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Moon

FINALLY WE ARE AT A PEAK MOVIE

Karma

WAKANDA FOREVER

Robert Collard

To me the second best MCU movie post Endgame, but not for the reason you want it to be. Ryan Coogler continues to show what an amazing director he is.

MMDXXX

Oh yeah here we go! Time to watch one of the very few actual good post-Endgame MCU films left.

Zetswe Nox

Oh well this will be interesting haven't seen this movie. Tried to a few weeks back when I was hospitalized. The TV at the hospital sucked and I didn't have my glasses.

Plantboy

As someone who’s Hispanic. I REALLY LOVE what they did with Namor. I was a bit nervous considering his comic personality but here?! Ugh they did justice at least for me. I hope to see more of Mcu Namor.

14k Gold

Absolute CINEMA 🤩 This movie finally made me a Namor fan

Nic Woolfe

I am so stoked to see what Alicia has to say about the movie, and if she talks about Chadwick.

Myles

Not doing anymore marvel TV shows?

Sean Cruz

Ok first few minutes in and I already disagree with you Alicia they should recast T'challa. The character's legacy shouldnt die just because the actor is gone. Chadwick was great yes but it shouldnt be the end of T'challa black panther

ExcelDamage

really hoping we at least get guardians holiday special before guardians 3

Shoopdawoop

poor woman has thalassaphobia XD and she watched this lol

ChaosSepher

She has talked about doing Falcon and the Winter Soldier for sure.

Kyutoko

I can't even find the words to describe how much the opening meant to me. Honoring Chadwick's memory and not replacing him. I keep trying, but I can't express it the way I want. Namor is probably the most sympathetic Marvel villain, because I TOTALLY understand why he does what he does. And he isn't wrong for doing it. He just did it the wrong way.

Valeria22475

Eventually sure but they filmed like right after he passed, can understand why the cast and crew who got to know him would rather make a tribute than roll on like its all good

Lenixad

This movie had the mission to show how much of a loss Chadwick and T'Challa's death were to both us and the MCU. And I say they delivered. He will forever be missed.

Gregory Prytyka Jr.

Glad you reached this one. But I still hope you have plans for The Falcon and The Winter Soldier eventually. Also Moon Knight, Ms. Marvel, and Hawkeye.

Vendacator

I didn't like this one much at all, but glad you found some enjoyment out it!

Phantom Penance

The glazing gets a little annoying in this movie: Namor hates the bigotry and suffering of the surface world and…vows to commit a total genocide. Pot meet kettle. And RiRi…Shuri makes fun of Bruce and Tony’s ability to create Vision, the second artificial intelligence ever made. Yet Shuri and Okoye are instantly impressed by RiRi’s glorified metal detector?? Sadly RiRi doesn’t improve any through the years.

ExcelDamage

"i dont like underwater" me suddenly remembering where a lot of this movie is set

MMDXXX

I think you're confusing this with Ironheart. XD

MMDXXX

Well that's gonna be hella hard, cause I don't think anybody could play T'challa/Black Panther as good as Chadwick did. IMO it's like trying to recast somebody other than Hugh Jackman to play Logan/Wolverine, it's kind of a lost cause. XD

TheKingFin

Dang alicia out here hurting me twice in one we with this one it's was a great watch and my gaw did Angela Bassett do some heavy lifting in this movie phenomenal

MMDXXX

Well considering a lot of the MCU's episodic/TV series range from mid to absolute trash, that's probably for the best.

MMDXXX

Fun fact, Namor was actually created before Aquaman, so technically Aquaman is more of a ripoff of Namor. While yes Namor may not be quite as well-known or popular as Aquaman, but pretty much every person who does know Namor collectively agrees that he's a much more interesting character than Aquaman (and arguably cooler too, especially with his inclusion in Marvel Rivals!) I think one of the most interesting aspects of Namor is that he's such a morally complex character, and his approach/role often changes depending on circumstances. Sometimes he's a hero, sometimes he's more of an anti-hero, and sometimes he's a villain (in fact, being deprived of water for too long can make him more bitter/grim and antagonistic in the comics), kinda like Heihachi from Tekken. Not to mention I also find it rather fascinating how his character takes heavy inspiration from ancient Mesoamerican Maya/Aztec culture, considering how underrepresented it is in most media.

Sean Cruz

And thats the kinda attitude snyder fans had over the new superman but guess what? Corenswet did an amazing job as the new superman so its possible to find someone to play an amazing new T'challa

Tom Morgan

M’Baku’s line of “You bald headed demon” is still one of the best line in MCU history! The king of sass!

random gamer

Oh god i just renembered this move has riri in it. I know she prob will but alicia please dont watch ironheart XD.

Esteban Martiá

You said you'd do DC in this movie. Might i suggest an alternative? The DC animated movies have much more consistent quality. Happy to watch either way.

Adrian

I'm happy alicia likes iron heart from specifically this movie but for some reason that disney couldn't comprehend her character only got like 10 comics and I will not say why that is

Chris Henderson

Angela Bassett was robbed of her oscar for this performance

Joey245

I didn't enjoy this movie all that much when I first saw it, but rewatched it recently and LOVED it. Can"t wait to see what Alicia thinks when I watch this tomorrow!

Robert Collard

Riri’s metal detector and her suit are her version of Tony’s mark 1 suit that was created in a cave with a box of scrap. Of course they would have thought what Riri did was more impressive than what Tony and Bruce did at Avengers Tower with the most recent and high rate technology.

Robert Collard

It was more Jamie Lee Curtis (who is a great actress in her own right) winning over Bassett or Stephanie Hsu (who I thought was far and away the best of the three) from Everything Everywhere All At Once that pissed people off more.

MMDXXX

I'd say another good alternative is to start with The Suicide Squad, since that movie is technically the beginning of James Gunn's rebooted DC Cinematic Universe, which is already much better than the Snyder-verse.

MMDXXX

If you're gonna start watching DC, then I'd highly recommend starting with The Suicide Squad, as that movie is technically the beginning of James Gunn's rebooted DC Cinematic Universe, which is both completely separate from and much better than the Snyder-verse.

Gai Valentine

It should’ve been Riri. Not the Queen.

Sean Cruz

You could say that again

Andhy salvatore

The thing about namor that people don’t understand is he did warn the queen if you don’t get your boat our or i find one ill kill you and he stood on business

Cardboard

i think she's just splicing them in every few movies or something but we'll see

YukoValis

weird because I felt the exact same way. When I first saw this movie I thought it wasn't that good at all. On a rewatch it is a lot better than I gave it credit for. As the last movie of phase 4 I would say it ranks in the upper middle.

Adrian

Shut alicia doesn't know anything about iron heart except from this movei she has a right to like her for now

pinky

Why tho, ironheart is really good.

Valeria22475

Ngl my first thought was would she recognize Namor from Rivals cause she didn't for punisher lol

Gildarts1#fan

this movie is a solid 6/10 for me. They should not have shoehorned ironheart into it and they should have just recasted tchalla

Loki (not that one)

Is she going to do the rest of the tv shows? She's done all of the movies release order, but she at least needs to see falcon and winter soldier before the new cap movie, and she needs to see ms marvel before the marvels. Also she needs to see the hawkeye show before thunderbolts and ms marvel

Ranginald Vagel

I know this one’s hit or miss but it’s a hit for me. I was really blown away by the Killmonger scene on first watch. Alicia's reaction to Michael B. Jordan was equally entertaining.

SüprSly Sky

Idk. You're not wrong in that it'd be really really cool, and logically make sense, but I think she'd be way too OP. Like Batman with the yellow (fear) lantern ring. It's really cool, but it becomes difficult to write believable struggles for stories.

Dyno

My favorite bit of visual storytelling in this movie is still how it immediately tells you Shuri's answer to Killmonger's question. T'challa's suit was black with silver accents, while Killmonger's had the golden accents. And as soon as we see Shuri's suit, you know she chose to be more like Killmonger in that moment.

Notto

When’s thunderbolts I can’t wait much longer

Jessica Carsons

Just wait till Alicia finds out Riri has her own series :3

Ranginald Vagel

Namor being a spiteful bastard is central to his character so agreed there, but that second one’s very contrived. Bruce and Tony absolutely did make a crazy ass world destroying AI, a little flak for that isn’t unwarranted. The Vibranium detector is a problem that no one figured out until some university student made it out of spite, and it worked in the field, that is absolutely some real genius shit. I get that people have a chip on their shoulder over Ironheart, but Riri’s fine in this movie.

Matthew Newton

Look up the release order for mcu movies, she plans to do 1 a week

Matthew Newton

I know Punisher and F&WS are on the list

Phantom Pledge

I personally dont like this movie. Amazing tribute to a legendary actor, but otherwise I hate the story. But im also bias against Namor. Im an S Tier Namor hater. There is nothing to like about that fucker in any universe. Fuck that guy

Phantom Pledge

There ain't anything interesting about the guy. Is moral code is nothing complex, he only picks whatever benefits himself/his people. He's a selfish prick (Im a Namor hater)

MKE2ND

Here's what you need to know about Namor in the comics. 1)He's a prick,2) his main goal is to cuck reed Richards and drown the planet. 3)He looks like spock with wings on his feet. 4) he's a prick.

Timothy Dowell

Blows my mind that this movie is not very popular. Namor is PEAK and the tributes to Chadwick Boseman are so powerful. Top 5 MCU film for me.

Dajkenoth

Alicia: I have a fear of underwater ... Uh oh

TwojaStaraIFrytki .

It's so nice to see reaction of someone without the bias towards these movies

Bowman C.

Namor’s plan never made sense to me. Yes, let me attack your capital, kill your Queen, surely that’s going to make the princess join my side. Historically this worked, when princes and princesses already wanted their parents dead, so they lend forces from foreign entities. You don’t try this ploy with a loving royal family.

Notto

So yeah you just came in wanting to hate it from the start, that’s probally why 😂

Notto

I’m hoping she skips that one and the marvels

Notto

There’s not exactly a lot of dcu movies bro. Superman isn’t even out digitally yet. She needs to start with the Snyder movies and TDK trilogy and then make her way up to shit like The Batman and Joker

Notto

It’s not bad but it’s not good either. Just straight mid and it’s not gonna tie into any projects so it’s just pretty unessecary. And tbh I doubt it’ll get much YouTube views

Trevor Wingard

It’s because the movie is retarded at every turn if you spend more than five minutes thinking about it.

N00B

Writing. Its not good here.

nervouspirate

Namor isn’t doing everything according to some plan he’s cooked up, he’s not Loki or Ultron or something. He wanted to team up with Wakanda, gave up that plan to start a war when things didn’t go his way. When the war didn’t go his way, he would have died, but when Shuri spared him, he made a new plan.

Grdaat

Namor is a case of "this guy is making some good points, so to prevent the audience from sympathizing with him he has to kill X for no reason."

YukoValis

Makes perfect sense to me. The rest of the world doesn't know about him or his people. The Wakandas are obviously his greatest threat since they know about them and have weapons on par. If Wakanda doesn't ally with them eventually they figure the world will discover them and Namor would be facing a fight on two sides. For him it is better to destroy the immediate danger especially since the world is against Wakanda for the attacks and public threats. Well founded threats mind you, but threats all the same.

N00B

This movie is both really good and really flawed. If you ignore its flaws, its the best movie since endgame. If you ignore its strengths, its one of the worst. Praise where its do, I cannot imagine a better actor tribute than what this movie did for Chadwick. That funeral wasn't fictional. Despite all of the CGI and actors, it was at its core a real funeral. That's beautiful.

Jacob Funckes

For me the movie was just ok, the action was decent, the tributes were very nice, other than either of Riri's suits the special effects were good, and then the writing felt kind of weak, which to be fair they had to rewrite the entire movie after Chadwick Boseman's death so there was nothing they could have done, though I will say I didn't like the writing for the villains, I didn't really feel much, if any, sympathy for them and more just hatred for them attacking Wakanda. Overall it's a decent movie, just really average and nowhere near as good as the first Black Panther.

Andhy salvatore

i mean namor makes sense cuz he actively is always fighting against Wakanda and the surface world so it makes sense to bring him in on ether movie of his own that will likely have Wakanda anyway or the other way round

Unsaidrumble

Damn, imagine being shuri First losing your father Then your brother And now your mother

Emeradis

The sharp contradiction in energy when the credits end and the video loops is almost funny. *crying alicia finishes great movie, somber finish* "WHAT'S POPPIN YOUTUBE!"

Dull Dragon

Another great reaction to another great Marvel movie. I hope you'll have a chance to catch up on the other Marvel TV shows before reacting to the next few movies, as characters introduced in those shows will also appear in them. Falcon and the Winter Soldier, Hawkeye, and Ms. Marvel are the main ones to see soon.

N00B

Oh... oh no.

N00B

I'm afraid Alicia doesn't skip.

N00B

Yes on booting Riri, no on recasting T'Challa. Not only is it disrespectful, but the tribute to Chadwick was the best part of this movie.

N00B

Riri is like Tony prior to his arc. She's smart, but she's also arrogant, narcissistic and reckless.

N00B

People didn't like her.

N00B

I would gladly explain why that show is garbage, but that would require spoilers. Basically, imagine if in Iron Man 1 Tony stayed the same and the story just acted like he became a hero.

Kykywox

The Hawkeye show is especially good too

N00B

Except what Bruce and Tony made was during a few hours at best in the middle of basically a war against Ultron, hidden just barely from the rest of the team. Or you mean Ultron himself, who arguably is an even more impressive AI than Vision or Shuri's considering he almost whiped out the world in a couple of days.

Adrian

And we shouldn't spoil alicia on why

DrakonFirestone

Starting to watch this reaction I totally forgot that Alicia feels bad with underwater scenes, when she screamed "I don't like underwaaater" with the first scene on the ship, I remember immediately about that and thought to myself "welp, I guess nobody warned her" 😅

LIME

Disagree Chadwick death was so sudden and he was super close to the entire cast he death also happened during the time of writing the movie and the next year they were making it. So still very fresh and would feel disgusting disrespectful to the actor and people who knew him. Also Shuri has become the black panther in the comics.

DeathHawk31

I never watched this one cause I had heard from everyone it was terrible but I actually enjoyed this. Though it felt like they were building up Ross to have some kind of relevance to the story and there just wasn't. Other then giving up the location for Ironheart, everything after that could have been cut from the movie and it would have still been the same movie.

Lukundra

It’s really not disrespectful. We’ve had plenty of fantastic actors give great performances for characters, but we don’t retire the character when they die. Boseman was a great actor and from what I’ve heard a stand up guy, but not recasting him badly hurt this movie.

N00B

Marvel already did something similar with Rhodey, when they replaced his previous actor with Don Cheadle. While I liked both him and Terrence Howard, the circumstances behind the change were rather controversial. Doing the same thing with T'Challa would set a bad precedent, as it would be a second time the MCU recast a POC actor.

Goobert

and what relevance does it have that the actor was a POC? They recast the poc actor with a poc actor, are you just pulling things out of your ass to make it sound like it'd be problematic or what? Cuz they've already recast the actor for Kang, so its been done twice and nobody has batted an eye

Ali

First time rewatching since the release, and fuck that intro when she says “Your brother is with the ancestors” is actually so sad, because there’s not just a fictional death behind those words

TSP247

I always loved this movie because i don't see this as a marvel movie i see it as a tribute movie towards chadwick boseman and about dealing with grief and anger.

Tony

I don't think recasting tchalla would've been a bigger controversy than completely writing off Jonathan Majors off the MCU. If I'm not mistaken I believe Bozeman himself said to recast his character

PurportedGrey

Yeah, it’s definitely not terrible. It had some issues, particularly with the story and writing, but that’s understandable, given how the production was turned upside down after Chadwick’s passing near the end of preproduction and Covid had a hand in messing things up too. Aside from that, it’s a well-made film overall and good entry to the franchise. The bad news is, if she's not doing one of the shows next, then one of the worst MCU movies is up next which is Ant-Man 3.

Noboru Yagami

All things considered this movie was great, i cant say amazing, cuz there was room to improve, but do to him passing and the fact they had to rewrite to fit it in, i cant get upset with this project, it was a great tribute and a great story, as i said the story could have been improved a bit more but from the situation it was in, its was a win for marvel in my opinion at that time. Besides, as a child my fav. Anti hero was Namor so seeing him here was a dream come true, they changed his character to fit a different culture but it fit him very well, in the comics hes a Mutant and a Atlantian, so seeing him here, the first mutant to appear in the MCU, was, great, cant wait to see him be a home wrecker 🤣 trying to steal invisible women from Mr fantastic or storm like in the comics

PurportedGrey

Dude the only controversial thing about the recasting was Ike Perlmutter saying that racist ass shit, even then Feige is the one who made the decision to rebuke Terrence since he was asking for way more money than RDJ for Iron Man 2, aside from that it was the same as any other recasting process in any other show or movie. (Asking for too much money, death, mental health, etc.) Putting a racial connotation to this normal process is very wild.

PurportedGrey

Kykywox, that show gets a bad rap, it's not Loki level of good, but I put it Ms. Marvel, and Wanda/Vision in the same category. Now Secret Invasion and Shehulk, and the last 3rd of Moon Knight on the other hand.😂

PurportedGrey

Notto, if she does the shows too, we are in for a very up and down next couple of months.😂

PurportedGrey

Also Creature Commandos and Peacemaker are the only other pieces of that universe that are out right now.

Gekido

When you said DCU, please tell me thats the animated movies. Those are 🔥🔥

MMDXXX

Clearly you haven’t read the comics, or you don’t know anything about Namor outside this movie.

N00B

It would be wild, if it wasn't such a specific coincidence that it once again is a black character.

StorytellerDave

I would say GOG3 is the best since Endgame, but this one is pretty dang good too.

N00B

I hate Alicia feeling the need to apologise when she only knows a character from Marvel Rivals. Like, witch, you're good. Most people didn't know who Iron Man was until 2008. We're not gonna gatekeep you. In fact, we're happy that Marvel Rivals is also casting a light on the more obscure but still awesome characters in the Marvel Pantheon.

StorytellerDave

So think about it this way. If he were to occupy or conquer Wakanda instead of stopping after the death of the Queen, he would be discovered by the other countries and Wakanda would probably be a nightmare to try and hold for an underwater species. He went in with an attack as a show of force, killed the ruler that threatened him and his people and told the next in line his demands. He had Wakanda in his palm, the only reason it backfired was Shuri getting the black panther powers back, which he could not have anticipated. And even when his plan fails, Wakanda stands no chance against a vengeful Talokan, Waknda was losing badly before Shuri finally fries Namor. If she kills Namor, Wakanda is F'd and she knows this, hence why he is spared and he has the intellect to understand that it's better for Wakanda to think they won, and lay low until Wakanda is in deep s*** with the rest of the world and then they can go with the original plan of allying up with Wakanda against the rest of the world.

JansWichtig

Wakanda Forever is such a good movie. It is a shame that It boomed because of f*ing Internet Trolls and rascism. If you Love this movie you should watch Ironheart too. Its about what happend with Riri in the afthermath, also pretty nice Show.

Moviejunkie

I think the Queen was my favorite character.

Faroth

Having Shuri and Riri working together, man, they just needed to add Moongirl and would be the 3 most intelligent girls of the MCU together and all are black girls 🙅🏾‍♀️🙅🏾‍♀️🙅🏾‍♀️

M

Yes Riri is such a bright and interesting character, bet she'll do GREAT as a main character in her own show right... right? Why is nobody answering me!

Faroth

Really nice show, and again a lot of trolls started to throw hate just because they start comparing riri with tony stark leaving a lot out of context and forget that shows are supposed to have let downs of the MC on which they get tongrow as a character, just like shuri was down fornrevenge but grow as a black panther, riri in her show get her downfall just to get up at the end, but trolls just keep posting bs about it because they think the "wokes" are trying to makr a 'tony stark black girl' just because they dont know the character. If something, is not a black girl tony stark, it would be the comparison of miles morales and peter parker with tony stark: same type of hero but with a total different backstory

nervouspirate

There’s some toxic ass comments in here. Pretty sure I saw slurs. Movie’s great though.

nervouspirate

It’s my favorite thing to look forward to in her reactions. I’ve never even seen a comment disliking it.

Joshua Coffin

Namor is, and always has been, a total dick

The Lazy Gamer

Probably meant like Man of Steel and onward, cause Gunn only has like, 3 or 4 projects at the moment, a few on technicalities. Suicide Squad, CC, Superman, and Peacemaker.

Fei Ashtear

The entire snyderverse is skippable. The new superman will be out on digital by the time she gets through the suicide squad, peacemaker, and creature commandos. If she's gonna go back for outdated stuff, she might as well start at Christopher Reeves, or all the old batman movies. Or just do the animated stuff, that's mostly all fantastic.

ThatOne Hooman

This movie's decent, and Letitia Wright was great as Black Panther, but it's hard for me to wrap my head around the fact that they decided to kill T'Challa in-universe instead of just recasting. Chadwick Boseman was phenomenal, but it almost gives the impression that he's the ONLY T'Challa and no one else can play him. Sure, we have his son by the same name, who will eventually grow up and be T'Challa, the Black Panther again, but then it feels like you're pushing away Shuri. Just feels strange to me. R.I.P. Chadwick Boseman

nervouspirate

I don’t see how that’s pushing Shuri away in the slightest. We’ll have Prince T’Challa the Second within the decade then he and Shuri will both be Black Panther, there can be more than one.

Bowman C.

Unless Wakanda has nukes. With all the technological advancement they have, no one thought of inventing a big bomb that kills everything in a 100 mile radius. Yet they claim to be the most powerful nation

EnderSlayer366

The "if you ignore its flaws it's the best and if you ignore its strengths it's the worst" is so real and applies to so much post-endgame lmao

ThatOne Hooman

I guess, but I’ve personally never been a fan of two heroes having the same mantle while being active at the same time. It always causes really annoying discourse, and in universe it can result in stuff like the dialogue from Insomniac’s Spider-Man 2.

ThatOne Hooman

Plus, the only reason why this is a debate is because they decided not to recast in the first place

ACVIFOR

Hearing that she is gonna start watching DCU movies has me feeling giddy.

RedRam-Ipsen

Didn't Chadwick Boseman actually state that he wanted them to recast his character rather than them killing him off?

IFoundTheLight

Good job getting through this movie with the underwater scenes.

ThatOne Hooman

I’ve heard about that from other comments but I can’t really confirm that for sure

Nugo520

100% Agree man. We all get into these fandoms through different means, I got into marvel through the cartoons and video games before I even picked up a comic and I'm still a die hard Marvel fan. Learn about and connect with characters through what ever way is best for you enjoy them and learn about them in the ways that suit you.

Nugo520

This is my first time watching this movie and I do regret not seeing it sooner. I missed it when it first came out due to Marvel fatigue but I am so glad that I have now seen it and I am really glad I got to enjoy it with Alicia and everyone else in the community. I am also really glad this movie didn't just go after British Colonialism like in the first move, not that it didn't have the right too and it's ok that it did it's just nice that it also addressed Spanish and to a degree french actions in that regrade too.

Oatmeal

Ah, this one, a downgrade from the first one, but as bad as people say it is, just....weird decisions

Nym

This movie is utter and complete cinema, I love this absolutely ruined me emotionally in cinemas when I first watched it tho.

Gekido

Yeah I was assuming she meant Snyder and then Gunn but I hope she does the animated ones too ngl.

Myles

I wish you were following the release order of the shows. Hope you react to them

G0R0_!ch!B@n25

Fun Fact, Namor's actor had a VERY proturding buldge in his spandex that had to be flattened with CGI

lordofcheeks

Im glad i wasnt too chronically online when this came out bc i really enjoyed this movie and i understand why there wasnt an immediate recasting. Im sure its going to happen soon soon. its a solid 7/10 if anything.

Jyxxe

It was honestly so perfect for them to have the film be dedicated to Chadwick Boseman in the way they did, mourning his loss both in-universe and in reality. I especially appreciate that the reveal about T'Challa's son was left for the after-credit scene, so that both the start and end of the film involve sitting in remembrance of T'Challa - in remembrance of Chadwick.

Jacob

Right! It's better to recognize them from somewhere, even Fortnight, than to be left 'who'? Like, it improves the reaction especially when they take their time to reveal it like here with Namor.

Mune_Lite

I’m just wondering only because you watch the Pirates of the Caribbean movies and really enjoyed talking about the cgi if you would watch the Avatar Movies especially since the third one is on the way!

Nick Lopez

I feel as though if they are going to re cast Jonathan majors from him not knowing how to keep his hands to himself... then they can drag people back from the dead into the light such as Chadwick Baseman, I hate to say it but in the world where AI is already making deep fakes of people and causing problems, I would have to imagine AI can imitate those who are dead/gone... or they could do something similar to the fast n furious franchise like they did for Paul walker in f7.

Tyler Brasher

Alicia: I DONT LIKE UNDERWAAAAATERRRRR Me: Welllll about that...

Switchchris27

She is part of the Young Avengers, so she was probably in more then 10 comics, just not solo comics.

Switchchris27

It sucks that this movie got so much Hate when it came out. Incels online hated Shuri for whatever stupid reason they could come up with and they also hated Rere for the same stupid reasons. They wanted Black Panther to be recast, like only idiots would want. This movie is great.

Coulderoi

God please, we need Moon Knight.

bruce lee

at around 1:26:40 damn the queen looks super sexy in that dress

Switchchris27

They will not Recast Black Panther, they never will. Shuri is the Black Panther now, and even if there is a Variant in the universe that will clash with this one in Secret Wars, it will not be Chadwick's Black Panther. Sure if could be fun to see Black Panther interact with Storm when they are brought into the MCU, that would have been a fun story to see play out, but that version of Black Panther needs to stay dead with the actor. To Recast him would be wrong imo.

Kaltrec

They did not make it "in a few hours". They were already working on making an AI project before the movie started. Also judging an AI's value by its destructing force is a bit foolish.

Kei_Uzuki

Can't believe some people really like iron heart. I find her unbearable. I believe they should remove her and she Hulk... they suck.

Kei_Uzuki

or at least re-write them. Marvels been slacking for years.

Easy Mode - A.I

its just inevitable, market always looking at whats popular and the most outspoken crowds especially online are the dead brained cry babies. gonna have to just enjoy animated stuff while they pump out more of this slop and attempt to make a whole new avengers line with these B heros

Mune_Lite

I’m only suggesting this because I just finished your arcane reactions and say Netflix suggest Blue eye Samurai at the end and omg you should watch it! It’s getting a season 2 I believe in 2026, and to me it’s a 10/10 series

Felix Rojas V.

This movie is the less dick I have seen Namor ever. Something about it is so funny to me.

Felix Rojas V.

I liked the movie more in this rewatch. Solid stuff.

Ballad Snowfox

I still feel bad for just not liking RiRi as a character, but then again I disliked her from when I read her first run and the champions run didn't help *but* I hear the second run was a lot better, but I *hate* that I now end up surrounded by people who are incels or racists when I hold the negative reaction of Post Civil War 2 comics (which were pretty uniformly bad to give it to Ironheart) for the TV show I just couldn't bring myself to care enough to watch a hero I'm ambivalent about vs a villain I'm ambivalent with a greater scope bad guy who I actively don't think is very interesting (Belasco is the same archetype but better drama imho)

Ballad Snowfox

Real Question since I read her comics origin and hated it, is she still got a opposition complex? like a big issue in that run was she was always basically asking to be opposed and teachers and mentors to put her down so she can "fight for my place" which was just poor writing and worse optics. Her first run also had an issue of her either causing a fight to be harder than it needs to or relying on suit AI or others to save the day as she just...flys around which I have to assume is different but I don't want to invest to be disappointed by a lack of growth again.

Switchchris27

Yeah, my point wasn't that everybody who dislikes the character is Racist or Sexist, my point was that a lot of the people who are complaining about characters like her and shuri in the mcu are Racists and Incels. Rere was never a really popular character, she didn't have the kind of writers that a lot of other characters have. I do hope she gets the better writers now that she is in the mcu.

Noboru Yagami

She probably will, DCAU is what your waiting for lol, justice league war and so one, i like those

PokéBoyBB

I love this movie a lot, I wish I got to watch it in theaters cause it was really good! My only real gripe with it- The Takolkan’s durability is a bit wack. They can apparently take Vibranium spears to the gut just fine, but one, ONE blast from Nakia’s sonic rifle managed to one-shot a Takolkan? Keep in mind she didn’t shoot just the handmaid, she one-shot a soldier too. If they can die from one sonic-rifle shot, clearly they don’t have a defense for concentrated sonic weaponry. Stop using the regular sonic weapons and equip every warrior with sonic rifles! You’d decimate Namor’s armies with minimal casualties at worst! Namor’s a great villain, and I’m glad he didn’t die so he could return another day, but I do not have sympathy for him or the other Takolkans. They are willing to kill innocent Wakandans for their now blind hatred for the surface world. I know you can’t do this cause Namor has to be recognizable, but if I was Shuri, I would have cut Namor’s ankle wings off as a warning. You kill my mother and a lot of my people? The least I’m doing is permanently weakening you.

PokéBoyBB

I think not recasting, while it did hurt this movie, was the best decision. It doesn’t even matter anyway cause we have Shuri, who has been black panther in the comics. Plus, it’s theorized there might be a Universe Reset in the future of the MCU so we’re most likely getting a recast then.

Michael

Man, this movie is so aggressively mid.

Darchangel

DC movies incoming? LFG!!

GT QcNumber1 Vézina

to me I wanted to have him recast only because Chadwick said that Black Panther was bigger than him, that it should be just him. But I was also ok with Shuri to be the next one as it was in the comics too. those haters have to respect for the movie and they have no respect for me. it was a beautiful movie. I didn't watched it when it was released because I wasn't ready to feel the pain and sadness I would feel from watching it knowing it would be a send off to Chadwick and T'Challa but unfortunately later in the same month it was released I lost a dear friend to a untimely illness death that came out of nowhere, making even more harder to watch it. took me nearly over 2 years to watch it. I'm glad I watched it several months ago and now seeing it again with Alicia, I have the same feeling like the first time meaning the movie was so good that no matter time you watch it you still feel the same emotion as the first time. To Chadwick Boseman, may you rest in power. WAKANDA FOREVER.

Memento Forever

Wait! Valentina Allegra De Fontaine was in this movie!???? I forgot!

Notto

Yeah idk what’s going on with the tv shows she’s already skipped past them if we’re going by release date

Notto

Those movies are pretty shit and just get carried by cgi. Would be a waste of time tbh

DeAnthony Potts

I am glad you loved this movie as much as me It sparked a highly controversial discourse because people wanted T'Challa replaced, but I prefer this memorial to such a great man. (Lucky the after credits scene means we all won)

Mune_Lite

What a weird and rude thing to say

Felix Rojas V.

Wait I was pretty sure she cut at least one ankle wing?? Did I misunderstand?

Sniper Delta

And she said she's going to be watching the DC movies as well so let's see how she handles Aquaman😅😅😅

Tyler Brasher

Hopefully the Animated Universe not the Snyderverse lol

LuxCrank

Another first time watch and another movie that I only ever heard of being bad. Wasn't as good as the first one, but what sequel ever is. But not a bad movie in any way or anti-white, which were things I've heard. I feel like Iron heart's inclusion was forced, but it's overall harmless. Shuri Having combat training isn't unbelievable. She's a member of the Royal family in a culture where women are clearly warriors. It would have been nice to have like a training scent but movies long enough already.

PokéBoyBB

She did but I meant I would cut all of them off while he was incapacitated.

Austin

The girl who plays Shuri isn't funny or a good actress

Adam

Neither movie was. Racists just like to claim that shit if their own race isn't heavily in some movie.

Shalune

Wright's performance as Shuri was amazing in this T_T

LuxCrank

I figured as much even before not watching the movie. I really just didn't watch it because I was already tired of Marvel movies at the time. I didn't even watch end game.

Kyriakos dn2

she is ok but what they did with her was way wrong

Austin

She isnt ok both Shuri and riri are unfunny and annoying

Goobert

Bro is so racepilled its insane, go touch grass lol

N00B

This is a mistake. This was NOT supposed to be a standalone comment, but a reply to another comment talking about how the movie shouldn't have shoe-horned i Riri and should have recast T'Challa.

Ash Lee Can

Hey, Goofy. That's YOUR opinion. Leticia Wright got absolute praise for her portrayal in this film. Why even bother commenting on the film if you don't even like two of the main characters that the film is literally centered around? Miserable Behavior, if you ask me...

Ash Lee Can

Did you not see the police run away before the drone landed there? Also, the police probably heard her counting down, giving them full warning before it happen...

Ash Lee Can

I mean, people wanted T'Challa replaced because they want their entertainment, but not even bothering to think about the people who actually knew and worked with him everyday on that movie, that they'd have to sit there and look at Chadwick REPLACEMENT in the face every day in the midst of them still grieving. He was like family to them. Our entertainment does override others' grief and people is absolutely disrespectful. Those who wanted him replace will be alright...

Ash Lee Can

The gun was designed to be lethal. Nakia literally said it. Way to different things. I mean, do you even know what round was made with? I'm sure vibranium was also involved, along with many other things.

Ash Lee Can

Then she would have just weakened someone who became a MAJOR ally, which is what was done when when she spared him. You think taking both of Namor wings like that would just fly with him?

Ash Lee Can

Or maybe people are more concerned about their personal entertainment instead of the feelings from the people who literally loved and worked with him everyday and came to know him as family. You think they would want to see someone in T'Challa's walking around in tat role, staring into the newbie's face everyday wile all in the midst of their OWN REAL grieving? We lost a loved actor. They lost a loved one. I think their feelings come before ours in this regard. No offense...

Austin

sorry i dont have to lie like everyone else, she is a shit actress

ThatOne Hooman

Then delay the movie or something to give them time to grieve. That *is* a perspective I hadn’t thought about much however. Regardless it’s still strange purely from a writing standpoint. I understand where you’re coming from though.

Notto

Wdym rude? Did I personally insult you by saying that? If so I apologize I didn’t know you worked on the movies

Notto

Not DCU there’s only 2 dcu movies out she’s doing all of dc

Mune_Lite

Are you that socially dense?? No shit i didn’t work on the movies, but i clearly like them, and so you tell me their shit and a waist of time? Like why feel the need to say that? No one asked

Loki (not that one)

Why does everybody keep saying ironheart is so terrible, I thought it was one of the much better mcu shows

Adam

I think what was more being pointed out is no one gives a fuck what you think, Austin.

Adam

She-Hulk was *literally* how she was in the comics in her show. And how she's been for three decades. Ever thought maybe you just suck?

Dorran

"I am Prince T'Chala, son of King T'Chala" makes me cry EVERY time. Heck, even the music they play as Shuri is burning the garment... This whole bloody movie is pretty much literally the public memorial for Chadwick, and even the cast's opportunity to grieve him. We loved him through the movies and shows that he was in, but they got to know him in person... and just how wonderful of a man he was. You really DO need to watch What If...? Endgame may have been his final live-action performance, but he did voice acting for What If...? season 1... and it is wonderful.

CatGod101

one of the worst things about this movie is how preachy it is as well as it introducing the horrible person known as Riri Williams

Twisted Fictions

'I don't like under waaaaater' Boy, I have BAD news lmao

Rhodair

Austin, that's fine you hold a different opinion. However, it's more than insulting to suggest anyone who thinks contrary is lying. You know in older times calling someone a liar was about one of the worst accusations someone could make. Maybe think twice before typing such a thing to random strangers online based on something that is fundamentally subjective.

Rhodair

Oh dang, I was in the same boat somewhat after End Game, but I'm sorry you felt that before and didn't get to experience it in theater. Glad you're still getting to experience it now at least :3

Karatsuki

I mean people are allowed to dislike a character no matter how well portrayed they are

Oatmeal

Oh....oh god no, oh god no, next Monday is *that* movie, oh fuck no

Karatsuki

Sorry but I don't feel for the queen really, she tricked Namor and attacked resulting in death for the Talokan. There was still time for talking but she sealed the deal first. But at least she owned it by saving the other girl

Kei_Uzuki

That's crazy... I encountered 1 of the 10 She Hulk fans in existence.

Curtis Murphy

Riri isn't horrible. Well done on outing yourself as either a racist or an easily led person that falls for propaganda

Curtis Murphy

I see we're extending the IronHeart smear campaign back to this movie too

Curtis Murphy

I think that person is continuing the smear campaign against the character that was started with the Ironheart show

Curtis Murphy

Geee I wonder what these 2 characters have in common. Let me guess, you also didn't like The Marvels or Captain Marvel

Curtis Murphy

And just like that you've shown yourself to be a hateful troll

Curtis Murphy

I mean, the hate for the character is disingenuous and you KNOW it's disingenuous

Kei_Uzuki

you're just projecting but ok. There's a good amount of characters that lack writing in the MCU but im not gonna mention them for you, believe what you want. An example if you want is Hulk, they pretty much ruined his character, hopefully they can start fixing their mistakes.

Egregore

Comparing Ironheart to She-Hulk is wild

Sean Cruz

Wow "you dont like this character so you hate women and black people" like bro its not that deep

Baindrik Morgren

yeah no. There was no way to avoid the war. Namor made it clear he saw the detector as a sign of incursion and was fully intending to go to war. What little negotiation Wakanda had was what side of the war they'd be on. If they said no Shuri and Riri would have been killed, if they said yes there would be casualties to their people. There was no way to come out of this peacefully.

Yaboi7117

I love the way they honored Chad / T’Challa. The culture and importance of differences is so much deeper than most people understand.

Ryan Whorton

I remember a whole lot of internet chatter being generated about "recast Black Panther" and it seemed a lot of the people advocating for that forgot that actual people are involved in the making of these. Yes Shuri and Nakia are characters but they're played by actors who had a real relationship with Chadwick. He was there coworker. Not to mention all the crew etc. Like how would you even emotionally deal with that if they just recast the guy as the same character that was part of a landmark in black film history? So yeah not recasting was the best option.

Ryan Whorton

Sode note. If she does DC stuff how she gonna do with Aquaman?

Hawk

"horrible person" "preachy" It's only a dog whistle if we can't hear it, Ted Cruz.

MoD+

Did not like that movie. Some scenes looks like PS2 grafics. And the actor who is becoming the new Black Panther was a hardcore corona disbeliever. She was almost kicked out of studio several times, cause she did not want to wear a mask. Almost sarcastic that she playes the sciense based character, but in real live she is the opposite. I Hate her. Bd Movie, bad decision to make her the new Panther

BartonBelladonna

okay buddy, keep lying and gaslighting us. you'll find a sucker eventually.

MoD+

Hä?

Adam

Why not recast Iron Man or Cap while we're at it? Or Deadpool, or literally anyone else who's shown how perfect they are for the role with someone who won't be.

Rose Soldier

Lets not forget she disrespected Tony Stark the real Iron Man

Hexx Gear

The end credit scene is a good callback to first black panther too "A man who has not prepared his children for his own death has failed as a father.. have I ever failed you my son..?" "No baba.." And Tchalla did just as his father did like they said at the end