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Barre Tab: Abby-Phobic (S4, E24)

  • I actually agree with Abby 19
  • Absolutely not 472
  • 2025-06-11
  • 491 votes
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Did Kenzie deserve to be pulled from the dance? Sound off in the comments! We'll read the best ones on the pod

Comments

Emily Sullivan

i feel like the whole show, all the kids really got the short end of the stick when being told they’re a crybaby or immature but i think mackenzie had some of the worst of that. as some of the girls are turning like 11 and 12 she was still 9!! that’s such a huge difference in emotional maturity. she didn’t know what to do and was less equipped because she had years of not always being in the group dances either. i felt like it was unfair

Alayna Carabo

It was hypocritical of Abby (shocking) to pull Kenzie from the dance. She has in the past made comments to the girl about how they have to suck it up and push through regardless of how they felt/the abilities they have. She pulled Kenzie because she was scared of studio Blu and it backfired.

William Grubbs

Abby is always a bitch like the Irish always say Feck Off! to Abby of course not you to bitches y’all are awesome

1shouldersequin

Personally, what might look like a fault on Mackenzie’s part, is yet again another example of why Abby’s teaching methods are inadequate. It’s clear that Mackenzie has the dance ability and experience, however her complete panic in that moment is a testament to the weakened self-efficacy that Abby’s teaching creates. It’s such a shame to see, things would likely be completely different if Abby had focused on building their confidence and accepting mistakes as opportunities to improve, then there would not be a need for these moments of panic from the girls. Especially seeing as rehearsals are the time to make mistakes. Poor Mackenzie, being in a room full of older students, the head dance demon herself PLUS a full camera crew 😭🫠

Pia

I feel like kenzies trauma from the show is often overlooked. She must’ve felt neglected in a sense.

Steven Kaufman

Poor Kenzie always getting the short end of the stick. She really had a phobia of Abby Lee.

Lizzy 💕

I don’t think Kenzie deserved to be pulled out, she’s a child and in that moment she felt upset and cried, Abby always said she was a cry baby but she literally is a baby, she’s only a CHILD, they all were. It just shows how Abby has no empathy or compassion towards the girls

Shreky homecky

Based on the improv challenge, Kenzie shouldn’t have been removed but even 12 year old me could see it was just production needing to make sure both teams were in the same age group. It’s cold of production and Abby to manipulate things so that Kenzie feels like it’s her own fault she was excluded when she clearly never had a shot of being in the dance. (I also want to say this dance is completely slept on and is probably my favourite along with Twilight. Their movement has such a mature, graceful quality and their facial expressions are impeccable. These five as a group worked so fricking well!!!)

JohnMonty03

No Abby just being a chicken shit per usual and intentionally setting her own students up to fail. Simply sad, but wouldn’t expect anything less from hell on wheels

The cookie in abby’s purse

Clearly production must have brought her cold food again cause WTF WAS THAT?! Poor Kenz is just trying to run from a bug 🐜 and got a little stressed …. we all do it 😭

Linzers

I dont think Mckenzie being pulled had anything to do with Mckenzie. Poor Kenzie's fear to dance in front of everyone was just a convenient excuse for Abby to pull her.

Kelly’s screenshots!

Kenzie always seemed anxious when asked to improv and I think Abby set her up and was looking for an excuse to pull her so she could avoid Studio Bleu.

April Bailey

This was a setup from the beginning of the episode. The producers and Abby created all the idiotic drama with the girl's ages. As far as Kenzie goes, she was used in the entire scheme of things. I felt so bad that the girls were tortured by that "Old Hag", and were threatened with lawsuits if they tried to leave the team.

Nikita Wheeler

I think Kenzie had more classes than the others because for the first two years of the show she was barely in dances for the show, so when the other girls were rehearsing numbers for the show she would have been in regular classes with her regular group…

Cara Ellen

Okay first I just have to tell you both a story that the other day me and my roommate, who is also named Kelly, were watching dance moms and I turned on a random episode and she said from the kitchen oh is that a Kendall solo? And it was! I got her into dance moms our freshman year of college and now she has watched it so much and listened to me talk about this podcast that she knows what type of music a certain dancer would get on the show. If that doesn’t prove everything you guys say I don’t know what will! Lol but in regards to this question, As a dancer I can say that improving is one of the hardest things to do for certain people, I for one HATE to improv I would rather be told what to do whilst others love it. I totally understood mackenize in that moment and I hated that Abby chose that moment to use as the reason she wasn’t in the dance even though we all know that was set up from the beginning.