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Melissa’s Deflection Fly

a few thoughts on this episode - this dance being called straight outta pittsburgh when half these dancers are straight outta other studios in other fucking states kills me - jill was dead wrong in this episode for talking to brynn the way she did n im surprised ashlee didn’t blow up more. if someone spoke to my kid, i’m pulling a kelly on them.no hate to jill but i thought we weren’t supposed to bring the kids into it - half the time abby speaks they don’t actually show her mouth moving or her saying the words ??? it’s weird

Justin

The best part of the Jill and Ashlee fight was Melissa saying "Nia can't even see herself in the mirror" as it literally shows Nia looking at herself in the mirror 😭😭😭

Brieanna Hynish

You mentioned earlier in the podcast that Abby generally worked with the teens and seniors more, do you know if this idea for a minis team was purely Abby being like fuck the teens I’m moving on and not having to deal with her past actions and moms history with her, or was this an idea purely from production? I’ve always wondered that when Abby I’m assuming knew she had legal issues coming for her. I am a dance teacher and a mom and love this podcast and have basically studied this show from my perspective and I can’t wrap my head around wanting to start w minis I didn’t train while having a successful Junior/teen group that’s on a freakin tv show! Love you guys so much!,,, Ps come to Tampa fl!!!

Brieanna Hynish

I’m about to rewatch this episode before we get our bttb I’m gonna have to watch for the Abby comment that is interesting and I agree with you soooooo much!

CarlyR

Check out my speak pipe I left a few months ago about one of the mini moms acting "Abby crazy" after appearing on the show!!

Brieanna Hynish

Shes gotta say something to pretend like she’s actually doing her dance mom duties

Melissa’s Deflection Fly

i thought the same. i was thinking that maybe she saw these minis and their moms as a new source of income for when the junior elites end up moving on. dance teacher always has an ulterior motive

Brieanna Hynish

I honestly think she was done because she could see that the zieglers were independent of her technically and I really think she didn’t want to answer to Holly who had been very strong last season and Jill was about to fire her as manager and she just wanted Brynn and minis which is ironic cause that’s what actually happens….. she is her worst enemy.

NicoleWhy

The mini team was pretty awful but it did lead to the gift that is Yolanda

Brieanna Hynish

Omfg was she made for reality tv, her fight w Lilly’s mom is WILD the fact that she comes in season 8 and denies what is literally on video happening….. ugh the stress Eliana goes through on this show is horrid and her mom is the villain for her not Abby at all. Shes her own arc on this show

Jacqueline Paige

The mini team is better than the select team

Jacqueline Paige

Not dance wise drama wise and entertaining wise

Justin

I hated how all of the moms were backing up Jill the entire episode but considering how they all act towards Brynn throughout the season it shouldn't be surprising

Katelyn Mothersbaugh

Abby’s logic that she should get credit or a percentage of the girls pay for every professional job one of her past students does is like my college professors wanting to earn a percentage of my salary because of what I learned in their classes.

Gillyan Fiddes

Not a hot take, but I’d love to hear what nicknames Christi would give to these crazy moms like she did for the select team 🤪. Much love from your Tartan Army friend 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

Keri

At this time she was probably hoping for just a fine. The teen group moms were stale. Abby wanted a restart.

Keri

While recapping Season 6 could you include what was happening legally with Abby.

Brianna Burton

- Do you guys think if Christi and Chloe came in as a guest they would have been treated better bc Chloe was so good and had all that natural talent and technique?

Brianna Burton

- Why were some of the people in the reunion audiences from other lifetime shows?

Brianna Burton

If you guys were locked in a room with Abby and you could tell her or say anything to her and she was going to really listen, what would you say?

Brianna Burton

- This is around the time that the host from afterbuzz tv dance moms recap show was heavily involved behind the scenes. Was that normal to have guests interviewing the moms and girls in between scenes and filming. He even traveled with them to Australia and the LA studio. I’m curious about this because I assumed that it would be a closed set considering there are children working.

Brianna Burton

- Why do you think so many people made excuses and continue to make excuses for the way abby treated the girls?

Brianna Burton

- Why did Maddie and Kenzies dad stop coming to the competitions after season 1? He’s shown a few times in the audience in the first season and then we never see him again.

Brianna Burton

Would you guys have signed on to be on the mini team after seeing how they are portrayed on the show?

Brianna Burton

Do you think Abby really liked the mini team?

Brianna Burton

HOT TAKE: I think the mini moms didn’t do as well with the audience because they weren’t as attractive

Brianna Burton

Who out of the mini team would your girls have gone up against if they were the same age and why

Brianna Burton

Why does Yolanda have beef with Christ?

Brianna Burton

Some of the minis claim that the girls were mean and bratty. What do you guys think they meant by that and do you think them being teens played a role in how they behaved to guests

Brianna Burton

Hot take: I think Melissa knew she was almost done filming for good and couldn’t wait to finally say what she wanted.

Brianna Burton

Hot take: Melissa got so close with Jill throughout her time on the show because Jill was always okay with Kendal being second to Maddie. Melissa liked that Jill didn’t challenge her and that Kendal was given disadvantages to guarantee Maddie’s placement. Melissa would’ve liked Christi more if she was willing to have Chloe be in second

I don’t have a problem area, I’m a problem

As much as Abby wanted this mini team to be "the future of the ALDC", she really put in zero effort with their choreography. It was the same dance every week: each one does a move and then they all do the same three 8 counts, all do a pose, rinse repeat. If she was going to ignore the teens for the minis, she should have at least made it worth it.

Jann Schmidt

Toronto in November?!? What are you thinking?

Liz DiscoBall

My hot take is that I couldn’t stand Ashlee. I found her to be so aggressive and rude. She frequently went below the belt with the other moms and would often tear down the other girls to build up Brynn (you’ll see in later episodes). I think the other moms really didn’t like Ashlee because she kept asserting that Brynn was “the new Maddie”. I’m not saying how Jill spoke to Brynn is right, but I think Jill more than anyone was aggravated by someone new coming in and being seen as “the new Maddie”.

NicoleWhy

Yolanda and Stacy carried the second half of season 6 and most of 7, they actually hated each other when the og moms were tired. Without Jess they needed the drama

Broadway Baby’s Eye Crust

In early season 6 sometimes I wonder if Abby knew that the Ziegler’s were leaving. What are your thoughts about this? For both of you, it was so hard to get out of the shows contract so surely the Ziegler’s leaving was planned for a long time before being announced on the show? My thoughts on why Abby might have known when season 6 started are based on these loose observations: 1. The emphasis on Brynn becoming “the new Maddie” 2. Abby wasn’t very nice to Mackenzie in this season, from start of season 6 she is more critical of her and you see Mackenzie start to deplete in confidence 3. In previous seasons when Maddie has been on a job, Abby has called Maddie and spoken to her on the phone. In this season, it’s only Melissa filmed on the phone to Maddie 4. Tensions between Abby and Melissa are noticeably raised in season 6 5. Experimenting with a new team 6. When talking to the moms in the pre-season show, Abby talks about the girls growing up and moving onto new things and that they will not be with her forever

Alyssa Nicole

Can you please give your take on Melissa’s YouTube video with John corella where they both said that dance moms was inspired by Maddie and that contradicts what you guys say or is this actually true and she was the one that inspired dance moms? Maybe you guys can watch the clip on the after party start at 5:30 There’s a few of these comments, and Melissa responds to like all of them 🙄