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UNCUT REACTION - Star Trek TOS - The Lights of Zetar S3E18 (Patreon)

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Scotty gets a love interest in one of the weirdest episodes of this show!

Here is our full uncut reaction to The Lights of Zetar 

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Rich Cirivilleri

Well it was written by a sock puppet, you know. Shari Lewis who was famous at the time for being the creator of lamb chop, the indeterminate animal creature sock puppet that so amused so many soft headed Americans back in the 60s and 70s.

Rich Cirivilleri

Mira Romain was such a bitter little pill. I’m surprised those aliens didn’t cough her out.

Andreas Schmitt

Not sure if you ever looked it up, but the biggest Star Trek wiki is names after Memory Alpha :) Since the planet was supposed to be kind of the galactic library of information ;)

MntrTodd

Last time in the series we see the Engineering set.

Mark Chrisco

This is around the time long term contracts exopired allowing most of the production staff, weary of dealing with Fred Frieberger in an effort to maintain some quality on the show, walked away before NBC asked for several more episodes. So, what remains is pure Frieberger.

Steven Johnson

The weakness of this episode is that it was made in the 1960s. If this was woven into a show with a story arc where Mira was a recurring minor character, and Scott's relationship with her evolved over a half dozen episodes as a background element. It's just... Eh. It's fine. The actress did a great job. So, since that's all I have to say on this one, how about some trivia? The transporter "beam" is Alka-Seltzer in a glass. Spun with a spoon, photographed, and then colorized gold. In an upcoming episode, if you pay close attention to the set design, you will see painted take-out lids as wall techno-design. They were called "Greeblies" back in the day. Lots of the stuff hanging on the walls of the Enterprise that look like equipment are also called greeblies. The engineering pipes on the Enterprise are called "GNDN" With a number. GNDN is "Goes Nowhere, Does Nothing." On the subject of the repeating tropes. There were actually a lot of episodes that never made the cut. William Shatner actually had an episode he pitched featuring a giant spider attacking the Enterprise... Probably about 50 episode ideas that never got the greenlight. Popular writers of the time were submitting story ideas to the show, and then they were reworked to fit the show properly. I think that's why you see a lot of ideas being repeated is the producers making the calls were probably seeing the same ideas, not realizing it but feeling "familiar" with it and liking it, so it got repeatedly picked up as a story element. Incidentally the main chamber of Memory Alpha is the same as the set in Whom God's Destroy. This is a sign of the lower budget, they just changed the lighting.

Steven Johnson
>>105733948

Also, on the subject of the tactical display we get in this episode, which is actually a neat little effect, we have seen some tactical displays before, like in Balance of Terror they show us the display of the Neutral Zone. Going into the films and later TV shows we will get to see more displays like that. TNG has its own operating system of sorts for all Federation Starships called LCARS, which stands for "Library Computer Access Retrieval System." Designed with the latest Apple computers of the era, which in and of itself is a little ironic because Apple basically aped TNG's guis for a all of its i-products,

Collin Freeman

Another meh episode. I think you guys accurately summed it up.

Brad Barter

My favourite effects from this episode is the multi-coloured shots of the faces of the 2 women as well as the sounds they made but having both actresses (actors) do the exact same facial expressions was impressive. I liked how when the first woman died her face became frozen with eyes wide and mouth contorted. This freaked me out as a kid in the 70s as it was more Exorcist/horror which great sci-fi TV and movies should embrace especially dealing with unknown alien factors and encounters. You may have noticed that Kirk when using the intercom has been using his title when doing so, "Captain Kirk to Dr. McCoy" etc where previously he would've only said, "Kirk to McCoy." I believe this was intentional to get the audience used to him saying it for the final episode. Once we get to it, you will better understand and I don't want to give much information away about it. But watch for it there because it is pertinent to that episode specifically.

Brad Barter

As we close out on TOS and soon classic BSG I hope eventually we'll get to Farscape but as that is late 90s to mid 2000s there is one of the greatest 80s sci-fi TV shows called V - The mini-series and V - The Final Battle, it is like a five part series of episodes when combined and still stands as one of the best alien horror type series not only of its time but for all time. The subsequent V - The series just like Galactica 1980 had serious budget cuts, bad CGI, bad acting and bad storylines so avoiding that entirely would cut down on watch time. Just a suggestion incase you guys put up another pole as for Patreon viewers to vote on watching.

Andreas Schmitt

I recently started re-watching some TNG and DS9 which I do whenever I have nothing else to do (saving the movies for now until you guys watch them :) ). And I actually found season 1 and 2 of TNG not as bad as I remembered. there is some really fun stuff in there. I think you'll actually enjoy it. And I found an episode in Season 2 I think that couldn't be more obviously an old TOS script that was never used :D As much as you guys are looking foward to TNG, I think you'll enjoy DS9 even more actually. Not only because you know nothing about it so it will completely surprise you, but also because it had the biggest cast and really focussed on the characters, their dynamics, the alien cultures and all those typical character moments like no show had done before, not even TNG. I think you'll like it a lot for that reason once you get to it. Until then I think you'll enjoy the TOS movies. They go a lot deeper into the characters and combine that with nice action and the right amount of humor. Can't wait. You getting to all that stuff is the one thing I look forward to this year the most :)

Brad Barter
>>105742489

Yes the TOS movies are great and show the progression of time not only in their universe but matching visual effects of the time as well. Just remember before we get to the movies they'll be reacting to the 70s Star Trek Animated series first.

deconstructionist66
>>105741208

I loved both V miniseries and thought the subsequent series started well, at least. It would be interesting to see those again.

Brad Barter
>>105741208

Once you get passed them not using the reverb voice sounds the first few episodes were okay but it goes wild with the 80s hair, makeup silver V pointed crotch outfits for the women, killing off most cast members of the initial series and then goes more & more off the rails, campy and just plain dumb as it went on. No wonder it was cancelled with an open ended storyline.

James H
>>105740636

I dunno, you may be giving them credit for more advance planning than was really there.

James H

Even the computer repeats its dialogue in that briefing room scene: IDENTICAL. IDENTICAL.

Brad Barter

Today is the Birthday of late actor Frank Gorshin who played half black Sherron Commisioner Bele from "Let that be your Last Battlefield" as well as The Riddler in the 1960s Batman series. RIP 🙏

Shane Davis

Alex, maybe the word you were struggling to find in terms of the quality of this episode is 'serviceable'..... that's about it. It ain't terrible, it ain't grand, it's just normal, run of the mill serviceable Star Trek. Oh and as far as 'bad' goes? Yeah, I'm old and things are very different these days, the roles of men and women are NOT the same as 1969, so please don't fall into the trap of judging the past by modern political standards...having said that? I'll be waiting for your reaction to the last episode 'Turnabout Intruder'. And as Forrest Gump said, that's all I'm gonna say about that....

Gary Leyh

Thank you so much, that was such a funny reaction. You were in rare form. Alex's impersonation of Scotty's seduction scenario and Josh's hot pockets and his Lt.'s "I can't wait to tell my husband" comment. I was laughing so hard, such a fun watch of a mediocre episode.

Ken R

This is okay, but Mira was a bit of a grouch to Bones. I'm always happy for Scotty attention but I prefer the Jack TheRipper one. Thinking about the remaining, only the final one I love and that's one of the most hated.

Firekrys FWO

Yeah it's a lot of hits and misses for the rest of the season. There are moments that are well done, but the average theme of Season 3 is good idea with moderate to poor execution. There are still episodes in this season that are in my top 10, but a lot of these that you are getting to are episodes that I haven't seen in years for a reason. But 'tis okay, still with ya

Ron

When I first saw Star Trek, all of the shows were edited in some way to add more commercials. (This was in the mid '70s.) The odd part? Each channel edited each episode *differently*. It wasn't until the various home video releases that I finally got to see every minute of every episode. To your point about repeating information, I never got that feeling because I often times never got all of the scenes! To me, watching these episodes in modern day (and with you guys), feels almost new to me in some ways because some scenes are not a familiar to me as others.

Scarpad’s Domain

Spock over compensates when he’s in command probably feeling not worth to be in the position

Scarpad’s Domain

The third season gets a bad rap, while there’s a few lesser quality eps, they still are very entertaining and fun. Something lacking IMHO in the nu stuff

Scarpad’s Domain

The word your looking for is technobabble and wait till you watch Star Trek voyager

MertzRocks
>>105733948

Today the term has morphed to "greebling" and often refers to the same type of thing: extra material added to something to create greater detail. It is an especially common term among LEGO builders. Just look at any of the really big and expensive 'realistic' Star Wars models; you'll see lots of greebling.

MertzRocks
>>105742489

Wow, I can almost never say I have "nothing else to do", even though I don't work anymore. I always have something to watch, listen to, play, or participate in online. Lately most of what I'm doing is this: watching, reacting to and commenting on reaction vids and the comments along with them. Josh & Alex: Sorry to say guys, but I will probably skip most of the ST:TAS reactions and come back for the movies, but I certainly will watch some of them, and maybe your original BSG reactions too (been a LONG time since I've seen that!). I do hope eventually you will react to the 21st century Moore/Eick BSG series. Moore is Star Trek alum (TNG & DS9), so I think you will.

MertzRocks
>>108210862

Yeah... Well, all ST series after this are inundated with that. What was it Kirk said in "Miri" to that little brat with the club? NO BLAH-BLAH-BLAH!! (sorry, we get MORE blah-blah-blah...!)

MertzRocks

This episode totally lost my interest the moment I heard 'that noise'. I watched anyway, the first time... ugh. I wont rant further; just this remains, along with Empath and Gideon, in my bottom 3 episodes of all time.

Timothy Nikiforovs

Nice to see Scotty get some more screen time before the end, and getting the love interest for a change. Still, I always found this one of the most dull episodes of the show. It's just really boring. I was more entertained by the jokes. "Pizza pocket in the microwave" really got me😂. One thing I'll note is the last few episodes they've really gone back to the S1 soundtracks. Music from Where No Man Has Gone Before and The Cage, among others. Really calling back to the beginning. Definitely though, the later shows benefit from 5-7 minutes shorter run time. Especially at this point in the show, there's nowhere near enough to fill the whole 50/51 minute run time. Lastly, Lt. Kyle is back!! Been a while, buddy.

Prof Moff

TOS Sex Scoreboard Scottie took her from the Highlands to the Lowlands under his kilt. Kirk 11 Chekov 3 Spock 2 Bones 2 Scottie 1 new +1 Extras: There is plenty of a chance for Scottie to final not strike out. Scottie was able to stop tossing the caber pole and start squeezing the bagpipes. I am guessing Mira squeaked like the pipes too.