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Black Sails 3x02 Reaction (Patreon)

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if i ever had the desire to sail the ocean this episode killed that

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TeaDrinker3000

Here's my review for 3x02, my last review-only video. Really looking forward to being able to show you guys my reactions from now on, 3x02 was the final straw in making me want to show people my response to watching episodes for the first time, the drowning sequence in particular was incredible to experience. Thanks so much to everyone who's watched up until now! https://youtu.be/4WxzhG6gsj4?si=wfhFW5LLyJRAf3p8

cosmotron

Ah, yes. The episode that made me think: “A pirate’s life for me? No thanks.”

cosmotron

If you’re curious what dream Miranda says at the start/end and can’t tell, it’s what she said to Flint back in 2x05. “I need you to come with me so I can save your life.” Which is a wonderful little stab in the heart. She’s just repeating/screaming it over and over, including at the moment when Death is literally between them.

sand_fl

i've been on a boat/ship a few times... do not recommend it either. i get sick at cars and planes, so you can guess what happened. i'm reading a book right now and just when i got the notification i was reading a chapter where they talk about pirates... this ones not so nice mind you. i haven't watched the last reaction yet (i'm surprised too). kind of a shitty week and still feeling a bit like shit. will probably binge 3x01 and 3x03 on monday.

cosmotron

S3, episode two. I always remember this and the previous one as being a single episode because of how they flow into each other. But the opener of this season is very much the literal calm before the storm, and now the storm is here. Lots to talk about with this one. We open with a very striking dream sequence. I love the use of color grading here. And Miranda climbing up onto the ship, from the sea itself, a bullet hole in her head, leading Flint down into the depths below. And the cabin we see isn’t Flint’s cabin, but the one from the previous episode with Hallendale’s dead body. Then we catch just a glimpse of Death (as seen in the play the brothel was performing), continuing to lead Flint further down. It’s all incredibly erie and haunting, and we’re jolted so suddenly out of it too. Miranda climbing up from the water like that put me in mind of the story Flint told about how he chose his name, of the man rising from the sea and vanishing within it again. Silver and Billy talking about Flint is a short but interesting scene. “He had me there, and that is not supposed to happen.” This calls back to when Silver talked about not “believing” in Flint. At the time I mentioned that even though he claimed that was the case, he was already demonstrating behavior that indicated otherwise. And that continues here. Silver isn’t supposed to “believe” in Flint, but even he was caught up in the speech he gave last episode. Even he was as swayed by Flint as the rest of the crew.

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From there we go to Eleanor. I like how Mrs. Hudson, the chambermaid, calls her out when she tries to say she wasn’t privileged. Maybe not in the same way that those living in London would have been, but she absolutely is all the same. “The only difference is their families had better lawyers” always makes me chuckle, even though I tend to be an Eleanor defender haha. Oh, fun fact, Mrs. Hudson the chambermaid is played by Toby Stephens’s wife! Anna Louise Ploughman. Naq fur'f n zvabe punenpgre V yvxr dhvgr n ovg! V rawbl gur wbhearl fur tbrf ba, naq vg'f vagrerfgvat gb frr ure fb qvfzvffvir bs Ryrnabe jura gurl raq hc fb pybfr yngre ba. On the deck, we have a conversation with Eleanor and Woodes Rodgers. Jub V ungr. Unir V zragvbarq V ungr uvz? Orpnhfr V qb. Mostly, this continues to establish the stakes for her character. She has to put everything into making this happen. “If you lie, you die.” Also, I dig Eleanor’s green dress. Green is a great color on her. “Lost it? As in through a wager?” “No, ‘Lost it’ as in I had it in a sack, and put it down. And when I came back it weren’t where I put it.” The way Jack and Featherstone stare at him after he says this…fucking hysterical. And for the guy to not at all pick up on Featherstone trying to encourage him to withdraw less…just funnier. “I need a new sack as well.” “Obviously.” Great stuff.

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Max talking to Jack about the gold. Once again, I love Max, and the next few paragraphs are going to be about that. Her plan here is so smart, and just makes sense, especially with the situation at hand. It’s frustrating to see Jack continue to be so suspicious of her when, thus far, she has done nothing but improve things for him and Anne Except, of course, for the change in their relationship, which is what this is really all about, and that becomes clear rather quick. Max makes a lot of valid points, and says that doing this would help to secure her own future as well as Anne’s. And Jack immediately gets irritated, saying that they would leave him in the wind (despite Max protesting that was not what she meant, and that’s obvious: she’s literally telling Jack her plan so that he will do the same thing). “Now we’re just accepting that if forced to choose between a long future with you and a short one with me…there’s no chance she’ll even consider the latter.” “Of COURSE she will choose you!” I really like how the camera lingers on Max’s face while Jack is saying all of that. You can read a lot of her emotions: frustration and impatience with Jack, hurt at what she knows the truth is. Because that is the truth. She knows that Anne and Jack are inseparable, and that if made to choose Anne would choose Jack. She knows it and has accepted it, but it still hurts. And she’s fed up with Jack acting this way toward her as well. “I am here in part to secure my own future, I will not apologize for that. But that is not why I’m asking you to cooperate with me. I am asking because though I know we have our differences, I know there is one thing we share. We both love her. Let us make sure her future is at least secure.” Again, great speech. Because Max has never tried to hide the fact that she does what she does for the sake of securing her own future. She’s always been very upfront about that, in a similar way that Silver was. But that doesn’t change the fact that she also loves Anne. If she wanted to just secure her own wealth, she would have gone behind Jack’s back and exchanged her share without anyone knowing. But coming to him, trying to convince him, is very obviously motivated by her feelings for Anne. Even though it started from a place of practicality and gratefulness, real care and love has grown between them. Honestly, that moment highlights what I love about Max as a character. She is someone who is both deeply pragmatic AND extremely empathetic. She carries ruthless intelligence AND compassionate understanding. A lot of times with very intelligent characters they are portrayed as not being very good with emotions, outside of maybe manipulating them. But Max isn’t like that. Her empathy and her intelligence go hand in hand, and in fact, her empathy and understanding of others is often what helps her make smart choices.

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Back aboard the Walrus, Silver is working below deck to fix holes in the hull, with a crewmember that has been around since season one. In fact, the first time he really stood out was when Silver ‘cooked’ that pig on the beach while they were cleaning the ship. He was the one complaining that it made everyone sick. To go from that, to here where he is telling Silver that he’s definitely not among “the useless fucks” that exist on the crew? To being so genuinely caring? It’s something I definitely notice a lot more on rewatch. And, well, considering what happens to poor Muldoon here soon…yeah, definitely feels different. “All the shit we’ve been through the last few months…do you wanna know what the most terrifying part of all its been? ‘We’ll take care of you’.” I think that really says a lot about how Silver has lived his life, and what his early life was like in particular. I love that transition from the storm to the swirling teacup. Great stuff. Which brings us to another Eleanor and Rodgers conversation, and the reveal that Eleanor was the one who got Teach thrown off of Nassau. That Vane was once his protegee, who Eleanor turned against him. She got Vane to betray Teach, then all these years later betrayed Vane too. And I love how blatantly Eleanor says “I was fucking him” haha. And later it’s very interesting that she uses the term “monsters”, to describe the pirates that must be driven out. Bapr zber, V ungr Jbbqrf Ebqtref. Nyfb, vf gurer n punapr ur'f nyfb znq urnevat nobhg ure shpxvat Inar, orpnhfr ur'f nyernql orpbzvat nggenpgrq gb ure? V'q oryvrir vg.

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Then we see Vane, working alongside the slaves. I think the conversation Scott has with him is very interesting, pointing out that Vane working with them doesn’t help in the way he thinks it does. And I like that we stick with Vane after, see him in his tent upset and frustrated. Until he’s interrupted by Teach of course haha. I like this interaction: you’re as unsure as Vane what Teach really wants right up until he gives him a hug. It could have easily been a sword he came at him with instead. “They are both dead.” Woof. It’s still easier for Vane to think of Eleanor as already dead (dead to him) than to think of her still being alive and awaiting trial in England.

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Back on the Walrus, in the middle of the storm. I wish I had more to say about it, but it’s so masterfully done. Intense sand terrifying, it really does make sense why they called the storm “a ship killer”. From watching a man slide off into the water right behind Billy, to the way everyone slides around on deck, it all underlines how dangerous it is. And of course, what happens below with Silver and Muldoon is no better, as Muldoon’s pinned against the wall by a cannon. And their screams for help can’t be heard over the storm, over the rest of the screaming. Flint makes the only choice he can now: he cuts the line to the mast, sending men to their deaths, but for the sake of saving the rest of the crew and the ship. The way their bodies just spiral off and vanish beneath the waves is very haunting. But it’s nothing compared to what is happening below. God. This scene. Silver holding Muldoon’s hand as he drowns. It’s horrible and intense and so well done, and you feel so much. Like, it really makes you feel every moment of it. There’s no cutting away, nothing to do but be in the same position as Silver, helplessly watching it happen. And Silver still clutching his hand, after Muldooon has died…oof. What a scene. It’s honestly one of the most memorable moments in the show for me, and has long stuck with me. Form that awfulness, we go to some comedy! The guy who forgot his sack of gold misplaced it YET AGAIN. “Just how fucking stupid, exactly, are your men?” “It’s hard to say.” Cracks me up every time. Also, I love Jack’s reaction when Teach shows up. He’s like a total fanboy over him. So happy Teach remembers his name, only to immediately be disappointed when Teach describes him in a less than flattering way haha. Teach is kind of a boomer? Very ‘back in my day’ and not comfortable with how things have changed. I like how Teach doesn’t even say anything to the men that ask to join his crew. Doesn’t even really look at them, and still they fight each other for it. And when Teach leaves and places his hand on the shoulder of the man that won the fight? All without saying a word to them? Amazing.

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Jack finally comes around to Max’s plan in large part because of what Teach said, talking about seeing “decay” here among “Captains who should have been deposed” and “men who are comfortable”. I think it’s interesting that Jack sees something inherently shameful in what they are doing, comparing it to rodents scurrying away and hiding food for winter. Seems to find it weak, perhaps? The Anne and Max conversation afterward I really like as well. Once more, kudos to Jessica Parker Kennedy for conveying how much she feels about what she is going to say, talking about what is going to happen in the future and how it will lead their paths to diverge. How what they are cannot last with what is in front of them, no matter how strongly they feel for each other. And Max still can’t quite bring herself to say it, and instead just kisses Anne. I know some people don’t buy into their relationship, but scenes like this show how much care there is between them. It’s not something that only Anne feels anymore. God, that crew member finding Silver just sitting and staring at Muldoon’s body under the water…. Flint is the only one still up on the deck, fighting against the storm with all of his might to keep the ship steady. But even a man like him can still get pushed by the waves. Is still vulnerable to nature.

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I think I mentioned this before, but Woodes Rodgers really did write a book that was quite famous about his own interactions with pirates. “Rash decisions and the injuries that followed. The scars of which are…left out of the pages of your account. But perhaps harder to erase elsewhere.” Ubyl fuvg V arire abgvprq gung urer. Ernyyl uvagvat ng guvf qnexre fghss jvgu uvz IREL rneyl ba. Ebqtref jvyy gnyx yngre nobhg "guvatf yrsg bhg bs gur obbx" gung jbhyq "xrrc lbh sebz orvat vaivgrq gb qvaare cnegvrf", ohg guvf vf n uvag gbjneq vg nf jryy. Hornigold’s face when he sees Eleanor is so funny haha. “Captain Flint is dead.” Aaaand that statement leads us into another Flint dream. Where he is once again following down below the ship. Where Miranda and Death are waiting for him. Miranda still shouting, screaming her words from before, but Flint cannot hear her. She’s begging for him to come so she can save his life as Death stands between them, and then she’s screaming at his ear. God, what a great sequence. And that brings us to the consequences of the storm. Most of the crew has survived, but they have lost basically all of their supplies. Worst of all? They are without the wind and stranded. Flint isn’t dead yet, but may be soon. What an episode! Always one that has stuck in my memory, and will continue to do so. Can’t wait to see Lola and Milena’s reaction/thoughts as well. Really looking forward to the rest of the season too.

Wanda Did Nothing Wrong

In S2 Miranda said “Every man has his torments. Demons born of past wrongs that hound and harass him. You perceive the effects of Captain Flint's demons; echoes of their voices. But I know their names. I was there when they were born. I know the things they whisper to him at night. So you can believe me when I tell you that within his chorus of torments, none of them look or sound like me.” And now…. She is his main torment 😢

MOB12

Just a quick little comment mentioning which pirates are real historical people: Jack Rackham, Anne Bonney, Charles Vane, Benjamin Hornigold, Edward Teach, and Woodes Rogers. If im missing anyone let me know.

HenryM

That storm looked incredible, did this show win any awards for set design/visual effects? (or any award for that matter), props to the production team, that shot of Billy holding on for dear life while he got in and out of the water looked amazing, his huge arms saved him there lol

cosmotron
>>131077377

Ah, is she? Every time it looked like she was just repeating the "save your life" bit.

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>>131079344

This is one of the things that always hurts the most on rewatch. Hearing her say that to Eleanor and knowing she will eventually become one of those torments...ouch.

cosmotron

I appreciate how much you love all the characters no matter what side they're on, because I'm the same. I can understand not liking Eleanor, but I love her as well. I love Jack, Anne, and Max. And I love Silver and Flint. All these characters I love are in conflict and it's part of why I also love this show.

HenryM
>>131079344

Nice catch, I didn't even think of that. That last dream sequence gave me the willies

cosmotron
>>131083931

The *only* Emmy awards this show have won have been for editing and visual effects. It got nominated for lots of other things, but I think it only won three or four, and all in the technical categories. Which it deserves, don't get me wrong, but I'll forever be bitter that the actors (especially Toby Stephens) didn't win all the awards for their performances. Oh, and that goes for other awards too. If you look at the series IMDB page there's a ton of awards the show was nominated for, including a GLAAD one, but very very few wins.

cosmotron

"I have started my Black Sails agenda for my friends." "ME TOO!" So it begins. You have now become one of us, who shout Black Sails recommendations to everyone we meet. There is no going back. Resistance is futile.

HenryM
>>131078577

Ugh I hate drowning scenes, one of the worst ways to die, what gets me is the desperation moments before it happens, and the only thing Silver can do is hold his hand, fucking tragic

HenryM
>>131083931

No awards for performances? Outrageous... well at least they got recognized on technical level, well deserved

HenryM
>>131084856

They even got to a point where they started dreaming about watching episodes lmao

Gustavo

"Nassau is my father's house. It is my birthright..." Birthright? Seriously? I rolled my eyes when she said that, not gonna lie. "...and it was all to settle a personal feud with a former lover?" Woodes Rogers was spot on here. At this moment, I think this is exactly it. She just wants revenge on the man who took her father from her. "You have taken away the one thing that made Nassau what it was. You have given her prosperity." For what this people are (pirates) and the kind of life that they have to live, I think Teach is mostly right. The kind of "prosperity" that the gold brought with it is very dangerous to their way of living. We can see that with the fort, that is vital to their protection, they all know it, and yet they don't wanna work to repair it, they just wanna enjoy the comfort that all that gold can provide.

ODIS

"What's wrong with men living in comfort"? Nothing at all. But then you're not exactly living the life of a pirate. Teach speaks from the point of view of what it takes to be a successful pirate. And for pirates, comfort equals decay. So, in that sense, I don't believe Teach is saying anything wrong per se. He just subscribes to a different world model and lifestyle. Also, about the 2 men that fought with bare fists. No one said to the death. Just winning the fight is enough to prove who's the stronger of the two.

Nyeisha Melvina Clark

I'm sure that now you ladies can very well understand and empathize with our frustrations every time this show was passed over in the polls. THIS is why we kept fighting for it, the masterpiece that is Black Sails should be watched by everybody honestly. Silver is my absolute FAVORITE character in all of Black Sails (Flint/Vane tie for second btw), seeing his journey from where we met him to now is chef's kiss, and it only gets better from here. Blackbeard very much believes in the old way of Piracy, he is indeed an old man stuck in his old ways but I loved how he held no resentments toward Vane, the ending of the last episode was so ominous that it made you think he was coming to hurt Vane, then we learned of their past and it made you believe it even more but when they actually reunited, he just gave him a hug, it was actually a really sweet scene between two hardened men, lol. The last thing Eleanor knew is that Flint went to Charlestown in hopes of reconciling with England and bringing peace within Nassau, and Vane being directly opposed to that idea, she is now operating under the assumption that that is still true, but unfortunately for her Flint is even MORE opposed than Vane is of reconciling with England. She has no idea of the new Nassau that awaits her. The man wants a literal war, lol.

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>>131088275

As far as Eleanor goes, while I do think her feelings about her father are a big factor, there’s more tied up into it than that. She worked and made a lot of hard choices in the name of stabilizing Nassau. She took control of it from her father after he let the state of the island worsen. She betrayed and sacrificed and almost lost her life over it all. This is the only chance she has to at all accomplish the goals she had, and she knows her life is forfeit if she can’t. Everything is riding on this, not just her desire for vengeance.

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>>131095204

Yeah, this show is the epitope of a hidden gem. It flew under the radar and was overshadowed by shows like Game of Thrones, but in my opinion it’s still genuinely one of the best stories I’ve ever experienced in any medium. And it feels like screaming into the void sometimes trying to get other people to watch it, but goddamn if I’m not going to try anyway.

Shivering King Banana
>>131091800

A life of comfort will get in the way of any successful career not just piracy. Can't work hard while you're comfortable.

Shivering King Banana
>>131095204

Starz was the biggest thing holding this show back imo. If HBO released Black Sails it would have been bigger. Not just cause it would have had a bigger budget but when I first heard this show was on Starz I thought it would be bad because I never heard anyone say anything good about Starz.

ODIS
>>131091800

Not necessarily. For example, if something's a passion of yours, you may pursue it for its own sake, regardless of your level of comfort. If you become skilled at it, you could become very successful. But for piracy, it's like John said, " you'd lying if you say you didn't consider leaving this life behind." So, I think Teach's words are especially true for pirates.

Gustavo
>>131088275

I do think Eleanor cares about Nassau and what she bilt there, but I think this is secondary to her. I think her ambition and determination to build herself up and make a name out of herself was primarily (and subconsciously) to show her father that she was "as good" as a son, to gain his admiration, and therefore, his love. And now that her primarily drive force was taken from her, the first thing she wants is revenge. For her, If she can get out of it alive afterwards, great, if not, at least she got her revenge.

JBK405

The episode is great, but did I hear right that you're going to a Rammstein concert? I may be on a different continent, but if I'd know that in advance I may have looked into tickets!