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Robotech 1x36 'To the Stars' FULL LENGTH Reaction & Review (Patreon)

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2024-08-24 13:00:03
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This is it, friends! Lets send our Macross heroes out in style!

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Chris Huston

In the novelizations and comics the SDF-2 was being constructed next to the SDF-1 but unfortunately the cartoon couldn’t show that and it was “tell, not show.” LOL I’m looking forward now to The Masters/The Southern Cross as it’s my favourite of the 3. Yes, there are dozens of us! 😆

Justin Samlal

The SDF-2 is what I was referencing last week when I mentioned that there was something you'd find confusing because the dialogue doesn't match the visuals. They needed there to be two ships in the lake so that Khyron's ship would make three, for reasons you will see soon. In the comics and novels, the SDF-2 was in the lake back to back with the SDF-1 . A fan created "To the Stars - Special Edition" and put it on YouTube with footage edited to show both ships being present. Can be seen here: Part1: https://youtu.be/C6SmSAcgfjg?si=gVyEZJ0xhTBpVb0G Part2: https://youtu.be/0419cm841gM?si=CXa5ISUyzzaTX-wj

Griffen

To be fair, the "Final Episode" of the Macross saga in Robotech is actually the film Robotech II The Sentinels. It Explains the SDF-3. The surviving cast here, the cast of the Next War together, the new Veritech's used in the coming wars (Veritechs standing for Variable Technology stay around. The first war Valkyries like Roy's and Max's are retired. If it transforms basically it's a Veritech) and everything over the 20 years in between. The entire bridge crew didn't survive. There is a memorial for them in the next episode. Unfortunately the SDF-2 was written in to explain the three mounds in the next series (You'll understand later) I read they had planned to edit a film cell to show it but ran out of time. It has been explained afterwards to have been under water in the lake. With each War in Robotech being sourced from a different series you're going to see setting change. With the First War we have a lot of space combat and dogfights, advanced technologies, and GRAND BATTLES of millions of ships. In the Next War (it's a lot slower) but it's going to be more of a Cold War/Korean War scenario. Infantry combat, short intense skirmishes and pull back. (none of this is spoilers, it'll be mentioned immediately) The Robotech Masters has the Ability to wipe out the Army of the Southern Cross but not the Protoculture to see it through. The Army of the Southern Cross has the Protoculture but neither the equipment nor man power to wipe out the Masters. In Southern Cross you'll see they mass produced "crap" to attempt to build their numbers up but most is inferior to what Rick's RDF era had. In the third War you'll see they swing the other way, better equipment but less of it. It'll be a stalemate and more focus on lore. History of all races, supply lines, protoculture, where the REF and SDF-3 with Rick and Lisa is etc. There is still lots of combat but more or less if Macross was 50/50 on Combat and Drama/exposition. Then The Masters is 25% Combat and 75% Drama/exposition. The last war is 75% Combat in an all out finale in stakes higher then ever in either previous Wars.

The BRM

So bad news and good news. In Robotech Canon Lisa was the only survivor of the SDF1. In Macross however they all live. So that's the good news. In canon the SDF 1 and 2 were back to back. I never really thought itbwas necessary to create a nonexistent ship to tie in with Southern Cross. As for the relationship Ill say this. It is kinda interesting that basically Rick had to bang Mimei to get her out of his system. Not wholly unrealistic.

Griffen

Macross vs Robotech debate. Purist bitch but honestly Robotech is a 95% direct dub of Macross. Almost nothing is changed but names and half of them aren't even changed. It's Southern Cross and Genesis Climber that were completely re-worked to fit Macross. Also, Southern Cross was a complete Flop in Japan, it was even canceled mid production! The Robotech Masters saga really salvaged that show. Genesis Climber did alright upon release but never really became legendary in Japan like Macross did. Genesis Climber has had a more lasting impact as the third war of Robotech then it did as a standalone series. The Robotech hate isn't really because of the series. The hate is over Harmony Gold the owner of Robotech and blocking of anything Macross from releasing in the US since 1984. That has also been worked out in court recently and now Big West (the original creator of Macross) can now release in the US. Really issue stems from the original deal between the Macross creators and Harmony Gold which the original deal was written on a napkin! The Japanese creators couldn't believe anything Anime would even be aired in the US or anyone outside Japan would ever care about Macross and Harmony Gold was paying for ownership for a property they technically had no way to release. You needed 65 Episodes to air on TV and Macross alone is 36 and there is no home VHS market yet. (So Robotech was made into 85 episodes using three series all made by the same studio) Harmony Gold assumed the Risk and Big West signed a bad deal.

aspectsAK

The biggest difference in the final episode is, in the Macross series, Admiral Gloval had assigned Lisa to command a colonization ship and charged her to locate and colonize as many planets as possible to prevent a hostile race from eradicating humans who is currently on only one planet. Gloval told Lisa that the first colony ship was nearly completed. In the series Macross, after Kyron had begun his attack on Macross city, before leaving their command stations, Lisa commanded everyone to head to the bridge, which is when you see them running down the hallway to the main bridge of the ship and find Claudia and Gloval waiting for them there. Its a little messy, but Carl Macek was juggling what he could use to make changes in the story to wrap up the first chapter of Robotech and setup future storylines for a Lisa/Rick Robotech Expeditionary Force. Its too bad that never got beyond a pilot episode. But maybe one day.

aspectsAK

Just a heads-up Greg. The opening changes for Southern Cross. Will miss the hair flip, but we'll still have 'FANFARE'!!!!

Shepard Williams
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That's like saying Encounter at Farpoint (or the unproduced pilot episode of ST: Phase II?) is the final episode of ST:TOS. The Sentinels movie is not the last episode of Roboetch Macross Saga. It's a failed pilot for an entirely different television series.