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UNEDITED EXCLUSIVE: Buffy The Vampire Slayer Season 7 Episode 16 "Storyteller" and Episode 17 "Lies My Parents Told Me" REACTION! (Patreon)

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2022-11-09 01:00:26
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2026-06

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What it dooski! Here's my UNEDITED EXCLUSIVE: Buffy The Vampire Slayer Season 7 Episode 16 "Storyteller" and Episode 17 "Lies My Parents Told Me" REACTION!

LINK: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1zi2HOoNpJlC0ZlDiyDdt-5mMew-OOg9-/view?usp=drivesdk

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Timothy Nikiforovs

I find a good chunk of shows that follow an ensemble cast tend to have at least one episode told from an "on the outside looking in" perspective. An episode that focuses of minor characters observing the actions of the main characters. Like Heroes on SG1, or Lower Decks on TNG. Storyteller isn't the greatest example of that, though I do love that it took a shot at Buffy's long winded speeches. A little self parody never hurt a show. I do agree with S7 having some odd pacing though. While I get that this episode was meant to make Andrew really confront what he did and accept responsibility, locking down the seal at this point feels strange. It's like this close to the finale, that thing should be a ticking time bomb. The whole "tears seal it" kind of deflates the tension. As for ep17, at least they dealt with Wood's whole vendetta. Can't have the team divided heading into the apocalypse. Also twofer for disabling Spike's trigger. I will say Buffy is both right and wrong here. Spike, abilities wise, is absolutely a key player, not that Giles and Wood aren't useful too. For all Giles talks about how wars are won, he's sure eager to do away with one of their strongest soldiers. Still, there were legitimate concerns around that trigger, and Buffy was being far to blasé about the risks of letting Spike run around freely. Wood just inadvertently solved that problem. That said, while it is true that slayers all eventually die on the job, and if it hadn't been Spike it would just be some other demon or vampire, and that it was a fair fight to the death and Nikki wouldn't hesitate to dust Spike, it's completely understandable Wood would want to avenge his mother's death. Also like that he took the time to reclaim her coat so it didn't get dusted with Spike. I was having this discussion on the discord earlier. I don't think having a soul absolves vampires of crimes they committed before getting it. Angel knows that otherwise he wouldn't feel guilt over his actions as Angelus. I can't say I'd do any different in Holtz's shoes if I had to kill my own daughter he's turned into a vampire, soul or not. If Angel had just sat around for a hundred years(and granted, for a lot of it he did) feeling guilty about his past, it wouldn't be enough to make me begrudge any of the people Angelus hurt their vengeance. The thing with Angel is, he helps people now, and killing him won't change what Angelus did in the past. It will however doom all the innocent people he could otherwise save in the present. Spike has saved people, but until recently that was driven by a combination of being on a leash via the chip, and trying to impress Buffy. Since getting a soul, he's arguably killed more people than he's saved(though those ones legitimately aren't his fault with the brainwashing). Still, there's mostly the potential that he can be a force for good, but not much track record to go with it. All this to say, it's hard to argue with Giles' and Wood's reasoning to kill Spike. Now that the first can't control him though, there's a much better argument against that. Regarding Spike and Wood's last conversation, I feel like Spike was projecting a mixture of his experiences with Buffy and with his own mother onto Nikki and Robin. I also don't buy the whole idea that William's mother loved him but the demon didn't. Smells like cope, but I guess it allowed him to overcome the programming. I think it's more likely he was a great disappointment to his mother, and siring her(consequently removing her soul) just let her be as honest and cruel as she never had the heart to be before. I think some part of Spike realizes this, and he tries to make himself feel better by saying it's Robin's mom who didn't love her son. You could argue she's irresponsible taking a kid out on patrol, but I see no indication she didn't love her kid. At the same time I think he in some ways views Buffy as too wrapped up in the death and solitude of being a slayer that she can't really let anyone get close or really love them, and figures all slayers must be the same. I know we have some Angel eps before the next Buffy, but I'm stoked for 7x18. I'll say no more.

Dani Dekay
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Angel only started saving people for the same reason as Spike did. His feelings for Buffy. Idk how chaining someone in basement is blasé but….sure.

brad hawkes

Embodying Jack O’Neill with the element.. of… suspense! Need my stargate fix like a junkiehahah