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S6, E4 - Now You See Abby, Now You Don't | AMA & Hot Takes (Patreon)

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2026-09-26 16:00:07
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2026-09

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Justin

I'm not defending what Ashlee said about Jojo at all but it always annoyed me how all of the moms get to say whatever they want about Brynn (including personal attacks) and the moms all laugh but the second Ashlee says something they all act like she committed a murder😭😭

Jaimie

which solo did you like better? my guess is you will like maddie's better, but kelly may like brynns because it has some tricks brooke did since you didnt know maddie/kenzie at this time of their lives is it interesting to see them now more grown up? (kenz now 11 & maddie now 13?)

i just love taylor swift and kelly hyland

i know this is only the first episode with ashlee like full time officially but would either of you have liked to film with her since she does play ball. i know you guys have said you would’ve liked having someone like Jess there with you guys for the same reason so im curious to know if you guys would’ve like having her there with you guys as well

jadeteass

I hated how the moms would always bash Brynn and poke Ashlee with the hot stick and when she responds am they all act outraged. The way Brynn gets treated is prob my least fav plotline in DM history

Carter Giles

would you have enjoyed filming with ashlee? i feel like she would’ve been on more of christi and kelly’s side at least with some of the arguments. she played ball and clearly knew what got the moms pissy i’m not saying she’s always correct with what she says or does but compared to melissa or kira who’s like “i’m not fighting with people this year” or just blames abby/ ignores it i wondered what yall would’ve thought being there with her had yall been in season 6 together

Carter Giles

abby should’ve quit the show at this point and applied for a job at club dance in arizona considering how much she liked working with their dancers😂 no shade to brynn or kalani they’re both wonderful and loved seeing them on the show lol

Blue Jai

Same. Ashlee is definitely not my favorite person on a personal level. But the OGs (which somehow includes Kira and Jessalyn now) are fully disparaging a kid when they say “you say Brynn’s that good, but…” and crucifying Ashlee if she ever responds or compares her kid’s skill level to their kids. It always seems so cliquey and mean girl-ish, especially as it goes on repeatedly. I’m especially surprised Holly is going along to get along with this when she gave us a definition of bullying all the way back in season 2.

I don’t have a problem area, I’m a problem

Why do think Abby "resigned" and if it was really her decision? Do you think she was maybe overwhelmed and refused to film and tried to strong arm her way into quitting or do you think production was forcing her to sit out, either as a punishment for some or to cause drama?

Justin

Omg exactly Jess acting like she's an OG when she hasn't even been there for a year always sends me 😭

Lauren

Unrelated but I would love a deep dive and detailed run through of Kelly’s dress experience for Brooke’s wedding.

Kwinn Perkins

I think there is a double standard when it come to ashely and thing she is and isn't allowed to say. some of the things ashely says are horrible but the double standard is when the other moms like jill and jess pretend that they haven't said the exact same thing or worse about the other girls. Why is it okay for one mom to say things and not the other. I also think while brynn and ashely might have watched the show previously they were new to reality tv and the producers saw the naivety in ashelly and she would say what they wanted her to say.

Nicola Church

I really dislike the way they all treated Brynn apparently there is a podcast or something that Jess says she did it all on purpose and laughs about it . I think Jess was jealous because Brynn was a talented dancer ! I found it hard to watch when they all started bullying her . One particular episode when a mum lies about something and blames Brynn well that was awful and it was amazing to see the other girls stick up for her .

Justin

Oh that is the worst episode of the entire series imo I've never felt so much rage watching something than I did watching that 😭

Jasmyn

Not about the episode, but do you guys think doing the podcast has changed your relationship with the other moms? Like how you guys feel about them and how they feel as a result of you doing the podcast? Just curious if there has been a dynamic shift if you’re comfortable sharing

Anna

Would abbey ever give out to the girls for things they said in interviews that she wasent aware of until the episode aired

Lindsey H

I don’t care for Ashlee and I absolutely love Jill but I have to say, Jill is way more out of line this season about Brynn than Ashlee is about the kids. I am surprised Holly didn’t speak up more about this.

MISS AURA

Off topic, y’all noted many times that Melissa is from Lancaster. So, curious have u guys heard of the true story Murder case of a 16 yr old girl named Laurie Show on Dec 20, 1991 that was made into a documentary movie. As it happened in Lancaster PA, where the teen(Laurie) moved there with her mom after her parents divorce & became close friends with a popular blonde girl at school, later on the blonde girl’s boyfriend ended up trying to take advantage of her at a party, as the blonde friend caught them. The blonde friend was naive, believing her boyfriend accusing Laurie of coming onto him, so the ex blonde friend ended up pregnant & decided to stalked Laurie for months, her job, wherever. As Laurie started to notice, everywhere she went she was there, creeping & staring her down. Everyone at school stopped being friends with the blonde girl because she was obsessing over Laurie ever since. So, Laurie’s moms decided to send Laurie to live with her dad & as she was packed, eventually the blonde got help from the last friend she had using her pregnancy as a crutch & her boyfriend to send Laurie’s mom away pretending to be her job(who was a nurse), they broke into her house & killed the 16 yr old Laurie. Once, Laurie’s mom knew she actually didn’t get a call from work, she rushed home to find her daughter throat slit, taking her last breath & able to tell her mom her last words(which was who did it to her) But, I was wondering have u guys or Melissa ever heard about this from her town. As it is a scary & sad story.

MISS AURA

The murders are still being trailed till this very day in their 40‘s-50‘s, with the side kick murder still with no remorse… crazy

BlueMuppetFurVest

this has nothing to do with the episode but i wish that for every dance (now i have no idea how plausible this is with the amount of cameras they have) that they had one single stationary camera that films the whole stage because sometimes i want to be able to see the full dance without cutaways to the audience or zoom ins on specific girls. they could have put them on youtube as like an extra or something

Springtime vibes

Let’s let the lip licking go..it was funny a few times but it’s time to ignore it

knee deep in that pothole

if you guys had been there when abby just disappeared what do you think you would’ve done? i know you would’ve jumped for joy as everything’s better with no abby, but she had a job to do, what do you think you would’ve done differently?

Nathan Soverinsky

Brynn had so many tricks in hers compared to Maddie’s hard hitting turns completely different dances and difficulties

Jenny Joy

It’s like they all forgot how Jess talked about their girls and how Kenzie needed to learn to do more than tricks when she first came. I remember thinking it was crazy how Jess was criticizing Brynn when JoJo was the weakest dancer on the team the first time I saw this episode—I couldn’t believe Ashlee actually said it! How could she not in that situation though?

Julianna N

Question for Christi specifically. You mentioned as far back as the first ever episode that you and Melissa had tension because your daughters were constantly placed against each other. you also have talked about how melissa has lied to you and stabbed you in the back multiple times since even before the show. Can you recall the first time you realized melissa wasn’t exactly the person that you thought? Is there something specifically that she did to you or Chloe that made you second-guess everything that you knew about her as far as your friendship went? She very clearly did some pretty terrible things to both of you to get her daughters ahead on the show but I wanted to know what happened before the show. Sorry if this question is invasive or awkward, I know you guys are starting to rebuild your relationship but just curious. Love you both!!

Nicola Church

Agree look at how Jill was when she first arrived on the show . She was always saying how great her child was and that she was better than Nia . I also recall her saying she was the new number 2 or the girl Abby went to when Maddy wasn’t there . Jill also makes Brynn cry after she calls her stupid . I really disliked Jess too I really can’t understand how anyone can stick up for her when there are podcasts of that woman admitting how she treated Brynn and laughed about it !

Abby’s Yuge Prada

Honestly I love how it took 16 episodes in S4 for the select ensemble to finally arrive and now for the minis in S6, they’re introduced just like that in one episode lmfao

The Afro in Holly’s Purse

This is not an episode related question, but where is Kelly staying in Pittsburgh? Is she still at her sisters or did she end up getting a place?

I’ll slam whatever I want

Christi & Kelly — it warms my heart and is a true testament to both of you that you have raised such poised, humble, and kind daughters. I never sensed an ounce of ego or meanness from your girls. And you both still try to be unbiased about the other moms despite all the BS. Please don’t beat yourselves up, you did the best you could on the show… even with the odds being against you. #kellyisanicon #illslamwhateveriwant

Makenzi

Hot take : Ashley is not a very interesting person nor much of an intellectual so I don’t think she had much to say that wasn’t shady or that happened to be actually interesting. so all of that + she was a total producer plant = her storyline was manufactured and the point/her storyline became moot quickly because what else does she have to offer and/or say ? …. nothin

KENDALLYOURECHASINGHER

Okay my theory that Abby actually did get 10% of the jojo bow-bow empire - Jess and jojo came in with a plan- to know it’s a show and Abby was crazy, so they were gonna play the drama and not let it hurt their feelings so jojo could be famous. I think they offered Abby 10% and Abby was just playing along picking on jojo to get her more screen time and continue the narrative that they don’t care what Abby thinks. Even why Abby didn’t put her on the team at first or invite her to meet and greets - she was okay with Jess doing her own events bc she WAS getting 10%. And this is why they’re still close to this day despite all the insane shit abby said and did to them on television. Do I sound crazy ?!