out because of how strained things were between them. Moments like that (and earlier ones too of course) really show the depth of love that is still between them.

cosmotron

Oh, the ship Vane has is the one he took from Ned Low. So it’s a recently acquired ship.

cosmotron

Also, the way I need the 2x09 and 2x10 reactions right now 😩😩

Kārlis Jandāls

I really hope u would put up 2x9 also today here :D Cant efing wait! I could pay more I just wanna see because youre discussions are everything to me!

Levi

Ve Vere Avere

Wanda Did Nothing Wrong

If they’re that far ahead, should we place bets on if they know who the big guy is (being vague for people watching along with them) Cuz the poor man doesn’t get a pirate name drop. Its probably my only big criticism of this show, that the showrunners expect normal people to instantly know him by his real name. I got chills the first time he said it, cuz I did know. But I’ve only ever seen one other person have any idea who he was lol

MOB12
>>129718379

Mine is Naruto, Vinland Saga, Black Sails lmao in no particular order

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>>129743967

pirate teach sounded familiar so i googled to see if he was real and we saw the name and thought we accidentally spoiled ourselves

Wanda Did Nothing Wrong
>>129743967

You didn’t. Jack says his pirate name sometime in S4, I think. But he never gets anything other than that that I can remember. Which is a shame because he’s a pretty big deal lol

Sweet Owl
>>129743967

Yeah that name is spoken maybe by Jack once (not sure) and another time by another character I won't name, the writers put a lot of trust in the audience on this one. I don't mind though, I prefer a show that trusts its audience than the opposite.

Wanda Did Nothing Wrong

Fun fact: the prostitute that’s spying for Mapleton is Tom Hoppers (Billy) wife.

Wanda Did Nothing Wrong
>>129743967

There’s putting trust and then there’s not thinking ahead. Having him in the promos for S3 would guarantee that people would know. But people watching it years later, if they’re not particularly well versed in real pirate lore, wouldn’t and don’t usually have an idea who he is. And it’s a detriment imo, because knowing who he is really ads weight to all his scenes, how everyone acts around him and how everyone talks about him.

My Toasty Toast

A little context for Billy’s backstory - the Royal Navy at the time had “press gangs,” meaning they would pay people to try to find able-bodied people to kidnap off the street and “press them into service,” which means force them to work on the English warships with no pay. A lot of pirates were people that were essentially kidnapped by the Navy from the streets of London or other English coastal cities and escaped. I also enjoy how Abigail could empathize with Billy killing the man that held him, despite being from “civilized society,” as she had similar emotions when she learned from Charles that he beheaded Ned, and is the start of her beginning to humanize these “monsters.” Also interesting thing to note, anytime John seems to be fabricating a story, he uses the name “Solomon Little.” It’s the name of the pirate hanging in Charleston story, and it’s the name of the boy at the orphanage where he said he got the ideas to do a daily address to the crew

cosmotron

I got a reply to one of my comments from a "TARS Cooper" but I don't see the comment anywhere in here. The comment can be seen in my email, but not actually in the comment section. Not sure if it's just an issue on my end or what, but I wanted to say it was a very sweet comment and I really appreciated it!

cosmotron
>>129757520

Other Fun Fact: The actors who play Miranda and Peter Ashe are also married in real life.

Amber
>>129733039

Sorry i was saying how vane said he couldn’t agree with their plan, not my opinion lol

Gustavo
>>129735906

One thing that I was thinking the other day and I don't remember if they explained this, but why didn't Vane demand to have The Ranger back? I mean, once he took the fort, he had the power to do that, right? So why not? Was it already with another crew and not there in Nassau anymore?

cosmotron
>>129735906

Because Flint is the one who has The Ranger. It was the second ship being captained by Gates when they started chasing the Urca toward the end of s1. Actually, it might have gotten destroyed in that fight against the warship? Not sure. Either way, not super available to Vane.

Drew

The speech Vane gives at the end is one of the most badass, chill inducing monologues I’ve ever heard on TV.

ArtficialFlvrz

I don't really see Vane as completely incompatible with Flint/Eleanor's vision for Nassau in the long run. He probably can't 100% fit with everything they want, but neither can most regular pirates who live there. This plan for legitimacy in the eyes of England is relatively recent with the appearance of Abigail. The original goal was to get the 5 million and use it to pay workers, get materials and weapons, to build a Nassau that was independent, but also cultivated, properly rebuilt, defended, and not worth the trouble of fighting. I don't think Vane would really be aggressively against that, as long as they rule themselves and aren't under a king.

Kārlis Jandāls

I am refreshing like crazy. When the 2x9 comes out? :D