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Hazbin Hotel 2x4

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Sam Marsh

I've always loved Niffty, she's our precious little gremlin princess, but I love her even more now that I've seen her kawaii side!!!

Dylin Gwathney

I wonder if she will react to Supernatural at some piont cause i think she would love it

Leticia

"Don't forget" and its reprise are my favorite songs from this season yet

rmplays

That is a huuuuge commitment I’d love to see that too but I don’t think it’s going to happen I would think something like Lucifer Is more likely to happen

Darc Hart94

And a horrible cult leader who probably deserves worse than hell

Darc Hart94

Honestly the most surprising thing i found was that Rosie was the one who gave Alastor all that power. Somehow she made him the most powerful human soul in hell AND forced him to help Charlie with the hotel for some reason. What does she know?

Professor Walker

I am betting that Rosie is Eve! Rosie (Root) Evil (Eve) = Root of Evil Eve is the one who committed the first sin of humanity

Darc Hart94

Somebody this season really hit Charlie with a stupid stick. She has made every possible bad choice so far dealing with voxtek

Dantalion The Nephalem

Im so interested now to see what Favor Al is gonna ask of Charlie, she cant hurt anyone as part of the deal, but now Vox cant lay a finger on Charlie, and Al also needs both Nifty and Husk around as well since he has deals with them as well I dont think we will have a full conclusion of any of the deals this season, but definetly a hint in the final episode or something cause now I have high suspicions that Alastor might end up as the final villain of the show

Switchchris27

While this episode did DESTROY my theories about Alastor's deal and who the deal was with, i love that we got an Alastor episode and I can't wait to see how this goes. I hope that Rosie just shows up to get Alastor back and absolutely wrecks Vox in the process. Alastor is HER pet.

DLCDallas

No hate to Brandon Rogers but this season so far has cemented that his Katie is a downgrade in comparison to the Pilot. He's barely changing his voice which results in me just thinking about BlitØ, a character that he does well in. This is just my opinion but I think sometimes giving or making a role for a friend doesn't automatically make them good at it.

Darc Hart94

We've known that Alastor was a Creole voodoo serial killer in new orleans for a while since Viv mentioned it years ago. We also knew his death too, they just made it more official

Adam Lawson

The hypocrisy of Alistair judging Vox for having allies and others assist him in being more powerful. Yet he’s only as powerful as he is because he chose to become a slave and sell his soul to Rosie. Ngl, I’d take allies over being a slave

Former Arasaka Assassin

I'm terrified they're gonna take out my boy Vox this season 🥺 I think the Don't Forget Reprise is my favourite from this season.

Tobi131313 .

This Episode shows Alastors hypocrisy on full display. He always laughed and belittled Vox for relying on others, but he would literally have NOTHING if not for his deal with Rosie. Meanwhile Vox actually rose up to become an Overlord through cooperation and planning. This episode endeared Vox a lot more to me and made me like Allastor slightly less. I know want to see his downfall.

Vegvisir92

disturbingly....i actually like Vox more than Alastor..... Alastor deserves every bad thing that happens to him

Narluga

i still think the theory that rossie is lilith in disguise is still good. and that the "lilith" in heaven is eve and not Lilith. i think that the orignal Rossie was killed by Lilith and she took her place. because i really don't see rossie being able give alastor his boost. considering teh spideroverlord guy is alive and id think he' d be the strongest as the oldest. so id have to be lilith. idk im spit ballin

Matt Myers

Lucifer vs Alastor is very much a Bugs Bunny vs Daffy relationship, even alluding to it in the mugs, Duck Season/Deer Season

DLCDallas

I mean, as far as we know Vox isn't a cannibalistic murderer. Just a cult leader who either did or didn't go full Jonestown, my money is on did.

DLCDallas

What was endearing about Alastor previously? He's temu Dahmer.

Sam Marsh

The main condition of Alastor’s deal with Vox was that he “wouldn’t hurt Charlie”, but I feel that Al is going to keep pushing his buttons to the point that Vox loses control and violates the terms of their deal, which will somehow cancel his debt to Rosie.

Narluga

hm i think Alastor made the deal to force charlie to save him or maybe somehow free him from his deal? i don't think he included niffty and husker because he liked them but to build the narrative that he made the deal for the hotel and for his "friends". so they'll go tell Charlie what they saw and Charlie will attack vox of her own free will and either force vox to break the deal or be alastor will use his favor to have Charlie break is contact somehow.

Sam Marsh

I always assumed that the exterminations had been going on for millennia, or at least a few centuries, but this episode we learn that they’ve only been going on for 7-8 years, so they started around the same time that Rosie made Alastor go off the air, and when Lilith pulled her disappearing act. All of these things are connected, but how?

Hellguin

I love the Deer Season and Duck Season mugs that Lucifer and Alastor have.

DrOverbuild8363

Rosie being the one who owns Alastor and thus controls him was definitely a surprise. I mean it was kinda hinted at, but it seemed much more likely that Charlie's mom had control over him. Charlie saying that she was bi was also somewhat surprising, and it feels like it could either be info to explain something down the line, or a throw away piece of lore that isn't terribly important. I don't know why, but I get the feeling that either Alastor or Vox could be the next ones to be redeemed. I know that Angel is the closest to it right now, seemingly, but I get the feeling that redemption in this universe isn't about becoming a better person or model citizen overall. Its about doing something that to an extant redeems their specific sin. And if thats the case someone could be accidentally redeemed by doing whatever that action may be in the heat of the moment, out of guilt, or perhaps while under someone else's control. Of course if that were the case you would think that someone else would've been redeemed within the last 10,000 years, but its till possible. For Vox I feel like it might be as simple as coming clean to the populace, revealing his lies, or maybe he just steps down from his top position in the company amongst the 3 V's. For Alastor...... maybe something similar. I don't know. How would a serial killer get redeemed given the context?

Jose cheese

thank you aliciaxrant i mean aliciaxtangent

Levi Ackerman

While I like getting more backstory about Alastor I am still wondering about the logistics. Like how Rosie can make Alastor the most powerful sinner in hell. That at least should tell us that Rosie is a hellborn demon and no sinner because I don't think its logical that she could create someone more powerful than herself. I don't know if we knew that before. That means that she basically got everyone fooled because I don't think anyone thought she would be that strong. Interesting.

YorHaDen VT

The way I see it, or at least what my theory is, is that Rosie is connected to Lilith somehow. Lilith is clearly planning something, and she's set things in motion in a very specific way. If my theory is correct, she's the one who gave Rosie her powers, or at least the ability to make Alastor so powerful. One of the conditions must have been to ensure Charlie's safety and/or influence her in some sort of way. 7 years ago, Lilith made a deal with Adam that involved her staying in Heaven while Adam could go and exterminate Sinners (but not Hellborns, which is a really important part of the deal imo). At the same time, Rosie ordered Alastor to lay low for a while, possibly to prevent him from going too wild or fighting the exorcists on his own, and she probably kept an eye on Charlie during that time. When she saw Charlie starting up the hotel, she realized that she could keep things in check through Alastor, thanks to him losing some of his reputation due to his absence and, possibly, a good number of old Sinners that would remember him dying during the exterminations, safe for the ruling Overlords. So, my main theory about this is : Lilith is carefully planning an uprising by trying to turn Charlie into some kind of warlord, knowing that Lucifer would help her more than if Lilith made the uprising herself (she might be trying to turn him into a warrior too by fueling some hatred of Heaven in him and making him want to fight for Hell despite hating it). There's also the possibility that Lilith has a higher deal with God or with the Speaker and that it's an even bigger plan, though. The Big Man has been quite silent so far.

Seraphem

Okay, on my first watch I missed the line about the Exterminations only having been going on for seven years. So..... WTF went on and how is Rosie, Lilith, and the Exterminations starting all tied together?

Seraphem

There is very much something linking all this. Though I do wonder if Rosie is linked to Lilith, or the rumored Roo. Is this all one plan, or multiple factions all acting at once against/in response to each other. That said, I'm sure Lilith's Deal was with Adam, or maybe Sarah. The Speaker really doesn't seem the type to get involved, and this 'verse seems to go with the concept of God being more a force too vast and unknowable to be directly interacted with then a singular being.

Vegvisir92

even from what we have seen in the show....i think Vox is better than Al

DDayJayke

You know. I always thought Charlie was full-on lesbian. Neat to find out she is Bi.

RF

On the Rosie thing, the thing is that we were made to believe that she was an Warlord, a Sinner the same as Ali and the others, that is a human who died, went to hell and grew enough power to carve out a territory for herself. But, her deal with Ali was that he would be the "most powerful Sinner in Hell," which means Rosie has to be even more powerful than that. Power wise, even the strongest Sinners don't measure up to the Gotia/Nobles like Stolas, and the Sins are even way more powerful. Plus, Ali was able to contact Rosie from Earth, which is severely restricted to heads of Noble Families like Stolas used to be or the Sins. So it seems, like Rosie is not a Sinner like we were led to believe, but instead is a Gotia or maybe even a Sin in disguise.

OrangeHeartGamer

So It could be that Rosie's specifically the one with plans for Charlie, but I also wonder if maybe It's someone who Rosie has made another deal with higher up the chain. Maybe Lilith? idk. I feel like the reveal on Rosie's deal might have an extra layer or two that aren't being hinted at yet.

Leviathan

Alicia, if you haven't, you have to watch Daisies and Upside Down by Black Gryphon on youtube! It's hazbin hotel related, and is tied in to alastors backstory!!

Dave the Sasquatch

Ok so, Nifty is voiced by Kimiko Glenn. Who also voices Horse in Centaur world. which is another bright, colorful yet surprisingly dark animated musical and Alicia OMG PLEASE WATCH CENTAUR WORLD!!!!!

DLCDallas

I'm of the same belief. I don't get the appeal of Alastor, then again I also don't understand why people simp over Dahmer.

Carlos

Hilarious that the homophobic news anchor simps Vox who just has gay sex with Valentino

MaxValion

Damnit, I think Valentino is actually growing on me. Just keep him far away from Angel, and he might even end up being an enjoyable character.

thedangmaster

18:30 I started laughing.... I knew how it would snowball

Eric

To be honest, I think they are building Alastor to be an end game villain. We have been shown that he's not as charming and charismatic as one may think, he's an irredimable monster, an absolute psicopath, and if he's a people pleaser is cause he's forced to be, the moment he's free he's just gonna kill everyone until he's bored. And I think he's plan is to control Lucifer through his daughter, his only weak point. He has the deal with her, but now he will also have her gratitude. What will happen when the final showdown comes and the Vees fight Charlie and Vox is unable to hurt her cause the deal with Alastor? Charlie as the pice of angel cake she is will obviouslly think "Oh my god, Alastor sacrificed his dignity in public to protect me."

Latrios (Coen van Haaster)

It's also hilarious how people continue to be surprised that homophobic dead people are in hell. like, what would you expect?

Cody Giovinazzo

He's Also under control kinda and lost to Adam

Lunafan1k

Charlie needs media training...

BakaSama

Rosie went from being just a fun member of the supporting cast to an actual player in the main plot and I’m very curious to learn more. We can tell from this episode she’s something other and more powerful than a sinner, and it seems fairly obvious she’s involved somehow involved in the events of seven years ago with Lilith’s disappearance and Alastor going radio dark. We just don’t know how.

Dyno

I saw one comment that got me thinking. What if Alastor let himself be captured, because it would make Vox here more powerful than himself? Thereby forcing Rosie to amp up Alastor again, in order to maintain her end of the bargain. Either Alastor's let off his leash, because she doesn't hold up her offer of "The strongest sinner in hell", or she repairs all the damage done in order to put him back over Vox in strength.

Bologna Amputation

That's an interesting angle. I think it's the Charlie part that might be the linchpin - I think he's trying to provoke her into killing Vox, with Vox being unable to strike back due to said deal. Your angle's making me second guess that though.

Wil DeYoung

It kind of feels like Alastor is trying to force a clash between the Vees and Charlie or something as a way to get Vox to break the deal. I don't know what happens if the deal is broken but maybe Alastor gains a bunch of power from it.

Abberron

I think Alastor needs to find Lilith

Stephanie Rose Allen

I think that maybe Rosie is Lilith in disguise It's a theory I heard floating around in the more I look at it the more it makes sense She kind of has the same body type as Lilith She's way into musicals And some of her dialogue almost feels like foreshadowing in the context of this theory "Well who HASN'T thought of eating their first husband? I certainly would have if he didn't taste so bad!" "Romance? My specialty!" "It can be difficult to admit to things you're not proud of. Especially when those things hurt the ones you love." Also, she's kind of taken on a maternal role for Charlie . . . I don't know I just feel like the theory has a lot of credence

Kisuko

I kinda need Vaggie to snap at Charlie, cause she's been WAAAY too kind to her and Charlie just keeps ignoring EVERY. SINGLE. ADVICE. Like, the first time it could have been ok, because she didn't know, but after so many times, Charlie is starting to become an unlikeable character for me, cause she can't seem to learn from her mistakes, we now have "wasted" 2 episodes about her trying to reason with rage-baiters, and to make it worse, she somehow expected them to believe her BOTH TIMES WITHOUT ANY EVIDENCE. "Redemption works, my source? trust me" "Vox lied, my source? trust me" NO CHARLIE, HELL DOESN'T TRUST IN GENERAL, THAT'S THE POINT AND YOU SHOULD KNOW

Derek Sanchack

Alicia is Nifty confirmed! Anime rat queen! =^) Given that Nuxtaku has long since been confirmed to be Sir Pentious, we now have the VTuber alter egos of two of this show's characters confirmed. Who's next?

GoldArthur

Keep in mind that Angel is not his only victim. He has countless. Angel is just the only one we've spent time getting to know as an audience. In fact, Angel is probably treated well compared to his lower earning workers.

GoldArthur

Nux is closer to Baxter I think.

GoldArthur

Yeah, I mean, 90% of the people that would be in hell would be homophobic. And I'm not even saying that's why. Probably 90% of Heaven too. Just based on the time periods most of those people would be from.

Beryl Strifeclaw

Luffy also wouldn't be able to be pirate king without his crew, so in my mind Vox is actually in the right here. At least about friends vs not friends.

Silent Storm

I cannot believe Charlie Code Geass'd herself on live TV...

Error_Artz

Crazy that there was a fan comic involving Vox and Alistor's backstory, it was almost 1:1 to what they showed in this episode, with Alistor mocking Vox, and saying they were never friends, and that was not long after S1 finished, fan theories be wild and I love it

Professor Harmless

Crack Theory: Alastor is the hell equivalent of an incorporated investment portfolio, with Rosie as the fund manager. A bunch of overlords got together to invest souls in a shared pile, that slowly accrues more souls over time.

Bologna Amputation

I think he's trying to engineer Charlie killing Vox, both to rid himself of Vox, but also to harden Charlie to whatever greater purpose he has in mind for her.

MaxValion

It's a matter of story focus. If you first experience the villain through the emotional prism of their victim that you emphasize with, you will hate them. If you focus on other factors instead, the villain becomes much more likeable, even though it doesn't change their actions. For example, if the character from "Hazbin Guarantee" song was not some nameless sinner girl who antagonized Charlie but rather a character we got attached to, and if we took time diving into her emotions instead of speedrunning her downfall with a catchy song, it would have been devastating, and the Vees would have all been perceived as the disgusting people they are. But that's the beauty of fictional villains. Depending on the story focus they can feel entertaining and charismatic while doing the same bad thing that would have made them just awful with a different point of perspective.

Hollowjac

he was rejected by the very person he looked up to, that lead to him becoming a more prominent threat later on. Vox is literally syndrome from incredibles.

Miklar Sihn

I love Nifty's song. Every single positive thing she says about the hotel is in Japanese and the moment she has to say something negative, she switches to english.

Sam Smith

not gonna lie, the fact that the exterminations have only been going on for seven years really lowered the stakes. i thought this had been going on for millennia with the angels standing supreme. seven measly years was a bit of a let down but i guess it makes sense.

Esra

Yeah, the fact that Sinners are functionally immortal outside of angelic steel/angelic powers means that the centuries of overlords should matter, as well as Charlie and Lucifer's immortality. But 7 years of extermination, Alastor gone for 7 years, and Lilith gone for 8 gives a plot important timeline. But again, immortality. could have at least made it 30 years or something, but the exterminations definitely felt like a much longer term thing. I wish they had been for longer, but i understand what they were going for.

Miguel Aarón García

Theory time: We know that Hell wasn't created by Lucifer, nor by Heaven just to contain him. It existed before the Original Sin, it was just drawn to the humans thanks to Lucifer. Then, now Lucifer is Ruler of Hell, and Sin of Pride... but, he is NOT Hellborn. So, what about the original Sin of Pride? And the Ring of Pride Hellborn? Wich takes me to the fact that the cannibals are all eerily similar. They al resemble Rosie, and we've seen that hellborn tend to resemble their Lord of Sin. That makes me believe, that Rosie is the Sin of Pride, and she's somehow scheming to get rid of Lucifer and reclaim her position. That, or something even more obscure: that Rosie is the fabled Roo (Root of Evil, the character Viv is most excited to introduce). In all her designs, even though she wears a longcoat, she also has a wide-brimmed hat, not unlike the one Rosie wears. What is clear, is that Rosie IS NO SINNER IN ANY WAY. It just doesn't make sense for her to be able to bestow enough power to become Hell's strongest Sinner, unless she herself has an absurd amount of power. I'm really looking forward to see how things develop.

Skyraider 2404

Vox really became that universes version of Syndrome from the Incredibles Also i have a theory, Rosie is an Overlord and no mere Overlord can make someone the strongest sinner and her power is similar colour to heaven and holy power. I believe Rosie and Lillith are the same person. Think about it, Lillith wanted to start an uprising so why would she be in heaven unless she made a deal, cast aside all the sinful intentions and ties with her family. Those intentions took the form of Rosie which also explains why Rosie wanted Alastor to go to the hotel to look after Charlie and explains why she was supportive in season 1

Aiko

Listen Alicia if there's one thing you are going to find in hell it's homophobes, so don't be surprised

BigKez0

I have some crack theories & predictions for the following episodes. First is that Rosie is in fact Eve or some manifestation of, or has a direct connection to Lilith - the fact that she would be able to make Alastor the most powerful sinner would require way more power an ordinary sinner could have in the same way Adam was the first human soul in heaven but was so much more powerful than heaven born angels and overlords, i think Rosie is gonna be the same plus her contract "chains" look very angelic/holy not to mention her and the cannibals' love of song more so than anyone else we've seen thus far apart from charlie. Second is an absolute shot in the dark but in this season maybe the next few episodes we're gonna get some helluva boss crossover maybe the hotel having to protect stolas from Vox & Alastor since he's vulnerable now and they need a show of strength killing a royal.

TSP247

I have been wanting to see more of Vox/ vincent and this was a great episode for that.

Morten Plindstrup

Im pretty certain Alastor loosing to vox is a way for him to get out of the deal. To basically put Rosie in a place where ''either fix my staff and do what you promised, or admit I am not the strongest sinner in hell, and thereby admit you have broken our bargain'' Is my thought on alastor's choice specifically.

Brittany Allison

Katie Killjoy has been homophobic since the pilot. That's just a character trait of her specifically.

Brittany Allison

Let's not forget that Vox was a cult leader in life. He was already a terrible person before Alastor

Dooba Dooba

Does him being a cult leader make him a terrible person? We dont know what his actual sin was

Brittany Allison

Yes. Being a cult leader makes you a bad person. Do you know what a cult is? He got off on feeling like a god.

Speed1247

Them and bigots, I'm honestly surprised she was surprised.

Aiko

Me too

Skyraider 2404

Not really imo. Rejection hurts, i think we all no that, but using that crashout as the excuse to create mass murder. That ain't valid my dude, that's just pettiness on a mass scale

JWagsWasHere

Shes not homophobic! she just hates gay people.

Rose and Elly

To add to your theory (which is one of my theories as well), during Season 1 Episode 7, when helping Charlie with her conflicted feelings toward Vaggie, everything Rosie said about actions speaking louder than words would equally apply to herself if she is indeed Charlie's mom. IE: "I know my (lack of) words hurt you, but look at my actions (sending Alistar to your hotel, helping you today, etc) and understand that I still love you."

Rose and Elly

A little late to the party, but I'm gonna toss in a Rosie theory. So, there's a weird background character called "Roo" short for the "Root of Evil." There's a mural of her at one point, and some believe that the eyes around hell are her eyes. The only time I recall her being mentioned by name is during Helluva Boss Season 1 Episode 1 when Cannibal Mom prays to "the Root of Evil". I'm gonna repeat that - the Cannibal Mom prays to Roo. Alistair, a cannibal serial killer, prays to unspecified demons of hell and gets Rosie. Rosie is the leader of cannibal town. **slaps crazy theory string cork board** Roo and Rosie are the same person! That's how Rosie can make Alistair the most powerful sinner, above even the other overlords. Because she isn't an overlord - she's Roo. And yes, this absolutely conflicts with the Rosie is Lilith theory below. I subscribe to two theories. Like Schrodinger's Cat, I await more data to collapse the waveform.