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UNCUT REACTION - Star Trek The Original Series - The Enterprise Incident S3E2 (Patreon)

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Kirk as a Romulan!?

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Mark Chrisco

D.C. (Dorothy) Fontana was outraged that Fred Frieiberger rewrote the scenes between Spock and the Commander. Their courtship was written to be more alien. She said she was so embarrassed she personally apologized to Nimoy.

David Felgate

Kirk and Spock were operating under top secret orders and the rest of the crew were in the dark. If the Enterprise were captured and the crew interrogated by the Romulans, they could truthfully state that to their knowledge the Enterprise had received no direct orders to enter Romulan space and that this violation was solely due to Kirk's irrational state of mind. This would absolve the Federation of responsibility for the incident.

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>>101009349

That makes sense! I know Kirk explained he would solely be at fault but didn’t relate that to him acting irrational at the beginning. Thanks!

Jonathan

This is one of my top 5 episodes of the series. D.C. Fontana wrote most of the top episodes. The blue Romulan Ale they were drinking is a recurring item throughout the franchise. If you ever watch more Babylon 5 way down the road you will get some more D.C. Fontana scripts since she contributed multiple early episodes to that series as well.

Prof Moff

I liked this one overall. It is in my top group. It is nice to know that in the future a major engineering device that can completely change the physics of a whole ship, looks like a vacuum machine and basically just sits in a hole lol.

deconstructionist66

A couple strong episodes to start season 3, but rest assured we will be leaving the rails shortly. I always found the season to be overly reviled by the fandom, as is the first film, but they certainly are more flawed than the best stuff in the franchise. Dorothy went on writing great episodes for scifi shows for decades after this, and she was a producer and the story editor for the animated Trek series.

Edweirdo

The story goes that the reason they used Klingon ships is because one of the prop people stepped on the model of the Romulan ship, destroying it. They didn't have the budget to make a new one, so they just used the Klingon model.

Ricky Johnson
>>101013940

I always equate Romulan ale to cold-war Cuban cigars. D.C always wrote stuff that would end up being Star Trek lore down the road.

tyranusfan
>>101028164

Really? I'd heard that the Romulan Bird of Prey had been lost or disappeared. I hadn't heard this!

Steven Johnson

Definitely one of the high watermarks of the season, in my view. Feels like a good Season 2 episode. Well paced, written, great overall plot with some nice turns. Lots of great scenes. Spock gets some good stuff. When Season 3 does well, it does pretty damn good. Also the introduction to the Klingon battlecruiser. You guys won't know this because you watched season 1 and 2 with remastered effects.. They didn't have a Klingon model built in season 1. So when they get attacked in episodes like "Errand of Mercy" there are no Klingon ships. Trouble With Tribbles? All that talk about a Klingon battle cruiser near the station? No ship. So it was a big thing when they built that model. Also designed by Matt Jefferies who gave us the big E. Part of the reason for the Romulan's using "Klingon designs" was an invention of nessacity. The Romulan filming miniature was dropped and destroyed, so no new footage could be filmed. Now it doesn't seem like a big deal, but I want you to imagine a huge socio-political choice being made in-universe of a modern show because of budget. The "Klingon-Romulan alliance" is the result of the writers and producers having to think on their feet. Not to keep talking about it, but that iconic shot of the E flanked by the ships was actually made into a special model kit by AMT called "The Enterprise Incident." There was also one for Space Seed, which featured a to scale Botany Bay model. AMT actually built models like the shuttlecraft for the show in exchange for the rights to sell them.

Steven Johnson
>>101041762

Also, and I don't consider this a spoiler because its a fan series, but Star Trek Continues has the Romulan Commander return... and the actress playing the Commander is the daughter of the woman who played her in this episode, and, she is the spitting image of her mother. Practically her twin in every way. It's uncanny. STC also has James Doohan's son as Scotty.

Firekrys FWO

Definitely one of my favorites of the season, and part of my favorites overall.

Lin Phillips

When I was a kid, I taught myself to raise one eyebrow because of Mr. Spock. 🖖

Steven Johnson
>>101041762

Also, the reason for Kirk acting like a weirdo for so long was specifically to have it in the medical logs for an extended period of time as proof to the Romulans to make the ruse work. It's Espionage. Not to drag it into a political realm, but the 9/11 hijackers, some of them lived in the US, had jobs, probably had friends. They were here on a mission, but it took them time to infiltrate. That's the name of the game.

James H

The cloaking device is basically made out of Nomad's head from "The Changeling" and Sargon's receptacle from "Return to Tomorrow." And I can see you're a couple episodes ahead of us on BSG. ;)

Mark Chrisco
>>101041762

I seem to have a vague memory of that model kit. May have had it but was just too young to give it justice.

Tom Occhipinti

I just came across this fan-made sequel to this.... This is just some clips.... But the BEST part about it is that the role of the Romulan commander was played by the granddaughter of the original actress.... and they look so much alike! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNLFThIsEXM

Shane Davis

The reason the Enterprise crew didn't know what was going on while Kirk was acting the jerk was given later on in Sickbay when Kirk tells McCoy the plan, he says that by keeping everyone in the dark, if it failed, it would fall upon Kirk's shoulders alone. He would be the fall guy. By acting the ass for three weeks, every crew member even under interrogation can say they didn't know what was going on, that was Kirk alone. By setting up & fooling his own crew to believe his jerkish acting out, he actually let them off the hook. Besides that, it's operational security; the more people that know the truth of any covert operation, the bigger chance it has of being blown.

Jeff Cornell

Always great to see Scotty being a badass in the big chair. The Enterprise didn't just have a Romulan uniform for Kirk available in storage somewhere. They took it off one of the officers in the brig that had been exchanged for Kirk and Spock.

Ken R

Joanne L sadly died fairly recently, but it was nice when she did die every outlet remembered her for this show. It was just one of those roles people always remember. Unfortunately, the next few are so so at best, with one being considered one of the worst. Then the quality picks up again.

Chuck Rice

Such a great episode. DC Fontana is truly one of the best writers in the entire original series. She does such great work fleshing out the character of Spock especially. Great reaction as always!

Carl Peterson

If they would have only made Spock not a part of the plan at first then the beginning would have made sense. then Spock would not have to lie to the Romulan commander at first. Then Kirk could have told Spock while they were in a cell together. Then everything else could have been pretty much the same and all would make sense.

Carl Peterson

I really like this episode. Full of intrigue although you know Spock was not going to betray Kirk and the federation. not a fan of Spock's Brain even though parts of it are very funny.

Joe Concepts

Here's question about the channel and not just this video. I have noticed some Patreon creators will put out TV show reactions but actually show the episode in their video, like it's shown on Youtube. For movies everyone seems to do it so you have to watch along with your own version. Is the "use your own copy" thing really necessary, or is it just a "just in case" precaution?

Collin Freeman

Definitely 1 of my favorite episodes from season 3. The Mission: Impossible episode. In fact, it's probably in my top 10 and definitely in my top 15 episodes overall. Johanna Linville was awesome. She was Mark (Hulk) Ruffalo's acting teacher. Oh, and Kirk did not just grab that Romulan uniform off the rack: he says to Scotty he needs a uniform from 1 of the Romulan exchange prisoners they had in the brig. Kirk had to maintain the subterfuge of being insane because if he had just ordered the whole crew to cross the Neutral Zone, it would have put them and the Federation in major brink-of-war trouble. If he could reasonably cop an insanity plea, and the crew would honestly be able to serve as witnesses to that fact, the Federation could deny all culpability.

Stardate 1312.4
>>101045004

I can relate to that. I was in 2nd grade during TOS' first season. I took my father's razor and tried to make Spock eyebrows. I somehow must have known what I was doing because I cut off the outer sides just as they did for Nimoy, but I was clueless as to what to do next. I remember my father going to my school to explain I did that to myself - that it wasn't some kind of abuse thing. Its funny now that in my old age the parts I cut off are thinner than the rest of my eyebrows, so I look like Spock anyway.

Andreas Schmitt

The name "Terran" is pretty common yes, since "Terra" is Earth's name. It's simply latin for Earth. So Terran basically means Earthling. Terra is as much Earth's scienific name as Sol is the name for the sun and Sol System the same for our solar system

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>>101081450

I won't speak to any other channels or their reasonings but for us, I think it is pretty undeniable that what we are doing is fair use and that we are selling our own content that we are creating. There could still be an argument for fair use while including the entire episode/movie, since the commentary/reaction is transformative, but there is also an argument that it isn't transformative enough since you would be using the entire work. Rather than get into that gray area, we would much rather be 110% confident that what we are selling is our own property and the little copyrighted content we do show is fair use.

Andreas Schmitt

Him acting like a dick wasn't just for the audience. It was also done so if questioned, the entire crew would willingly and truthfully report that Captain Kirk was acting irrational prior to this incident. The entire point was that Kirk was ordered to do this and take the blame if something went wrong, so the Federation could claim that it had nothing to do with it. For that to work, they had to make the crew believe Kirk had lost his mind. You cannot tell 400 people aboard the enterprise to take part in a lie without someone finding out about it. So everybody besides Spock needed to get fooled so the Federation had plausible deniability. If this plan didn't work, Kirk was supposed to take the fall for it, and keep his crew and the federation out of it. And that plan needed to work, even if the Romulans decide to interrogate members of the crew to confirm that it was Kirk acting alone.

Brad Barter

I see you guys were again watching the original version of the episode. In the updated version her ship wasn't the same as the 2 they said matched the Klingon ship but was the same small ship with the bird painted on its belly from the episode Balance of Terror. Will you be continuing 3rd season with the older or newer space effects?

Firekrys FWO
>>101045004

Gah I tried soooo hard to that, all I ended up doing is half closing my eye, and sadly I still do that due to muscle memory and it looks weird... Sigh

Gary Leyh

This is one of my favorite episodes and I'm so glad you enjoyed it. The only thing that has always bothered me is why the Romulans didn't search Spock or detect his communicator. Otherwise, a great episode. Thanks for your reaction.

TeenyStudio Flicks

If you are interested in back stories and how things got started the underrated series ' Star Trek: Enterprise (TV Series 2001–2005)' is the series to do next. It was released as a prequel about the first ship to leave earth with warp 5 drive. It was rejected by many hard core fans because it was made more realistically and lacked many things that were in STOS. Some also did not see Scott Bakula (of Quantum Leap) as a traditional Trek captain so it struggled with ratings. It is set approximately 100 years before the original Kirk series. There wasn't many aliens well known then since Vulcans made first contact. Most aliens seen on Earth came for research or as tourists. The Enterprise interior resembled a submarine more since they had not reached the comfort stage of ship development, however they do have better looking technology? The series did not last much longer than the original series struggling with the same restructuring as STOS did trying to keep from being canceled. However they introduce many first contacts and back stories* for many aliens and incidences in future series. They also cover how the ship transitioned from a peaceful research ship to a war ship. * It really is worth watching it just to get the back stories (like why Klingons lost the forhead bump in STOS).

Scarpad’s Domain

the third season gets a bad rap, there are some major dogs in this season like 3-4 bad eps and one that's immensely terrible, but there are some very good episodes

Scarpad’s Domain

if you watch closely the scene where Kirk opens his eyes is from the 1st season episode the enemy within, the show used stock footage like this often

MertzRocks

Sometimes when I watch this ep... When the Romulan Commander smacks Spock, I say. "Bitch, my MOM hits harder than THAT!" lol

MertzRocks
>>101022465

Part of the Cloaking Device prop was very obviously the "head" of Nomad from season 2. We will see this bit again down the road.

MertzRocks
>>101027835

"Off the rails"! A few eps leave those rails twisted in the train's wake... lol

MertzRocks
>>101041762

Star Trek Continues is worth a watch, Alex and Josh. They only did 11 eps but they are all pretty damn good. I mentioned one in a comment for a S2 ep. and I mentioned Chris Doohan there as well. Of course I'm a few months late and a few Quatloos short... lol

Timothy Nikiforovs

While I think this is a great episode, I think I'm somewhat less taken with it than most, and I think that's largely down to being less taken with the romulan commander than most. I think her performance was fine, but I always thought it was odd that she was so taken with Spock to the seeming exclusion of her duties. To be fair however, arguably she was just pulling a Kirk, trying to seduce the enemy and all, and getting Spock on side because he would make the Enterprise's capture easier, but ended up being seduced herself instead. Were this a later Trek series, Kirk would probably have shoved the romulans in a couple escape pods and jettisoned them on romulan side of the neutral zone. As some have said, this is almost like a Mission: Impossible episode of trek, and I do love that about this episode. You spend so much time wondering how Kirk has become so unhinged, ordering the Enterprise across the border and risking a war and the loss of his ship, and his whole crew clearly none the wiser. Then this "vulcan death grip" comes out of nowhere, and finally the reveal that Kirk is alive and Scotty seeing the "romulanized" Kirk for the first time, it all clicks into place. The only issue I have with the main plot is the dialogue saying "the romulans have developed a cloaking device". You mean like the one we clearly established they had 2 years ago? Very captivating episode.

Prof Moff

TOS Sex Scoreboard Spock shows game-he-got. Kirk 8 Spock 2 new +1 Chekov 2 Bones 1 Extra: Now, we know they did not have a chance on the Romulan ship but we think on the trip to the star base Spock and Commander de-cloaked themselves. I mean the Commander was really ready. Trying to get Spock drunk with Romulan ale AND then Trianna (you know the orange stuff). We are sure that on the Enterprise, Spock would not have needed “it’s Green” stuff to have a mind melting moment.