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Yovan_Night (Purple Rain🟪)

Rudo’s Crashout was very justified, and I’d say that Amo did deserve one or two of those punches. But the battle was already won and she was totally powerless since everyone had their masks on. Besides, whether she deserved it or not, the visual of a little girl who couldn’t defend herself in that moment being brutally pummeled just makes the scene be that much darker.

Table Lord

imo she deserved every one of those punches, she made them all see people they loved and lost as a way to manipulate them

DiabloAnos

Glad I'm not the only one who forgot they got the spell put on them.

Miner49er201 .

Can we agree that Enjin is somewhere on the spectrum? I had this thought when he talked to Remlin about their powers - Enjin has this compulsion to try and understand situations (as seeing Amo's romance talk as the price for info) and powers (Rudo, Remlin, Amo, etc.), but in the case of Remlin got angry at his own lack of understanding. Enjin seems - at least to me - to have built up this framework of how he understands the 'rules' of the world; negotiation, Giver powers, etc. A significant desire to deconstruct and understand what's around him, but he ALSO has such a strong belief in that self-constructed framework that when something pops up that doesn't neatly fit into said framework (Remlin's explanation of their powers), he snaps to anger at something he doesn't understand, or that doesn't "fit" within that preconceived framework. Overall, really enjoying his character and hope to see plenty more from him.

Miner49er201 .

Apologies for the paragraphs. I'm passionate.

Yovan_Night (Purple Rain🟪)

In her defense, I do think that the fight was entirely preventable had Enjin not slipped up with his words. Honestly, if Tomme had spoken with Amo first, this whole situation never would’ve happened. But your opinion is valid as well, even if we disagree.

WillGlacier

no. As someone on the spectrum I don't see what you mean, but you are free to believe in whatever you believe in I guess

Chimpman

I disagree heavily, but I like the analysis regardless. I think he's far too aware of emotions and reading social situations that it doesn't really fit.

BirthdayParty

I don't think that's why Enjin was pissed off at Remlin - he thought he was following Remlin's train of logic (they were the one who brought up that each successor probably chose the next one based on similar characteristics), only for Remlin to turn around and seemingly contradict Enjin by saying that each of the successors were totally different people. I agree that Enjin tends to have a tendency to see things from a transactional POV, but that seems to me more like a consequence from growing up on the Ground since nobody really seems to be put off by it or point it out, Enjin himself implies that he was a far more flawed and unself-aware individual before he turned over a leaf in this episode. Not saying your view of Enjin is wrong, just that there are more explanations for Enjin's behavior than just one.

BirthdayParty

Disagree with Table Lord, they came to Amo for info, then Enjin basically mashed every single one of her mental instabilities within the space of a single conversation. They are the ones who reached out to her, and they are the ones who provoked her first. Don't think her response was right, but I don't think I can say she deserved to be beaten to death (which I'm pretty sure Rudo would have done if he hadn't been pulled away from her) when the situation had managed to be resolved with no one dead. If she had killed someone, then I think the situation would have been different though.

Yovan_Night (Purple Rain🟪)

Oh Rudo was def gonna kill her there if they didn’t pull him off. It’s one of those rage scenes that I can’t even be hype over tbh, just disturbed

Raven Shadow

@BirthdayParty you're not making any sense, like who thinks that they are at fault for triggering a mentally unstable person lool and wtf do you mean provoke her? with what? not talking about romance?

Raven Shadow

no i do not trust armchair psychologist XD just from this one episode you really think you can attribute that diagnostic on him? Without one on one therapy you will not find if he really is on spectrum nor if it's just how the author written the character

Void

Amo only wanted to have a conversation. Amo is very mentally unstable, she didn't know why they were there to talk but she finally had someone to talk to. What she did isn't excusable and did deserve a punch or two, but Enjin didn't help and said some very provoking stuff.

BakaSama

I personally felt a little uncomfortable with Rudo just sitting on Amo and pummeling her. One punch, I think was fine, but everything beyond that just felt excessive. I’ve not read the manga, but if what I’ve heard/read about her past is true, it makes it even worse IMO.

Yovan_Night (Purple Rain🟪)

Raven, As you just said, she’s mentally unstable, which means abnormal things could possibly provoke her. Enjin could’ve and should’ve been more tactful about his approach, because they could’ve avoided the entire fight if he was. Also, considering he’s a fully able adult while Amo is a mentally unstable teen, it automatically falls on him to guide the conversation in a way that wouldn’t result in an altercation. Not that I’m fully blaming him, just saying that he could’ve done better.

lv1mp

GIRL Thank you to the chatters who decided to throw a massive wet blanket over what was an amusing Alicia moment, all over a fictional characters theorised age. That was absolute cringe. I can only hope that most were doing it as a comedic gotcha to try and enhance the bit and weren't seriously worried, but either way it turned out pretty disruptive and quite the mood killer. Well done Alicia for being able to push past the awkwardness and get back into the flow of the episode again, you saved it. As for this episode; my curiosity towards everyone's back story has increased ten fold. You just know there's going to be trauma involved somewhere, the poor things.

Barbietube

Watch twitter mfers try to cancel Gachiakuta because of that scece cuz they can't handle any dark shit shown in fiction. It's gonna be Takopi's original sin all over again.

Bologna Amputation

Example one bazillion of chat deserving the dungeon constantly.

MaskedRider

Look at things from her perspective though. She lives alone, and a group of complete strangers show up and start talking to her, and when she thinks they'll have a decent conversation they immediately start trying to get something from her. Was her initial reaction probably a bit much, sure, but she's one girl in a room by herself vs nine strangers in a world that we know can be extremely harsh and dangerous. Instead of trying to deescalate things, Zanka then proceeded to whip out his weapon and threaten her and insult her in her own home. If I was Amo of course I would be on guard, on edge and above all angry that a bunch of ingrates came to me and stared demanding things.

Spicy Noodles

considering how well Kei Urana has been with her female characters and their portrayals i hightly doubt amo is anywhere near the age of 16 shes more than likely an adult.

Matt

Well, spectrum doesn't seem like the correct term, he's a character after all (not that proper portrayals don't exist in fiction). This coincides more with what I know from Enneagram, a personality system that tries to explain the types of characters and their issues. Enjin, by your analysis, would be a type 1 or 5 that is very healthy. He fits the description, a deep moral schematic he built up which tells right from wrong and strong compassion that makes him a great mentor. Which type his character is might be determined by his backstory but the creator really put some great foundations into building Enjin as a compass for Rudo.

Balenseeks

Amo's rage bait worked a little too well

Sean A. Crofts

Rudo out here being based;equal rights, equal lefts.

Easy Mode - A.I

love the idea but not really a big fan of the series yet, feels like they are def gonna hit us with a "you two are related" bullshit down the road

Sean A. Crofts

Bucky: "AAA-GAIN! AAA-GAIN! AAA-GAIN!"

Aliulo

So let me get this straight: A group of people enter someone's home. Armed. Proceed to insult her and try to make demands. She says "no way" and effectively fires a warning shot. The group doubles and triples down despite multiple opportunities to deescalate. Then after finally subduing her and rendering her harmless, one of them holds her down and beats her into unconsciousness. These are supposed to be the people we root for? They're little better than raiders.

Balrog36

Tbh, with stuff that starts happening down the line, she either a child or a pedo imo. So I choose to believe she a child

Balrog36

This may be rage bait but I'll bite. They told her immediately what they wanted and she invited them in, had them remove their defense against her and had already worked her way into Delmon's head before Enjin even insulted her given how quickly he retaliated. Not to mention the effects of her boots. You can cheer for whoever you want, but the cleaners are not the bad guys in this story.

Ramizis

Fiction defenders are at it again

Mickash

Yeah, like Amo has a really sad backstory and understandable reasons to be the way she is, but she absolutely was the aggressor here. The "Warning shot" could very well have killed Enjin, and definitely would have killed any normal unprotected person. The cleaners didn't even do anything outwardly aggressive until that, only interacted with her in a way she didn't love.

Nym

Almost definitely

Gobbo

Lmao what Rudo and Amo aren't even remotely related

Gobbo

Well according to Kei, Amo is around 16