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I changed my mind about the white walkers = forgetting thing. I reckon it actually fits really well with the broader themes of ASOIAF and GRRM's work. How does this sound? –

Bran says that the Night King wants to “erase this world” and bring “An endless night”. He wants to kill Bran because as the magic three-eyed raven, Bran is the world’s memory. Sam says that memory is what makes us human, and forgetting is death. Game of Thrones author George Martin is a romantic, a melancholy hippie – he’s been writing for decades about lost loves, songs and ghosts – all different echoes of the past. And that shines through in Game of Thrones. The story is about all vengeance [Arya] and grief [Catelyn] and loyalty [Brienne] and guilt [Theon], Those feelings are what make us human, and they're rooted in memories of loss and love. That's why the north remembers, why the Starks treasure the crypts of their dead, why Ned Stark and Rhaegar are still important characters even though they’re long dead. Memory makes us human, so it makes sense that the ultimate evil in this story is a metaphor for forgetting our humanity.

That said, it's all very bloody abstract. Shouldn't the Night King have a more specific motivation? There are all these hints in the books about ancient pacts, secret bloodlines, promised princes, and the show has as many spooky spirals as a Junji Ito strip [too obscure a reference]. Surely that’ll lead up to some to some big revelation about the white walkers – whether a pact or sacrifice or, hell, even a time-travel thing with Bran.

And some further speculation:

Bran says the Night King has tried to kill many other three-eyed ravens – we saw him kill the last three-eyed raven in Season 6 – and it did look like a personal grudge by the Night King. Remember, the Night King was created by the children of the forest, and he seems to hate them for creating him. In the books, it’s said that when the children die, they become part of the magic of the weirwoods. So by destroying the weirwoods and the three-eyed raven, the Night King could be deleting their souls, wiping their backup. He might even be achieving permadeath for himself – the Night King has been around for some eight thousand years – maybe destroying the three-eyed raven will free his own soul. That’s all just guesswork though – the Night King doesn’t exist in the books. Maybe we’ll learn more in the upcoming Game of Thrones prequel show.

So the challenge now is to express this concisely in the video 🙂

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Rikke Holmberg

Beautiful. And so is the reading. Such a wonderful story.

Kenny Arnold

I still feel like there has to be more to the Night King than has been revealed yet. Secrets about the long night or his connection with the Starks, etc. Sam stole books from the citadel about the long night, surely there has to be some white walker secrets in there they plan on uncovering, otherwise why would they show us him stealing the books?

WarmSeoulLights

The Night King is Mr Meeseeks confirmed. The blue skin always gave it away...

Laura Viniconis

Additionally, there are only Weirwoods in Westeros so Bran and his information superhighway only has Westerosi history? No one cares about Essos et al?

Posh Boy Jorje

I doubt anyone will be surprised to see me saying that references should always be made regardless of obscurity. Either way, I wouldn't call Junji Ito too obscure.

Alt Shift X

Naw Essos stopped existing when Daenerys left Slaver's Bay /s

Ragnar

Wait... The Night King doesn't exist in the books?! Wut? Does the White Walkers not have a dragon glass chested blue skinned scary leader in the books? Are they just a random army of dead folks going south with no leader? Is the Hardhome comeatmebruh a show thing only?

Bloody Tyrant

Yes, Bran's speculation is too general. The problem is he doesn't know where he should be looking moe specifically. Don't we anticipate a discovery by Sam in the stolen books that can point Bran into a more specific location and time for the great reveal? Their interaction at the war council could be build up for that moment?

Patrick Long

i think its fine that the motives for the white walker for killing bran is the extermination of the worlds memory but what's left to be revealed is exactly why they want to do that. Are they a super weapon which the TCOTF lost control of and the metaphor is akin to the atomic bomb (GRRM is a pacifist ) or is it purely because of the night king revenge, or is there some deeper meaning? was the night king some ancient greenseer and thats why he is so powerful, it would make sense that he therefore is able to share dreams with bran. these are the mysteries that i think still need to be resolved and would be dissapointed if they don't.

Patrick Long

i like the theory floating around that bloodraven isn't actually the 3ER in the books and that there is a separate entity that is manipulating euron and trying to manipulate bran and this character is probably the one the show has merged with the night king. The theory states that in the book the real 3ER is manipulating euron to blow the dragon horn, gain control of viserion and thats how the wall will fall in the books.

Sell The Bridge

Since we don't see the Night King in the line of Walkers at the end of E02, many have said they think he's headed to King's Landing on his dragon. If Bran and Sam are correct, my pet theory is that he's actually headed to the Citadel to burn all the written records of the 7 Kingdoms. Perhaps there are artifacts there too that he could appropriate in his quest?

Bikes, Books & Buildings

Ever since we learned of the creation of the WW and the NK, I felt the comparisons writers and critics have made to weapons of mass destruction, and global warming is incredibly fitting. I don't necessarily believe GRRM overtly intended this, but I find it resonates with how I understand the thrones universe. The children created the NK and the walkers as a massively destructive force, a perversion of nature and probably their own way of life, their own magic. They made something unholy, as an act of desperation, and this is the fallout and consequence of that. It was thousands of years ago, but it comes to bite us in the ass. Actions have consequences. I actually really love that there is this relatively simple explanation behind all of it, and in the books I have no doubt that this will be incredibly elegantly delivered and expanded upon, the simplicity and 'humanity' behind the Horrible Bad Guys as something else than an unknowable, cosmic force as a representation of all evil (LOtR).

Bikes, Books & Buildings

The books simply hasn't gotten that far into the WW lore, but it seems like it will be broadly the same, seeing as how critical the NK, his backstory and purpose is to the endgame.

Patrick Long

like i said i think i'd be completely fine if that was the metaphor GRRM was going for. however i still feel like that needs a little more fleshing out before it becomes a satisfying explanation, some more questions need to be answered. like how did they lose control? why now? did they bring the night or did the night bring them? there have been winters before now so why didn't they come then? why did they leave craster alone so long as he gave the his sons? I hope the show and books answer these questions and doesn't pull a Lost and simply say "we don't know its all a mystery".

Lethewards Sunk

The problem I had with The Night King wanting endless night and to erase death is that it doesn't chine with GRRM's comments about unreliable narrators/historians and things not being as simple as good v evil. I wouldn't put it past D&D to betray that view for the sake of spectacle, but it just seems a little too simplistic. I'm still inclined to think that the NK is there to redress the balance which was thrown off by Danny bringing dragons back into the world and that fact she's showing warning signs of taking after her father.

Patrick Long

I also thought that some balance or "pact" with the ww being breached led to their arrival. But if it was the dragons then why not come when aegon the conquerer came to westeros?

Stephanie M

The Others in the book are magical mystical fae like people. There isn’t one figurehead or leader we’ve met. There are ice zombies being amassed in the book but we see even less of them in the book than the show. We haven’t seen Hardhome at all in the books. Jon sent ships to Hardhome, but we haven’t seen it because no POV characters are there. So yeah the comeatmebruh Hardhome is show only.

Stephanie M

The show canon has definitely confirmed that the White Walkers and Night King are CotF weapons gone rogue and out to destroy their creators. “The Night King was a First Man who was captured by a tribe of the Children of the Forest. Leaf, who was among the group, pressed a dragonglass dagger into his chest, causing his eyes to turn blue and turning him into the first of the White Walkers. Thousands of years later, Leaf tells Bran Stark that her people created the White Walkers to defend themselves when Westeros was invaded by the First Men, who were cutting their sacred trees down and slaughtering the Children of the Forest. However, the White Walkers soon turned on their creators and began what was known as the Long Night.” That big chunk of quote is from the show wiki. I don’t think it will get more explicit than that. Bran (as the 3ER) and the weirwood net is all that is left of the CotF and their magic. That seems like his goals, destroy the weirwoodnet and all of humanity. I do wonder if it is just revenge or the only way he will ever die too though. I’m still leaning toward Jon taking up the NK’s mantle in exchange for peace so OG NK can finally die after 10,000 years.

Stephanie M

The show canon already confirmed the NK caused the Long Night in retaliation against the CotF. I don’t think we’ll get more than that until HBO does their prequel show. They’re covering that era in it.

Stephanie M

Damn. It was so obvious all along.

Stephanie M

Don’t worry, HBO will tackle the white walker threat over in Essos and the theta symbol in one of their next twenty spin offs (;

Patrick Long

i don't know why but it does feel a little unsatisfying. I guess that means we won't get much more of explanation than that.

Paul Barry

Though in the books and show R’hllorists believe there is the ‘Great Other’ - a religious deity eternally at war with R’hllor. In some ways, the Night King could perhaps be viewed as a physical manifestation of the Great Other.

Lethewards Sunk

Aegon arguably brought order. My thought was that the combo of destruction from the war of the five kings followed by a dragon-bearing queen with a tendency to burn those who challenged her means a greater threat/imbalance of power. Not perfect a theory, but I just can't buy that GRRM has created a one dimension evil villian. Then again, I guess he didn't create the NK per the show.

Kelly Theobald

Psst, Alt! If you haven’t seen this, Adva did a really spectacular video about some of the character arcs, and whether they are resolved enough for that character to die/what is needed for the arc to be complete. It is really amazing! I highly recommend! (And im not just saying that because it’s Adva—it is seriously good!) <a href="https://youtu.be/SUFxptheEAU" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://youtu.be/SUFxptheEAU</a>

Joy Cioci

“In the citadel we live different lives for different reasons, We are this worlds memory Samwell Tarly. Without us men would be little better than dogs, don’t remember any meal but the last, can’t see forward to any meal but the next.” If the night king wants to destroy bran because he’s this worlds memory.. wouldn’t the night king go to the citadel as well to destroy it?? And then all the living Maseters and all books and documents? Paintings and symbols on the stones, trees and caves? What bran said doesn’t make sense and seems quite impossible as he isn’t the only memory of man. I feel like it’s almost the reserve and the night king wants to show the world of man how evil it is so that it does remember, remember that because of them he was created.... the north always says... “The North Remembers” but actually the north forgot!