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Sour Taste

if the next Fate is like this then I am done with Fate series and will not be watching more - Neel

Xeno

It was only a matter of time before the Apocrypha hate came out. If I can maybe help out, it's less that the world conveniently conforms to make Sieg win, but more that all that shit was needed to even have a chance against Karna in the first place. I mean, think about all the stunn that had to happen. Siegfried gives heart. Frankenstein gives infinite Balmungs Jeanne gives extra command spells Achilles gives Shield Astolfo uses Shield Chiron makes the promise for the shield Sieg summons Astolfo's sword he gave him way back when for the killing blow The list is so damn full of things that in the end, I think as a Karna fan it should be at least slightly acceptable when you figure the entire goddamn war needed to contrort itself into a shape that could beat him for there to be ANY chance. Just a thought. If you really don't like Fate anymore though, that's fine too I guess.

Kyoto

yeah nobody likes sieg being OP but dropping it just cause of him is :( that extends to rulur being all cap. BUT tbf its realistic for even neutral partys to have bias not that i like ruler and siegs bs but yeah i think the show is goos just ruler and sieg are unlikeable

SilverFox#7631

I just watched the first 12 episodes of this and skipped the rest, except for the like last 10 minutes to see how it ended.

SilverFox#7631

That's what I did for apocrypha. Can't wait for FGO babylonia and The round table both are some of my favorites.

Zkstur

Just fyi to use his noble phantasm that spear Vasavi Shakti he had to give up his armor due to lore and his actual legend reasons. That’s why you see his armor melting away. It’s actually really interesting I suggest reading the Mahabharata it gives more insight into Karna whose role is actually the rival to the main character Ajurna and is a really interesting read.

CliffPL

Karna's last noble phantasm forces him to abandon his armor to be able to use it so at least that is why Sieg was able to kill him but yeah plot armor always exists

Caerliss

I'm a bit saddened that you'll miss out on the Mordred story arch coming to its close in the next episode since they're one of the best master/servant couples in the entire fate franchise (personal opinion).. But perhaps seeing how they did Mordred and Sisigou dirty would only reinforce that dislike :think:. I can understand the dislike around the Sieg/Ruler plot. Frankly, if they took Sieg out of the show and even focused more on the other masters, it'd have been better. Especially Mordred and Sisigou.

AUO

factsssssssss i hate sieg too. karnaaaa>>>>>>>

AUO

lets gooo fate grand order babyloniaaaa!

Cedric Worthy

Knew it was a matter of time lmaoo. The show starts off so good only to be dragged down by it’s generic ass MC. Animation can only carry a story so far, God Of Highschool being the best example .

Idris Naama

I personally liked Fate/Apocrypha, but I completely agree that it doesn't compare to Fate/Zero, Unlimited Blade Works & Heavens Feel. HOWEVER Fate Grand Order is just as good as the main Fate Series you won't find any issues there that you had with Apocrypha.

Idris Naama

GOH anime was just an awful adaptation though. The webtoon is actually amazing.

RoyalBlue

Yea I hate Sieg and Ruler like they are the worst part of this show. But at the same time we can say that Karna was weakened like heavily. He didn't had a main mana source and Shirou was sourcing mana to countless servants who are all just shooting NP's one after the other. In FGO Karna goes wild and there are some more indian servants. But yea if we took out Sieg and Ruler and just make Mordred and Kairi the protags it would be amazing

Idris Naama

If you guys really are gonna start Fate/Grand Order next here's a specific watch order for it: 1.) FGO: First Order (Movie) 2.) FGO: Camelot Part 1 (Movie) 3.) FGO: Camelot Part 2 (Movie) 4.) FGO: Babylonia Episode 0 5.) FGO: Babylonia (21 Episodes) 6.) FGO: Solomon Fate/Grand Order itself is MASSIVE in terms of the story, characters & world building which is why there are so many anime series & movies on it already and that's without even adapting everything.

fiqlat

NGL this is one of the rare occurrences where a majority of the viewer base agrees with you guys' rant after that episode. I'm not even mad that ya'll dropping this series. I'm just more excited that Fate/Grand Order reactions are a lot closer now and is just around the corner.

fiqlat

I have to respectively disagree though. The reason why Apocrypha is such a special case is because Sieg and Ruler are literally the two main protagonists of this series. If both of them are unlikeable, it's really hard for viewers to see this series through knowing that these two are going to succeed in the end. Like they said in the discussion, they don't have too see it to know how the show ends since so far, it's being extremely predictable. And those who've watched Apocrypha to the end knows how predictable the ending was to be honest.

Ultra Power

All id like to say is in defense, it took the power of several servants to defeat 1 Karna. Even though he lost, you do have to realize Karna was massively outnumbered and still nearly nuked everything :,D Karna For Life

Norami Yuuki

yall remember when people kept saying "apocrypha is the worst fate?" so.... what now? ngl I hope you wouldn't drop the ENTIRE fate series because of this one, but if thats what you'll do, I understand it too. but to clearify about whether the others are gonna be the same, no they wont be the same. the person who wrote aporcypha is different than the one who wrote fate/stay night and fate/zero, and he's also different than the one who wrote fate/grand order. I could be mistaken about this, but I believe the person who wrote Unlimited blade works and the movies is the same one that did fate grand order, and supervises everything about it. I hope some of this information helps at least.

Long H Do

Fate oath under snow is pretty good, definitely better than apocrypha

Laude Stellarum Nocte

Fate/Apocrypha is a series that focus heavily on literary themes. You guys literally missed all of them throughout the show, I can only imagine how awful you guys are going to view Fate/Encore. The ending is trash but not because Karna lost and sieg is a trash character, but rather, because Shirou somehow manages to lose. Deus Ex Machina all day.

Sour Taste

Keep defending this all you want it isn't gonna change it being trash in my eyes. I havent dropped a show in a very very very long time so the fact that I did shows how bad this got -fax

Galvind97

well it's sad that you guys drop the show when you just had three episode to finish the show but aah well Fate/Apocrypha was considered the worst the of the series to be honest.

Vlad the Third

You're gonna miss the best fucking scene with Mordred and her master because of the Karna ish. Whack. Everyone agrees that Sieg is dogshit as an mc and Ruler is meh but many of the other characters slap hard.

Vlad the Third

And btw in the indian mythology you speak of that he can't die because of his armor he is striped of his armor and given the Brahmastra, the ultimate blow that can destroy the whole world so his noble phantasm here is accurate in that regard and actually respects the Mahabarata mythology.

Chaolao

Was it really such a bad thing to drop?? It seemed fine to me honestly. A shame, guess it's time fir me time due inside.

Knight

Did I miss an update then? I got Patreon for Fate so I would of liked to know you stopped watching the series.

Kyoto

hold up lets wait and see what fax says when that naruto ship ep happens if he hypes it up he was hating this shows animation just to hate LMAO

TheMonarch

Damn y'all become such cry babies, still fire show