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BewearKing64

I dunno man. While it's true that they might have had faith in the government. They should have realized that there would be repercussions to their actions what they did was still illegal at the end of the day. Feel so bad for Robin that she's had that trauma with her all of her life with her mother going away and then the island getting bombed and everything. She experienced all of that as a kid.

Lightinger

Alicia has no faith in Oda smh my head.

Coolfun1234e

U might be right but at the same time we see frankly and he’s family look at the blue print so honestly it’s gotta be an actual weapon based of there expression

Ebofa

I can´t help but think of Bellemere when I see Olvia first try to lie about Robin being her daughter. Two very different, but also alike situations.

Okoga

-Gets sad- One Piece: But wait, theeeeeeeeres more! -Stays sad-

mustofolys

Olivia isn't as bad as Yassop(Ussops dad), she left Robin in the care of her aunt. Yassop left his son and sick wife with just the doctor to take care of them. Both are deadbeats I just feel like you're underestimating how bad Yassop was.

Ham

Sometimes I feel like Alicia isn't getting that [REDACTED] is actually really bad. Buuuuuuuuuut, in her defense she hasn't read over 1,100 chapters of OP as I have. So I hope everyone tries to take it easy and remembers that there is a lot of information that we are privy to but she isn't. NOTE: Chose to use [REDACTED] to avoid the possibility of spoiling Alicia. I hope that is sufficient. I'm not even sure it is considered a spoiler but I'm gonna be safe anyways.

lionstooth

I agree, i think they didnt realize how hard the gov would go on this, there wasnt any known precident of this happening before to my and their knowledge atleast. I also think killing everyone is also the pragmatic choice aswell, we can talk about morality but lets give the WG benefit of the doubt and say the information they're locking away is terrible and could ultimately bring harm to the world; in that case the choice is obvious while terrible.

Liliwyn

Oda is definitely the type of writer who is more concerned with coming up with things he wants to happen than he is making sure that those events are always driven by consistent and reasonable character behavior. Don't get me wrong, he's peerless at character-driven worldbuilding, but there are definitely some shortcomings in his particular style of writing. Very few people will generally comment on that, however, because, even at his worst, Oda is still eclipsing the best-case writing of many other shonen series that'd aired at a similar time, like the trite contrivance of Bleach's "Ichigo is just all of the things," or the inane approach to character motivations in Naruto. Oda's writing is more concerned with "what happens" than "why," and it really shows in how the "why" sometimes feels like it was slapped together after having decided on the "what." In the case of backstories, it's usually "what would be the saddest possible thing," and then, from there, it doesn't really matter how much the idiot ball or insane coincidence might be invoked to get from A to B. Sure, there's often a pretty solid explanation for *most* things, as it's not like he *isn't* a skilled writer. But he simply doesn't care nearly as much about connecting the dots as he does plotting them out. Oda is fantastic at surrounding characters with meaningful *events*. But that shouldn't be mistaken for having the best character *writing*. He *characterizes* them well, with plenty of distinctive habits, traits, behavior, and even dynamics (an oft-neglected part of character-building), but... things mostly just -happen-, with character motives used to hastily justify them after the fact, rather than considering how reasonable a decision might actually be. The result is a story that has a MASSIVE amount of emotional *punch*, to be sure. And it's wild how many interconnected points there are within the wider world of One Piece, and its grand map of events. But... character writing will all-too-often get reduced to "this'd be cool/fun/sad, so this is what they'll do," rather than always considering how they'd think and feel more directly. It's not that this is *always* a problem, mind. Just that, over the course of something as long as One Piece, you start to pick up on it. Anyways! Glad to see someone else noticed one of the only things that really bugs me much about Oda's writing (other than the sometimes-blatant sexism stuff that's unfortunately basically endemic to shonen anime, in particular-- not that I mind fanservice, to be fair, but it can be pretty dang *uncomfortable* when used thoughtlessly). I love the world of One Piece, it's stories and themes, and almost all of its characters... but I hate that they will sometimes create this weird sense of dissonance "for the sake of a scene." Easiest example: in Jaya, Luffy doesn't fight Bellamy just to replicate the scene with Shanks at the bar. Which would be reasonable if, like with Shanks' case, it was just some insults and spilt drinks, or the like. Or even violence that wouldn't affect Luffy, as a rubberman. But things instead go so over-the-top as to be far beyond that context, with a *friend* of Luffy's being similarly beaten up (Zoro), and another being mocked and insulted (Nami). Both things Luffy'd kick someone's teeth in, on any other day, because his whole thing is that nakama are hella important to him. Buuuuut Oda decided that that scene needed to happen *now*, and then handwaved the differences and inconsistencies just to be able to look back and be like "see! It's like the thing!" It's a great moment, to be sure, but it suddenly starts to feel weird and inconsistent if you ever ask "but why, though." And I'm not saying that it's -out of character-, to be clear. Just that it doesn't quiiiite feel "finished." But anyways. Oh, and I also wanted to mention that cultural perspectives on childcare can be pretty horrifying, to an outside perspective. Certain forms of abuse and neglect are so normalized as to not even register as problematic, and being irresponsible or neglectful is often justified or excused in some way or another... despite that, on the flipside, a woman who isn't available 24/7 would be seen as unfit to be a mother, so things like babysitters don't generally exist. And then there's the fact that "respect for one's parents," as a cultural value, tends to eclipse any notion of the importance of a kid's emotional happiness or mental health... or rather, Japan, as a whole, basically tries to act like mental health and abuse doesn't exist, in general. It's all a very toxic and suppressive form of collectivist "no matter what, do not stand out." Which is a shame, because there *are* positive sides to many Japanese parents that then get buried beneath those problems, like how they're much less likely to try and solve problems or correct behavior by shouting at children. Unfortunately, this is also where some of my own bias shows, as an outsider just doesn't hear nearly as much as the positives as the negatives. Either way, my point is just that "from what I've observed, parents seem to be very all-or-nothing in mindset, of either they give up EVERYTHING for their kids, or give up on being a parent entirely to pursue their career, or whatever, as if that's somehow a noble pursuit." As that more or less mirrors the stereotypical Japanese family structure of "a dad who works double shifts to support a stay-at-home mom who cooks and cleans, manages finances, and raises the children." ...I originally had a brief sentiment to share, that basically just boiled down to "don't worry, Alicia! Full agree on this shiz-- speak your truth, girl!" But then I got to a-ramblin'. Ah well. Point is just that it's NOT just you, Alicia! Plenty of little things like that bug me, as well, about Oda's writing, despite how much I otherwise love One Piece. Totally valid! Don't let the cringe hate from media subliterate fanboys get'cha down! The fact that you don't just blindly cheer when the writing is weaker makes things SO much more interesting to watch! Like how you speak only TRUTH about how Skypeia draaaaaaaaaagged. But anyways! Back to watching more-- I've been paused at 19:43 for like an hour, now, lol. Too hyped about us finally getting to Robin's backstory. Aaaand also trying to stall, because THE FEELS. UUURRRRGGGHHH... But anyway! Onwards!

james blaire

YOW! that hurt the feels watching the second time lmao oh the feels hittin

Yagi di Hoshi

Alicia, I am soo happy that you just called the writing of this one out here. OP literally changed my life, permanently. but it there's quite a few moments that have come up over time where i'm going "huh?" just more & more

V_VMat

Tree of Knowledge is definitely based on the Library of Alexandria, considering they both burned down! Also, depression. These flashbacks are BRUTAL.

Draconic

alicia, olvia didnt just leave robin because of the history she wanted to uncover, it also had to do with her husband's wishes. Also, its never said in the manga or anime but in the manga's SBS Corner its said that the agent with red-tinted glasses next to Spandine is Kalifa's father, making her a family business agent.

V_VMat

Though one thing that I started to wonder while watching was; why was it "necessary" for Olvia to stay back with the other scholars, couldn't she (try to) escape with Robin instead??

DaniDeFig

Thank you for going through this heart-breaking *mess* with us Alicia.

Liesmith

Oda might not like killing characters, but he *loves* killing the audience's souls.

Silver Blade

Oda really be "gotta tip toe around killing characters in the active story" and at the same time "in flashbacks, you know what would be the most fucked up thing ever?"

Silver Blade

16:30 I mean... technically no one in O'hara know what a Buster call is at this point. they didn't know the whole island was at stake, they thought only the books and scholars and MAYBE people who seem connected were in danger...

Gurth-Quake

Why does it feel like every episode lately, I'm saying into the screen, "don't worry, it gets worse"?