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S6, E7 - Debbie Allen to the Rescue | Barre Tab (Patreon)

Published:
2026-10-26 16:00:00
Edited:
2026-10-26 17:46:24
Imported:
2026-11

Poll

S6, E7 - Debbie Allen to the Rescue | Barre Tab

  • Kira's 70
  • Ashlee's 245
  • 2026-10-26
  • 315 votes
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Content

Whose side are you on in the infamous 'Pathetical' and ‘Three Baby Daddies & A Criminal Record’ fight?💭

Comments

Jenny Joy

It is a real word, and I think Kira even used it correctly, BUT I think that was just luck based on her frequent mispronunciations and incorrect use of other words.

Alexander Graham

I'm gonna say neither since this fight was dumb and stupid, with things being brought up that was already common knowledge. At this point in time you can tell that the show was on a true downhill spiral and there is no true way of saving this train wreck doom and despair.

Blue Jai

I feel like I’m on Ashlee’s side. She can be annoying, but this is what she was brought on for. If Kira doesn’t wanna react, bring the person who can spill her tea. It’s the kind of thing that caused the producers and talent agents to be interested in the ALDC in the first place.

Courtney Brewer

I felt sorry for Kira because she just had a baby. As a viewer you could tell they just wanted to pick a fight with her for TV. Ashlee just sounded mean in the fight. I think Kira was just frazzled when she said Pathetical.

Waffle Bubbles

I used to correct people a lot when I was younger about vocab and then I learned that education does not equal intelligence and now I don't correct anyone unless asked. If you know the point that the other person is trying to make then it's a dumb thing to make fun of. Plus there's so many other things to make fun of Kira for...like c'mon.

Eliza Proctor

I voted Ashlee simply because her saying "someone with 3 baby daddies and a criminal record" caught me off guard and made me laugh simply because I didn't expect it

Rachel Goonan

Honestly neither. Ashlee is plain annoying, Kira is shady. They both suck

Abby’s car burger

I voted Kira only bc I watched my own mom be made fun of all because she would forget or show up late. SHE HAS A NEW BORN. And newborns can be unpredictable sometimes. I think Kira could’ve tried to get Kalani there by calling Melissa. However Ashlee just likes to make people mad and then cry when they retaliate. I know it was probably producer led/pushed but she could’ve just picked a fight about ANYTHING ELSE.

April Bailey

I believe Ashley wanted to make herself look better than Kira. I just felt for Kira because she was postpartum and who knows what she was feeling.

AJ Joseph

Ashlee has explained that this fight was mostly pushed by producers who wanted her to have an interesting narrative with Kira, and get her back in the fold. She said the issue was that Kira wouldn’t play along with all the stupid stuff, so she felt like she had to go for the jugular just to get a reaction out of her to keep the storyline going. It was pretty savage on Ashlee’s end, but Kira refuses to do her job and actually commit to the role she was assigned. If you aren’t willing to facilitate plot lines for the show, then you have no place in the cast. I generally prefer Moms who will play ball, over Moms who get to sit back, contribute nothing, yet have their children reap all the benefits of the shows opportunities and Abby’s favour (cough cough Melissa). I slightly lean towards Ashlee in this instance, even though she was harsh. It was great TV.

Kelly Preston

3 baby daddy and a criminal record……drop the mic

Rayleigh Voge

Kira constantly said “I’m not playing the game.” No, you’re not doing your job. Ashlee isn’t being mean just to be mean, she’s doing her job but Kira always wants her cake and to eat it too. If I were Ashlee I would also be pissed that Kira got to stay home. Also, I don’t think Ashlee should have said Kalani isn’t as good as she used to be, however I think she just hasn’t learned yet the way the moms don’t talk about the girls, and she didn’t mean it in a hateful way. She was pointing out that Kalani hasn’t received as good of training as she used to.

Dylan Hallowell

I gotta go with Ashlee only because her delivery sends me over the edge every time

jadeteass

Pathetical is a word she just used it wrong, but obviously on Ashlee’s side

curdled_ranch

I feel like there’s a huge difference between calling someone a name and bringing up someone’s past. One is a general insult, while the other is more personal. To me, calling out someone’s criminal record or family status is hitting below the belt. Especially when it’s on national television. To me, that’s a line you don’t cross. It feels similar to Abby accusing Kelly of being an “alcoholic” or “drunk” on national television. That type of thing is damaging to a persons reputation and sense of self worth.

Myesha Gooden

Pathetical is a word. And Kira used it in the right context. I just feel for Kira here because that woman literally had just had a baby, her pregnancy was tough and postpartum is always tough. And these women treated her like pure shit. It was hard to watch.

gg

“pathetical. isn’t. a word…don’t you have a masters degree?” lives rent free in my mind. certainly not as good as any of the seasons 1-4 one liners. BUT for post christi and kelly dance moms, it’s a good one to me

gg

it’s clear kira couldn’t handle the heat of being on the show. that’s why she walks out when anyone starts making too much sense 😂

Jill’s extensions

I’m 100% on ashlees side on this, if kira doesn’t want to pick up fights why take up a space on the show. She should’ve just stayed in club dance it would’ve been better for her. Obviously what Ashlee said was wrong but given the situation she was in she had no other choice because kira won’t give anything. Love you guys