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Straw Hat 673+674 (Patreon)

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2024-10-07 10:50:41
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free my boy soup from this writing!! HE DESERVES BETTER

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Gamer Kane

From this point on there is no more bad, the worst of this arc is behind us and the rest is gold.

Jimmy Recinos

I think Ussop saying all that bc we all know when he lies it sometimes happens like the gold fish.

Kara

I believe in a miracle, I believe in god usopp and so must you

Jack Queen

I do think this is a misjudgement from Oda for Usopps character. He's human, he's allowed them. But honestly it wasn't Usopp's cowardice that annoyed me, it was him being so unsympathetic that felt out of character. Usopp is always scared, everytime. The reason we love him is because he stands up, sometimes eventually but still, and fights in the end. He did that here too, but it was different because of his unwarranted callousness towards the dwarves. He was fine with them dying. And I get it, they're not friends, but I feel like Usopp would care normally a lot more.

sixfish11

Moments like this is when you truly see how ass the pacing of dressrosa in the anime is. Everything involving Usopp from the past 3 episodes could have been 1 episode.

Gurth-Quake

Ok, usopp's internal monologue is him trying to justify to himself for his running away. Trebol is much stronger than anything he's been against so far. He watched the tontattas get annihilated which he knows are piwerful af. He's gonna be scared shitless. He didn't change, he just became stronger. He stays within the bounds of his limits. This is the point any actual change happens.

Milo

Alicia getting mad at Usopp is like how haters get mad at Alicia a great parallel!

Seraphem

Yeah, this whole bit with Ussop is... I get the idea but the execution wasn't the best, the Anime stretching it out even longer really did not help it. But, that is in the past now.

Speed1247

One explanation I like is that when Robin was turned into a toy the character of sogeking ceased to exist as he only was there because of the need to rescue Robin so his character development fell back a bit due to that. (This is probably just a way to excuse his behavior and make it less annoying)

Easy Mode - A.I

keep in mind if it wasn't for ussop and then franky, robin would of been DEAD in the past

james blaire

i did forget but he really tried to pull through for zoro and shot a admiral and that was post time skip, while in front of him too now that i remember, well i threw in my 2 cents lol

Sean A. Crofts

Next pair of episodes Alicia will bear witness to….’The Miracle’.

TheRoguelock

I won't sugarcoat anything here, most of the major parts of this are in the manga. Usopp does run, he does say the part about "writing a book about them", and he does come back when he starts hearing them crying out about believing in him and getting squished just after. The anime DEFINITELY stretches out the moments in between, which can make it feel more frustrating, but the stuff is still there. As someone who didn't have Usopp as their favorite, or even their worst (I like all the Straw Hats, though Luffy is definitely my fave), it was hard to read this. I definitely get the growth he's had, and this does feel like a backslide. That said, I think it is important to his character. This was Usopp's up close and personal look at the terror of the New World. The closest he got before this was having Ceasar pop up on Punk Hazard, and he wasn't as intimidating, or even do anything as scary as what Trebol did here in front of Usopp. Before that he fought a single Fish-Man, and he had a whole plan for that. Usopp was already afraid of even going against Doflamingo in the first place, so he quickly goes into "Oh shit, I'm in over my head, I need to get the hell out of here," like we saw back near the beginning of the series. This moment is his first real test of conviction since reaffirming he wanted to get stronger and be brave. Can't say he really passed with flying colors here (if you can consider him passing at all, that's up to you), but growth isn't linear.

Logan Baxter

Alicia's take felt off to me as a manga reader, so I went back and reread these chapters, and this is really an anime problem. Usopp doesn't stand by and watch them get exploded (twice, it does happen once) or boulder squashed. We also don't get anywhere near the amount of his inner monologue. Manga usopp is only looking for the lift and complaining that franky hasn't blown through the front gate. Like another commenter said, this whole sequence could have been an episode as opposed to nearly 3.

Koga Wolfe

Can't remember exactly what I was feeling back when I first watched this, but I don't think I ever stopped believing in Usopp. You know he'll do the right thing, even if he runs away first. And the long drawn out pacing just makes it even more satisfying when he does do something.

Faroth

He will become valuable... very, very, VERY valuable 😅😅😅🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂

Alexander1048

This is why you should have started one pace after the time skip

Faroth

Alicia: did ussop forgot all he did in enies lobby?! I mean, yeah, that was for robin, and just forgot robin, so... yeah, he forgot all that development, which is why he is running like before the timeskip, and in top of that, trebol is a monster to the level of the monster trio, too much for him and can shoot at range too like him with a great precision, so he is afraid of that too, yeah... i mean, yeah, coward, but with reasons

Aaron

Thank you

Calib Allen

We getting spoiled with Alicia one piece reactions

Adrian

The undergound dressrose plot is almost universally agreed to be the worst canon one peice plot due to what happened with Usopp so you're not alone alicia. (Don't despair Usopp gets another moment in this arc to heal the character a bit).

Lonnie Guillory

I feel like when people believe that ussop could have contributed they are really underselling Trebol. He is basically doffys equivalent to zoro or sanji he might be on his bullshit but Trebol is actually fairly strong

Shrapnel

There is a love/hate/love relationship with Dressrosa. You have reached the bell curve of the low. Once other things happen, it gets WAAAY better.

marlanes

in the manga, usopps internal struggle wasn't nearly as lengthy. toei definitely stretched these panels out way to much.

docrubente

The thing about this set of episodes is that while the pattern of usopp's fights from a narrative standpoint match this scenario, (i.e. He chickens out, reckons with the consequences of his actions, comes back and tries to fight in earnest, faces karmic retribution for his cowardice, and eventually comes out on top), Toei did such an awful job of portraying his character here in a way that highlights his evolution from Arlong Park to now. And the argument could be made that the stakes have never been this high for him, so he is crumbling under pressure, but his turnaround was still way too drawn out to be digestible.

Nopoleon Y

Ngl he is literally braver in his very introduction than here. Especially in the stretched out toei version. He was definitely way out of his depth, i think you much underestimate just how little of a chance against trebol he had, but Oda definitely overdid what he was doing here. Especially the morbid shit he was saying

Taran

Toei really did a horrible job stretching out Usopp's cowardness and making it even worse. Oda also didn't do a great job writing this part but it wasn't nearly as bad as the anime. Alicia talks about Usopp in Enies Lobby but I think the problem is that Oda and the anime did a horrible job showing that when Robin was turned into a toy those experiences centered around her would have been erased or altered in Usopp's mind. That could easily explain the regression and why Usopp reverted into a bigger coward than normal. Oda frankly should have had Robin be turned into a toy at the beginning of the operation and made it clear that it altered Usopp's mind erasing some of the experiences that allowed him to grow.

Duckerino

As someone watching these arcs for the first time through your reactions... Usopp's writing has to be attempted character assassination, there's no way he's this badly written what happened???? Edit after finishing the reaction: Everything at the end was great... But why did we have to go through this shit damn.

Egregore

To be fair, until now Usopp has mostly been fighting nameless goons and comedic-relief underlings. This is the first time he had to seriously fight genuinely threatening main villains where he isn’t being backed up by one of the three main fighters. Also even among his few serious fights against people who were way stronger than him he was usually either forced to by circumstance or was trying to protect a close friend.

Okoga

The anime makes this worse by stretching it out, but the issue is still there.

SomeoneElse

People get frustrated at Usopp here because: 1. Toei pacing 2. Misunderstanding his character Usopp has no power and never claimed to be a hero. He's a friend and along for the ride with the crew, hence why he stuck with us after Water 7 instead of staying behind, but having forgotten about Robin's very existence in this moment, he lost his reason for being there (to fight with the crew), so he ran away. Usopp had to pull a 180 on his whole character to make the decision to fight for the Tontattas, against two very powerful opponents, without a crewmember there and without a power himself. Guilt took over and pushed him through his fear to do what he actually wanted to do and in the end he proved that deep down he can be a fighter when push comes to shove. Amongst a crew of freakishly powerful people, he is a regular ass person, which means it takes FAR more courage to engage in battles like this than it would for someone like Luffy or Zoro. He has a right to be afraid and to fight without expectation and deserves some credit 🔥

Perfect Yarn

People try to say that forgetting Robin reverted all his character development, but that's honestly just BS. I won't say it didn't partially set him back but most of his character development in Enies Lobby/Water 7 was more related to Luffy anyways. So yes it IS just bad writing for his character.

Robert C. Taylor

I totally understand the frustration but personally I’m okay with Usopp being scared and running. Yeah I get it, people want him to be different now and to not be the scared person he used to be but he’s still Usopp at the end of the day. He’s going to have a moment of weakness before moving past that and being brave

DaniDeFig

The frustrations with Usopp here are super understandable. I don't remember reacting much different when reading these chapters. I can *sort of* see what Oda was going for here, including the suggested memory loss, but DAMN is the execution fumbled! It wasn't a very good idea nor a necessary story beat. Could definitely have used another couple of look-overs to delete or re-write most of this part.

JoJo

Thought I'm frustrated, I get him running away cause he forgot robin existed and that's where he was at his bravest

Alpha76

Yeah they did usopp dirty in this part, the fact that it took the tontatta getting blown up twice, smooshed and forgetting about robin for him to actually do something is disappointing, makes it feel like all his progression up till now meant nothing, atleast he redeems himself but man this is one of the more disappointing moments for usopp.

I'm following way too many nsfw accounts to use a name here

I do agree that the anime made the Usopp part worse than the manga, but I hate how everyone is hating on Usopp. He not at a single point in the canon has made the choice to attack someone when he wasn't defending his friends up to this point. From his home town to right this arc right here, NOT ONCE. He is always been defending someone in the crew, attempting to save them or saving himself to fight. The ONE fight where he wasn't afraid was Fishman Island, where he was far stronger than who he was fighting. HE HAS CHANGED, BUT THIS FIGHT ISN'T ANYTHING LIKE THE PAST ONES. He is significantly weaker than Sugar and Trebol. He has no friends to save here (that he knew of, memory loss) and he didn't pick this fight himself. THIS IS THE TURNING POINT FOR HIM! THIS IS THE CHARACTER ARC! This is when he finally goes to fight someone for HIS DREAM against someone who he has NO CHANCE TO WIN AGAINST. Zero, none, nada. And as this arc shows, he didn't win. He lost. And his dream isn't to be "the bravest warrior." It was to be *A* brave warrior of the seas. Not the bravest, not even fearless, just a brave warrior. If he had fought against Trebol right there, he could just as well sail back home, because his dream would have been complete. He would have picked the hardest fight on the whole island. Not a single strength difference in a fight was as great as him vs Trebol and Sugar. That would have been the bravest choice made in the series. Luffy was closer in strength to admirals before Water 7 than Usopp is to Trebol and Sugar together. Damn it people, this is part of his growth. He hasn't abandoned his friends after almost doing it against Lips during Arlong arc. This is very likely the same for picking fights himself. This one take is CONSISTENTLY bad for every anime viewer I've seen or heard from, but manga readers seem to get it far more. Maybe I'm also blinded by reading the manga first, but god damn it he wasn't grown to take that fight yet. Him turning back was when he had finally reached that point.

jdoggivjc

I've never been the biggest Usopp fan... but I've also never seen him sell out allies before - and it's not even because he's being coerced/tortured... it's simply due to his own cowardice - and after that had supposedly been "developed" out of him. Really hating him in this arc.

GaimeGuy

It's the pacing. A few panels gets stretched into 15 minutes. A brief moment of him turning away and starting his stride gets turned into a several minute long sprint before he turns around.

Scarmath

**quietly so no one can hear** (I actually really like Usopp's story arc here, I relate to having a hard time doing things because you are scared).

Rinthewolf

As soon as ALicia said "y'all need to pray" I lost it. she has no idea how appropriate that statement is.

Rinthewolf

I keep saying this every time people call Ussop a liar: Ussop has never told a lie in his life, he just tells the truth ahead of schedule.

Spicoli

Usopp defenders crazy in here man

Spillthefire6

God the anime really stretches Usopp as far as they possibly can before they let him bounce back. Its basically torture porn

Vivica the witch

its the anime stretching what was a 3-4 chapter story into 10 episodes

Sean Pierson

Soup's character regression was superrrrr disappointing. It would have been so much better if there was a legitimate reason for his regression, like Luffy getting turned into a toy and being forgotten by Soup. That would maybe give us a reason why he's suddenly acting like there's been no growth since the beginning of the series. This could have been written so much better.

Philip Roy

30:19 atm** just to point out usopp also has a sleep star that took out drug crazed enhanced kids could have shot it at any point for the last 2 episodes and ran like a bitch and i would have been happy but usopp gotta usopp

Philip Roy

Just finished this episode.... usopp your first attack is after you give yourself away, you dont shoot a sleep star or a smokescreen for a tontatta to attack sugar or even god damn flames because he know trebol is combustsble nah you shoot a blade at the guy who is obviously not hurt by blades when did he become a moron?