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HOTD S1E07 livestream (Patreon)

Published:
2022-10-03 05:42:19
Edited:
2022-10-03 10:19:16
Imported:
2026-06

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(Edit: replaced the livestream with an edited version to remove a mistake)

Here's the new livestream! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWoP-y9LE2k 

What did you think of the episode, and what questions do you want discussed in the Explained video?

Thanks for your support!

Links: Alt Shift X YouTube, Podcast, Audio Podcast, Twitter, Patron Discord. (Connect Discord to Patreon).

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Discussing House of the Dragon Episode 7! This stream has no spoilers for House of the Dragon beyond S1E07. (Except for the quick spoiler zone at the end of the stream). It does have spoilers for the original Game of Thrones show. This is a reupload, with a mistake removed. The original livestream is here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCBR0o0JMBo Subscribe: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCveZqqGewoyPiacooywP5Ig?sub_confirmation=1 Support on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/AltShiftX Twitter: https://twitter.com/altshiftx Merch: https://standard.tv/altshiftx Alt Shift X Podcast: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCWW6C71HUEN5iBuX8qq5xxw Alt Shift X audio feed: https://anchor.fm/alt-shift-zzz Stream donations/questions: https://streamlabs.com/altshiftx Discord: https://discord.gg/2CBtfNj Weekly livestreams every Sunday at ~10:15pm Eastern Time, right after each episode of HOTD. Then an Explained video later in the week, summarising and analysing each episode.

Comments

Autumn

Oh, man. I hope we get a really macabre Criston-Alicent-Larys love triangle next season. That would make for some unforgettable television. Even if we overlook all the contrivances and plot holes from a book reader’s perspective, Laenor is a pretty terrible person for putting his parents, sons, and nieces through that. And in fairness to D&D, Laenor’s escape would be getting ripped to shreds if they wrote it. It also feels like they really chickened out on a chance to make Rhaenyra morally grey, even if only by turning a blind eye to Daemon doing the deed. It feels like all the effort they put into making Alicent sympathetic and Rhaenyra ambiguous at the beginning of the season has been washed away. If they’re going for the grooming angle with Rhaenyra and Daemon, then this episode sold that well. Rhaenyra sounded like a little kid, still clinging to their tryst from a decade ago and almost begging him to love her. Daemon doesn’t seem capable of loving anyone, except for maybe Viserys, not even his own daughters (he was remarkably unbothered by Aemond punching his daughter in the face). Their children unhappily watching their wedding ceremony, all dressed in black, made for quite an ominous sight.

Astro FTC

Alt, I joined your Patreon because I've gotten a lot out of your videos, but also specifically so I make sure you see this comment about Laenor's escape. It would mean a lot to me and a lot of queer people if you mention the "Kill Your Gays" trope in your explainer video. Here's my comment: Thank gods they didn't kill another gay. especially by the hand of his own lover. It's a tired trope in both fiction and history written by homophobic cultures that perpetuates the stereotype that queer people are inherently broken and deserve tragic endings. And also it's just boring at this point, so it's refreshing. As a gay dude myself who grew up with a lot of religious homophobia, I was genuinely so touched when Laenor is shaming himself for being gay and Rhaenyra is like "no, there's nothing wrong with you, you're actually really special," which means so much to me to see on a big mainstream show like this. I'm glad GRRM and the show creators are being thoughtful about this stuff. Queer people have always existed, but their stories, especially the happy ones are almost never written down. HoT D is fantasy, but it does remind me that people like me have happy endings, even in times and cultures where they weren't allowed to.

The Wardeness

I think there is enough ambiguity in the dialogue, and enough security in our sense of Rhaenyra, her relationships, to think that she was in on, if not architect of, Laenor’s “death”. Freedom. Commitment to private contracts, trying to make that commitment good along with public contracts, duties. Recognizing the incommersurability. Laenor’s words of commitment to Rhaenyra are heartbreaking, because they are offered in grief to another in grief, and because that is how Rhaenyra and Laenor love each other. Acts of duty while aware of one another’s grief. I think she let him flee the storm. She decided to let him escape duty, at the chance of being free. Taking the political blow. Spares the white stag, rather than forcing it to be a symbolic source of power. Sge instead seeks other means, abruptly, in grief…

Anke McKay

I think was most people are forgetting is that Alicent is not just demanding an eye from a child but from her grandchild through marriage. Also playing into the prophesy of the blade, Rhaenyra stepped into Alicent's path knowing she could die, she was ready to sacrifice herself for her children.

Kelly Theobald

This is a beautiful comment, thanks for sharing 💜

Kelly Theobald

I liked this much better than last ep. Some of the gaps (Laenor/Rhaenyra) got filled in a little. But ugh my girl Alicent spiraling 😩 I feel like some really great drama is set up, so I’m excited!

Natalie Watson

The bit with Corlys and Rhaenys was really interesting to me. On one hand, it speaks to the importance and validity of adopted family. Corlys knows full well what blood runs in those boys veins, but blood doesn't matter. He knows that his son made his choice about his kids, wither he told him or not, and accepts it. He accepts those boys and he loves them. He chooses to love them. In a world obsessed with blood, he's showing that bonds and relationships matter just as much, if not more. Adopted children deserve the same place, love and respect as birth children. It's a lesson that many parts of this world could do with learning as well. On the other side of it, it also shows the ingrained mysogony in place in this world. Women aren't allowed to have their own names, only the names of their fathers and husbands. They can't have their own legacies, they can only contribute to the legacies of the men around them. Baela doesn't have Corlys' name, she has her father's name. She can only push forward his legacy, not Corlys'. It shows a hypocrisy in Corlys, because by pushing for Rhaenys to be queen, he's really pushing for himself to be king and for House Velaryon to be the big name in Westeros. If she had ascended, she would be followed by King Laenor Velaryon, not Laenor Targareyon (or even Queen Laena since we don't know which twin was born first). He wants his legacy to be having his house be the ruling name in the kingdom. It's not about Rhaenys rights, it's about his ambitions. It shows that, in the end, Corlys isn't really any more progressive or open minded than any of the other lords of Westeros, he's just taking a different path that, he hopes, will reach the same desired outcome of every other man in this world. His name in metaphorical blinding lights on the Iron Throne. So he backs the boys with the name and not the girls with the blood, just like what happened to Rhaenys at the great council. On a side note that's partly why I'm more of a black than a green. Although Rhaenyra has some serious flaws and Alicent is just a broken product of this vicious system, I would rather back someone who is at least trying to create their own legacy. Alicent isn't pushing for her own legacy or even for that of her son's. She's pushing for her father's, even if she doesn't realize it. King Aegon would be Otto Hightowers dream legacy come true, and he'd probably push his daughter to one side if it ever came to be.