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Gravity Falls 2x17

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Sam Marsh

Let WEIRDMAGEDDON commence!!

TheMaskedOne

This was probably the lowest point in Mabel's life so her going back to old negative traits is fair enough. Plus, if she had known what it was she would never give it away. Personally, I think the blame lies on Ford since it was his paranoia that led him to not telling anyone besides Dipper what it was and it is kinda f-ed up for him to take on a child as his assistant which is what led to said low point. No matter how smart Dipper is he's still a twelve year old and it's wrong to take him away from his family, friends and the experience of growing up.

Curtis Murphy

To think, if Dipper had just trusted Mabel like he had all summer and told her about the rift, this wouldn't have happened. Not blaming Dipper btw. Ford pushed his own problems with trust onto Dipper casuing him not to tell Mabel important information.

Curtis Murphy

I do also like the juxtapositoon between Mabel and Dipper. Mabel, not wanting to grow up and Dipper wanting to grow up to fast.

Klaytor

oh hey its dipper and mabels birthday today

SwiggSwootBoot

SPOILERS FOR BOOK OF BILL: —————————— —————————— —————————— —————————— Since you keep asking about Dipper and Mabel’s parents and their situation, it should be said that in a recent book written by Alex Hirsch, it’s heavily implied that their parents are getting a divorce, hence why they sent them away for the summer with no contact. This would explain why the kids aren’t close with their parents and probably why they never call. It would also make Mabel’s situation far worse, as she would be losing her friends, her brother, and dealing with split parents while going through high school.

Blooocki :3

I recently saw a comparison between She-Ra and adult Ben Tennison and now I can't unsee She-Ra being Ben cosplaying/crossdressing :|

Marion Ette

Like someone else mentioned here, the answers to your questions about Dipper and Mabel's parents can be found in the recently released "Book of Bill". I literally have a copy myself. Still saving up for a Blacklight Edition of Journal 3 on eBay, where it's revealed that Bill planned to throw Dipper's body off the top of the watertower in the sock puppet episode after destroying the Journal and ruining Mabel's play.

Easy Mode - A.I

the episode where mabel becomes worst girl

Easy Mode - A.I

(。´・д・) me as a twin listening to Alicia the non-twin speaking about twins

Kallows

Okay I feel like I need to say this but remember that Mabel is 12, in a current state of distress, and being actively manipulated when she made that decision so I don’t believe it’s fair to call her selfish here.

Gildarts1#fan

Someone tell Alicia she needs to watch the opening for the next few episodes.

M

So it's heavily implied that their parents are going through a divorce based on some details written in the real journals and the new Bill's Book, which is the real reason they were sent away for the summer. So the parents could work out what they're going to do.

WhopsInc.

12 Year old girl does something out of character while going through the worst day of her life, getting actively manipulated, and will have to go back to, a possibly broken, home without their only support. A lot of the fans: "WORST CHARACTER"

DBZfangirl318

No here is where fans are split about Mabel. How she was being selfish, how she should have been more supportive about Dipper leaving. And how she shouldn't have have Blendin/Bill the rift. Now in my opinion Ford is just as responsible as Mabel. Ford told Dipper to not tell Mabel about the rift. Had she known how important it was she never would have given it to Bill.

Sam Smith

26:40 that is so true. My best friend in high-school was such a happy and sweet girl and I watched as she was broken down during that 4 years. I hated seeing it but I wasn't really emotionally intelligent enough to help the way she needed. Ugh if I could go back I wouldn't care about consequences and I'd give the girl that bullied her the carry treatment!

Mitch Gates

Your talk about siblings being dependant on each other when the parents are going through some stuff hit hard for me. Having my parents divorced at a young age sucked and being the oldest meant I had to look after my sisters (because after me, it was just 4 consecutive sisters until my 2 little brothers were born) a lot. Miiight explain why I'm so close with all of them, especially my youngest sister. But yeah, really made me realize that we became dependant on each other and why we're all so close.

Sketchy0w0

Was this reaction dropping on their birthday planned?

Prince of the Saiyans

I can’t blame Mable. She had hit a low emotionally and knew Blendin could be trusted. She was in the dark about the rift because of ford and she didn’t know what it did.

Sam Marsh

When this episode came out a lot of the fandom were upset with Mabel for giving the rift to Bill, but I just want to point out that this was in no way her fault. Dipper and Ford kept the truth about the rift from her, so she had no idea how important it was (as far as she knew, it was just an extravagant snow globe). She never would have given it over if she had been informed of its significance. Not to mention she was in a highly fragile emotional state that made her easy prey for a skilled manipulator like Bill.

Malcolm Ferguson

So, here’s my take: In my opinion, Ford shouldn't have been so secretive about the Rift. To be clear, I think Ford was right to want to keep the Rift a secret, as anyone could be possessed by Bill, however I think he was wrong to not let Mabel and Stan in on it. If Mabel had known what the Rift was, she never would have given it to “Blendin”. On top of that… I feel like Ford’s reasons for telling Dipper not to tell Mabel, as well as taking him on as an apprentice, are as personal as they are pragmatic. Ford clearly has unresolved issues with Stan, and I think he’s subconsciously projecting those issues onto Dipper. That's why he says it must be "suffocating" to always live with one's twin. Ultimately Ford means well, but I think he’s letting his personal feelings about Stan cloud his judgement, and it’s poisoning the relationship between Dipper & Mabel.

AbsurdToastling

Fun fact... after Ford mentions studying the alien language with McGucket, and Dipper takes a picture in front of some of it, it's actually a cipher that can be (and was!) solved by fans. It makes mention of an "Improbability Device", which while also being a reference to Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, may give an answer to Ford's question about whether the UFO caused Gravity Falls' weirdness or if its weirdness caused the UFO to crash there.

ً

Mabel didn't really know that handing the thing would be the end of the world

Munir

The intro thing is just b/c they played a shortened version for some of the final episodes. Also considering Dipper's parents left him with (who they thought was) Stanford for the entire summer with no contact, maybe they would be thrilled to leave his education up to him.

Chelly

Unfortunately when you’re feeling alone and scared, being selfish is a pretty normal thing… especially as a kid. I do think Mabel was doing better, but this experience made her regress a lot. Only one person can talk her out of it now…

Tigerguy

When you talked about Mabel and Dipper's parents about all that, I was thinking that Mabel is talking about the only thing that she gets to bring home from Gravity Falls is Dipper, he is the only thing from the summer that is going home with her.

Alicia Barkley

NO ONE TOLD MABLE ABOUT THE RIFT HOW THE HELL WAS SHE SUPPOSED TO HAVE KNOWN!? The same thing happened with Ford! He was tricked into almost destroying the world! Yet it's not okay for Maybel who doesn't have any clue of the gravity of the situation???

Lynn

The Book of Bill gave us the lil' tidbit that one of Dipper's recurring nightmares is reliving an argument he accidentally overheard his parents having before sending them off for the summer, so yeah, these kids come from a broken home if that wasn't already obvious enough. They're likely ending the summer by coming home to a "Hey kiddos, we need to talk about your mom and I..."

BakaSama

Welcome to Weirdmageddon. There are no seatbelts and you are free to have your arms outside the car to flail about in helplessness, madness and horror. Enjoy!

Jackal Sniper

Here we go... Only 3 episodes left

Oni1992

Be prepared to find out why the most common joke at the time for the last three episodes was that Alex Hirsch finally managed to kill the censors.

ELS_Art

As someone who grew up in a toxic family environment I one thousand percent disagree with you Alicia. Some time you just gotta say “Fuck what they want” and do your own thing. Just because they are family doesn’t mean there are some manipulative ass people out there that don’t give a shit if your family they will use your ass for all your worth and then be pissy when you tell them you can’t help them anymore. Sometimes family sucks and just cause you share blood with them does not mean you owe them anything, at the end of the day your own mental health and own wellbeing are more important than making everyone happy, even if they are family.

Fejk Namn

I feel like Ford's plan for Dipper is more than a little flawed... Dipper is smart, and sure, he would probably learn a LOT from his gruncle Ford... things that he could learn later, like in college. The things he struggles the most with, such as social aspects of life, are NOT what Ford seems good at, and missing high school would not help matters. Plus, as Alicia mentioned, Ford does not really work as credentials, and for all his PHD's, I doubt he would make for a great teacher, there's more to being a teacher than knowing the subject. I'm sure he would be a good person to contact if something in school stumps Dipper though, like, asking him to explain something math-related or such.

Nopoleon Y

god forbid an emotional 12 year old that feels alone and like her whole life is falling apart has a moment of weakness of giving away a fancy snow globe that's not hers to a trusted friend that's promising it will solve all her issues

pinky

So about the glass door thing i recommend being extremely careful if you have small children. I almost lost half my face as a child because of a glass door because i ran straight through the door. And I've also met multiple people who as child had some injury related to glass doors. It's an absolute safety hazard. Injuries caused by glass doors are really common among children. I mentioned this because Alicia repeatedly mentioned that she wants children, and better safe then sorry.

Seraphem

Yeah... this is understandable given everything that happened today.... it's that this is just the latest in a long series of Mabel doing selfish things that makes it feel so bad.

MarakamiSG

The expanded lore in the Book of Bill explains so much about Mabel's reaction

DBZfangirl318

There was this girl I was friends with since kindergarten but as soon as we go into the 6th grade she started hanging out with these popular girls. One day during P.E. they all came up to me and called me a pest and that I should stop hanging out with her. We stopped being friends that day and I have never heard from her again.

James Fernandez

I think the running theory for the parents was that they were going through relationship issues and were considering divorce so they sent Mable and dipper away so they wouldn’t have see it happen

Daisy Azuras

Where is this community tab poll for the next series that she watches. I searched YouTube. I searched on here. I can’t find it.

jahschwa

"They don't give a fuck about the education you learned" welp, glad I ended up unusual in that regard, then. Though honestly I don't think that's as rare an occurrence as you make it out to be.

Darc Hart94

This has lead to things that make Mabel my most disliked character in the show. Selfish all the way to the end

Fei Ashtear

I used to be way more upset at Mabel. But now that I have nieces around that age, nah. Selfish, gullible, and short sighted is pretty on point.