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Steven Universe S5 17+18 (Patreon)

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starcrier

Fun fact the first time Pearl shuts herself by reflex is the first episode so that part of the character was there from the very beginning

Lotan

there has ALWAYS been hints to pink diamond since season 1

Matrim

A little sad you overlooked just how many phone numbers Rizzmaster Pearl pulled when she was looking through her inventory.

Shrapnel

I think they were trying to gaslight you so it would be a good reaction. I don't think it's right, but...

Caison

Gaslight successful, well done lads

Liliwyn

To be fair, I'm sure plenty of people just wanted to make sure not to end up spoiling anything by acknowledging your theories, so then the only real way to even *try* to cover things up as to preserve some notion of surprise was to gaslight and whatnot. Which isn't a *great* idea, mind, but when there's always going to be *someone* who elsewise confirms or spoils stuff, having a deluge of countercommentary ends up at least coming from a place of trying to prevent spoilers that might ruin the surprise. Even if it's kinda ridiculous to try and "protect" a reactor from spoiling *themselves* by just putting the pieces together in advance. Though... definitely at least a few who just like any excuse to rag on someone, which are probably where the worst of the "you be stupid" kinda shiz ended up coming from.

Avery Corvus

One small detail that would've helped blow this open early: Everyone talks about her sword being the one that shattered Pink Diamond. But when Steven brought back Bismuth, she saw the sword and described it as 'I made that for Rose; she wanted a sword that could poof gems but could not shatter them'

Wumpafruit

"Rose Quartz kept many secrets" "BUT NOT FROM ME"

Verdigree

Dang, I feel like seen I’ve the comments pull this trick on like 3 or 4 times, I don’t know if it’s really as necessary as some people seem to think

Darc Hart94

And there it is, the big reveal that pink diamond and rose quartz were indeed the same. No matter what pink tried yellow and blue would not allow her to leave the earth alone and allow life to continue existing so she felt she had to become someone else and take it back by force. What I don't like is how much the fandom and the show itself begins treating rose like she was bad because we literally saw all of her character development and how much she tried to fix the mistakes she had made

랑칼 카

It doesn't matter if you make strange guesses about the story. I don't know what others have said, but I like your diverse perspectives, Elisha. When we watch together, we can imagine the next episode, and if we've already seen the work, we can compare how the story would turn out if it followed your narrative. Thank you always for your fun reactions. I'm not sure if the translation came out well.

DaniDeFig

And now we know why Pearl basically never shapeshifts, even though we know she can. I also love the Lapis episode. Like you said: we were SO close! "That Distant Shore" is one of my absolute favourite songs.

Cassandra

We who theorized this while it was airing went through the same shit. People were so hostile to Steven Diamond theorists.

JuanmaRailgun

I genuinely did not remember that Lapis episode. Like even know, I have zero memories of watching it a first time. EDIT: Oh wait, I realize why. The last bit with the dream overtook all the other memories

Justin Payne

Don't worry alicia, this will surely be the last time a community gaslights you on anything you guess seasons in advance nah but fr tho, I feel like now that you can expect it, if you get flamed for one of your theories there's like a solid 75% chance you're RIGHT on track

Grim

From what I've heard, when steven universe was airing there were people who had theories that rose was pink diamond, They were also called idiots

Darc Hart94

Alicia you have to understand why we couldn't just tell you that you were correct right?

Speed1247

Note that bismuth said the blade couldn't shatter a gem. This is a point most people forget despite it being a plot point of those episodes. Had anyone actually looked into it they would have found that.

Speed1247

This. It's screaming plot hole but people forget about it.

Sam Marsh

I’m sorry that so many people tried to gaslight you Alicia, but in their defence, the revelation that Rose was Pink Diamond is such a pivotal point in the story, not to mention that I’m sure for some people (like myself) it’s one of the best plot twists of all time. If it makes you feel better, when the show was airing a few people came up with Rose/Pink theory and most fans treated them like crackpots. Boy, did we have egg on our faces when they turned out to be right.

Sam Marsh

I’d like to point out the amount of phone numbers Pearl has collected. Initially she had so many confidence and codependency issues, and now I’m so proud of what a bold little player she’s become.

Nathan

Classic Alicia, pausing 2 seconds before the big reveal!

Boomstick715

Let those commenters have it Queen!

Hoboffet

You know the people who called you stupid just did it to throw ya off

Mickey

To be fair, some of the things you were using to theory craft were wrong. Like when you said we never saw another Rose Quartz.

Hyhyd

That Distant Shore is SUCH AN UNDERRATED SONG! So beautiful and reflective of Lapis’s growth and attachment to Peridot and her friends. Also… it’s finally time. (Congratulations Alicia, you were right)

Hyhyd

Wait really? When do we see that?

Hyhyd

We were literally a bunch of Pearls shushing ourselves for this Steben Uniberse

Nota-Kun Inc.

A lot of people who theory craft end up realizing rose was pink diamond really early so I think everyone essentially just gaslight Alicia so it’d still technically be a surprise lol

Hyhyd

Also seeing Alicia go into feral chihuahua mode after her theory being confirmed, absolutely worth it.

Couchy !

WE GASLIT YOU BECAUSE YOU’RE TOO DAMN SMART FOR YOUR OWN GOOD GIRL! It hurt but What choice did we have!… 🫠😭

Elias Cristerna

You want to know something hilarious? This revelation of the true nature of Steven's gem was blatently stated to us in the non-canon crossover episode Say Uncle. Specifically when Uncle Grandpa examines Steven's gem with a jeweler's loupe, he comments on how he should get it polished twice a year. The thing is quartz crystals don't need to be polised, but diamonds do prefeably twice a year.

Kris

It's also just a way to make her feel like a lot of us fans at the time. There was a HUGE debate within the fandom about the Rose = Pink Diamond theory that went on for YEARS. Her reaction to the reveal is like how a lot of us felt when they finally confirmed this. IT. WAS. LIBERATING!

Harus Streit

It just reminds me of (I think it was) something that Ant said. It was along the lines of "When you keep predicting the twist, it ruins the reveal for those who were waiting for your reaction."

King of flames

A bit sad this reveal got a little ruined for you by annoying comments

SimpleSimian

Alicia this show is old and commenters probably already knew. I think they were trying to misguide you to keep the surprise of the twist.

Kaz

Good gaslighting peeps

LayzeCage

Lmao people were really backseat theorycrafting

Malcorpse

Rose being Pink Diamond isn't the fandoms best kept secret but we try

BakaSama

And we’re finally here! This is the moment I wait for every time I see someone start reacting to Steven Universe. Such a fun and amazing twist! I’ve gotta say I’m impressed that Alicia was basically able to figure it out when she did. I don’t know that I’ve seen anyone else figure it out before the show spells it out.

Joey245

I know it's overshadowed by the reveals of A Single Pale Rose, but I LOVE Lapis's song in Can't Go Back. It's so...her. And as my favorite gem, it was so hype to hear her finally sing when the show was coming out. Great stuff!

TurdManJones

Gosh Alicia you're so stupid. His mom isn't Pink Diamond, it was Pearl all along.

Jordan Barnes

FIVE. SEASON. ARC. It’s so fucking hard to keep this secret from people throughout the entire show, especially since all you have to do is look up the voice cast and you’ll be spoiled *instantly*.

thedangmaster

These 2 episodes are so wonderfully done! The Layers that is to pearl is so masterfully visualized

thedangmaster

I remember this plothole just hanging around for weeks while people were waiting for episodes. The 5th season really was a ride when it came out slowly

shoggothRust

Remember the uncle grandpa episode, he looked at Steven's gem and said, "make sure to polish it twice a year". HE KNEW

EnderSlayer366

ALICIA NO DON'T SPIT ON AND DEGRADE THEM! YOU'RE PROBABLY GIVING THEM EXACTLY WHAT THEY WANT

xman t

We did such a good job at making sure she would be surprised at the confirmation that she hates us for it lol

Coryn Silver

In our defense Alicia, the creator of the show told US for YEARS, SWORE TO US that the Rose = Pink Diamond theories were wrong, only to finally slam us with this episode. Of COURSE we’d lie to you and try to make you second guess your theory. Being lied to for seasons at a time was a core part of the SU experience!

Vincent Price

the commenters who kept saying your stupid for your theory crafting cause they wanted to throw you off the trail..............I hope. that or they reeeeeeally stupid

YukoValis

Love you Alicia! Honestly I much rather have you gas lighted than spoiled.

nervouspirate

"Rose isn't Pink Diamond, idiot" that was us coping that the surprise was ruined

James Mitchell

FINALLY! I have been looking forward to is episode since you started this series and it did not disappoint. Your reaction was hilarious.

AnotherWeeb

it's not a sword that CAN'T shatter gems. It just doesn't shatter them inherently. It cuts through the hard light of their physical forms but is no more effective at damaging the gemstone than any regular sword. If you bash it against a poofed gem hard enough, that gem's gonna crack

Ed-96

Your face in the thumbnail tells me everything lol

Kjolt

im so happy we finally got here

Faroth

this sets up a very important lore: a Gem cant dissobey, even if want it, to a Diamond's order as long as they remain loyal to that Diamond Pearl was still loyal to Pink while Pink was Rose, so the order was still on effect on her and she cant physically dissobey her but she found a loophole to told steven,s he didnt "speak" of that, so she "show him" the truth we see this later with Garnet too, she didnt question herselves because Rose said it, it was "an order", then, the moment they realized that Rose was Pink, they stopped being loyal to Rose and the order was broken This piece of lore is very important because it means that as a long as a gem is loyal to their diamond, they will keep the orders they command on them

Faroth

Another clue it was giving that you overlooked: Bismuth mentioned that Rose's sword was capable of poffing any gem, but it was made so it couldnt shatter them, so for starters, that sword cant shatter any gem, much less a diamond

SweetCandle

Grandfather from The Princess Bride: Yes, you're very smart. Shut up.

XanderDPanda

Love that Alicia went full 80's Snarf with anger

Kalinka

Alicia don't be too mad or even insecure about theorys. people have to call you stupid because if we were to just confirm your theorys and spoil everything you'd be mad in a worse way

0ddman

My favorite part about this reveal is the fact that Pearl isn't the only one who told us that Rose was PD. Uncle Grandpa told Steven to polish his gem at least twice, which if you know about gems you really only do if they are diamonds

Marcello Reyes

LOL! We couldn't exactly confirm your theories.

Cole Savoie

Fun Fact! Technically ANY gem can make another Steven but only a Gem as powerful as a diamond could hold the shapeshift long enough for the whole pregnancy

The Awesome A

what i find a bit vexing is Alicia pauses way to quickly because its kind of redundant as you trying what they mean when they literally about to tell her but I do get she is she is sorting out and telling us her thoughts. In the long the twist is not that hard to figure out so people trying to gaslight her into thinking she is wrong are stupid, let her be satisfied that she got it right because now she is smug about it as well as mad about it (also sorry this long I doubt Alicia will read this all)

jbee02

So let me get this straight. You were getting to close to the truth with your fan theories so the fan base collectively decided to gas light you away from the truth in the comment section... That's hilarious. The Steven universe fan base is the best. They take spoilers seriously🤣🤣🤣

Ramizis

nah, bro she's not Pink Diamond. You're so wrong

Miles Shepard

I always think the way Lapis says that the moon sucks is so funny and cute

Ektopos

Gaslight, Gatekeep, Steven Universe. Couldn't have her knowing the plot before the plot plots. but never call someone dumb for theory crafting. That's a big no no

sebas hernandez

Your theories are just too good, we need to gaslight you so you don't hit the nail in the head every-single-time alicia!!

Capped Pluto

We knew that you knew that we knew you were getting close, so reverse phycology or whatnot so that we knew that you didn't knew that rose was pink diamond... Knewception

S Le

The funny thing is that Say Uncle gave so many hints about this, including how Steven should clean his gem twice a year. You don’t need to do that with a rose quartz, but you should clean a diamond twice a year.

cry_w

I can't but feel thankful to them for the entertaining bout of rage that came from their effort. I kid, of course...

MatthiasTheWanderer

Those theories actually predate the reveal that the diamonds were existing characters.

Mimik Dude

I am so happy you finally got to that episode and I love that every pearl inside of pearl's pearl hair was pink instead of the color she throughout the show

YukoValis

That would have sucked if Alicia knew gemlore and got spoiled that way. lol

Okarun

not the fuck youuu fuck you fuck you... you're cool, and fuck you I'm out!

Demara

Been catching up and been waiting for this episode, but yeah... You clocked it WAY early on.

Thorbjørn Steen

Just because something doesn't get mentioned out loud doesn't mean its been missed.

Waistband Hiker

Alicia is a god tier theorist and we deserve the bullying and chewing out lol. I was floored when you pieced it together. Genuinely amazing

Buraku Sama

We had to gaslight you girl. Couldn't afford spoiling anything 😂😂😂

King'sBard

Man, Patreon just isn't giving me notifications

Dip Ateer

Gaslighting is fun sometimes.

Brendon Blouin

Alicia: Is Rose Pink diamond? All the rats: gaslight ? yea gaslight her

Daisy Azuras

Did people actually say mean things to Alicia when she guessed that Rose was pink? I mean, I understand trying to keep her from figuring it out but why would people say mean things to her that just doesn’t seem right

Jackie

That's crazy, they really did hint at it for the entire show 😭

ben elea

I love the rage from the community gaslighting Alicia to keep her guessing. XD

Devin Veal

That's fair. Some people just couldn't wrap their head around it until it was shown. I caught on after they explained what pearls are. A "Ownerless pearl"? Pearls are quite obviously explained as custom made for VIPs. A ownerless one wouldn't exist. Then when they flash back to earlier Pearl she has that pink hair on top of her being constantly devoted to Rose. They drop so many hints before the plot itself does.

Rose and Elly

I'm a little sad that your skillful demonstration of literary analysis (spotting that Rose is Pink early) hit up against anti-spoiler philosophy so fiercely that people derided you for your correct theorycrafting. I very much enjoy seeing a person put the pieces together for themselves, and getting gaslit over it is not fun. I'm sorry you had to deal with that.

Ok

They can’t say “you’re correct” too 😝

TSP247

I love lapis so much as a character.

Otomos

Just now realizing that Lapis is FAST fast. She flew outside the Milky Way and back?!

Kaleigh

When you started theory crafting way back when, my mouth popped open because you got it so right so fast. But I’m so glad that with the exception of a few hater comments that your people never spoiled it for you and they let you have that moment of oh my God. Cause it is one of the most powerful moments in cartoon history in my opinion.

ChillWaldo

I'm surprised, people are justifying calling you stupid for this moment. Crazy that they felt good calling you stupid instead of just not saying anything.

Random3x

another Alicia classic of pausing lliteral second before her theorising is revealed to be the case

noneyabiss

You say gaslight, i say reverse spoil.

Michael Isle

I'm in a binge of this so obviously my pov is different from many of the comments on previous videos & here. I think the only thing that made me irritated about Alicia being right was the amount of times where it was a moment of doing the math wrong but getting the right answer anyways lol. Like saying a few episodes ago "Rose quartz is a unique gem so maybe she's pink diamond!" When we saw hundreds of bubbled rose quartz gems in the human zoo is a good example of it. It's like no! Wrong! but.... if you're told you're right but from bad info it's spoilers too. Truly a lose lose situation. Granted commenters have no justification to be nasty. Y'all can eat sand. But hey it's about what I expect from Alicia at this point. I watched all of her reactions to one piece too. This happens often enough it's practically pattern. XD

Taylor Lapira

And don't forget, Pearl didn't know what a phone number was when the mysterious girl gave her her number in the episode where they went to the concert, and since that's the first time in a long time that Pearl has tried to socialise with humans, it's entirely possible she's pulled all those numbers in the last year or two

Squirrel

Remember the "Garnet's Universe" episode where Steven makes up a story about Garnet's day? The "power gem" in that episode is diamond shaped, until Ringo rotates it and slots it into his hair ring, exactly like Pink's gem is rotated in Steven's belly.