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Memory Transcription Subject: Tassi, Bissem Alien Liaison

Date [standardized human time]: September 26, 2160

Camera drones surveyed the system, admiring the devastation wrought across swaths of space. The FTL disruptors might’ve bought us precious months to prepare for a defense, but eventually, the enemy broke through—snuffing out enough FTL disruptors to make incremental progress, and slogging their way into the planetary sector. The Farsul homeworld, as projected on our prior intelligence briefings, had been the first to meet our unknown nemesis. The United Nations had locked the region by Talsk’s Kessler Cage down, standing against the would-be murderers with thousands of drones. The humans were crafty devils, and had laid down a multitude of traps to fend off the automatons…but machines saw through such schemes better than crewed vessels.

I hadn’t known what to think when the two sides traded blows. Sure enough, Kaisal had brought his forces gunning to the fray, finding a microscopic backdoor left for Sapient Coalition allies; the Terrans had balked when Arxur forces warped into Talsk’s vicinity, with two ceremonial ships at the front displaying the banner of the Collective. The icon being an Arxur skull, with a sword through its nearest eye socket, wasn’t reassuring anyone that the cannibals had changed that much. I supposed a kinder interpretation would be that it was symbolic of the rebellion, slaying Betterment officials, and that…at least it wasn’t showing dead prey animals? It certainly didn’t play well to the SC audience, who’d been in an uproar at their arrival.

And none of it was enough to stop bombs from peppering down on the Farsul. Granted, humanity took measures to evacuate a number of civilians to a different location—where they’re also imprisoned, but somewhere the enemy wouldn’t know to track them down. What if that makes the United Nations a target next?

“As you all know, the Sapient Coalition needs to hold a full review of what happened at Talsk.” Venlil Governor Laisa had taken command of the meeting; while the Venlil Republic were humanity’s closest allies, they had no love lost for the Farsul or the Arxur. That made them less of a public enemy, even if they were mere vessels to facilitate the UN’s message. “It wasn’t a surprise that the Arxur breached quarantine, might I remind you. Nor is this the first time the grays rode in to fight on humanity, or a prey world’s, behalf. We needed their aid once to fight the Kolshians, and after how our forces fared alone, I’m not sure we can afford to refuse their help.”

Mazic President Quipa seemed incensed by the Venlil’s suggestion. “That’s rich of you, coming from Tarva’s political party. We have respect for humans, don’t get me wrong, but you welcome them, bulldozing your own ways. Skalga doesn’t push back against any of their political plays. You eat every word and thought straight from their hands! There’s a difference between being their ally, and being their vassal.”

“You are out of line, insulting us and the United Nations. How dare you make insinuations about the special bond that our neighbor worlds share?”

“We strongly disagree with how you’ve turned a blind eye to the Arxur; you think we don’t remember how Tarva piped up in favor of that Isif character, at our founding Summit? That you changed the story right now, from how the grays only fought on our side for a small portion of the Battle of Aafa? This is all some ploy to get the Collective into the Sapient Coalition—and the Mazic Presidium will not work alongside monsters!”

“You’re not getting out of this, Quipa! What did you mean about us being the United Nations’ vassal?”

“You know, Laisa! Skalga has the highest human population of any Sapient Coalition world. You’re the only alien power that was given their own, secluded spot on Earth—”

“Really? This is about a tiny, gifted research island, which the United Nations gave us as a thank you for literally saving their species; for protecting them and giving them a chance when no others would?”

“Venlil Island is just one of many reasons you and the humans are much too intertwined to permit an independent decision. You’re not going to allow a voting bloc of nearly a hundred million Terrans to go to waste.”

Laisa pinned her ears back, a scowl creasing her face. “How dare you? You helped humanity build Libastion, their largest colony, and now, you’re acting like cohabitation outside of Earth is a bad thing? I thought in the Sapient Coalition, we agreed that humans are people—like any other aliens.”

“We do. That’s why they should have one vote, like every other species—not two. They aren’t our ‘predator masters.’ We don’t have to sit by and watch the Arxur disregard the authority of this institution; their debt to us isn’t something I’ll forget.”

“That’s enough!” Onso barked, storming up to the stage. “You want someone who will challenge humanity? The Technocracy is happy to take a critical approach to their present suggestions, and does not believe they’re above any of us. We have the military might to do better at the next contest, the one that actually matters: Nishtal.”

The Krakotl ambassador rose from her station, an irritated glint in her eyes. “Our home is on the line, and you’re bickering about islands and fucking Libastion. I say let the Yotul speak.”

The Venlil governor eyed the red-furred marsupial, as he sauntered onto the stage; Onso was wearing human-styled sunglasses on his forehead, like he never intended for them to cover his eyes. The two representatives studied each other, a staring contest that appeared to have some bubbling hostility. I wasn’t sure what the Technocracy was playing at, but they might have a shot to move the needle on the Arxur; their goal was simply to open the doors for trade purposes. Perhaps this was also a power grab, snatching a leadership role away from the Terrans. The Yotul had a formidable military to back any of their claims, and I still remember how Dustin suggested they had intelligence on SC members: rivaling Jones’ maneuvers.

Onso got the Bissems working for the Yotul a lot like Jones, come to think of it; both sides threatened us with revoking our SC membership. Of the two, I suspect the Yotul would be more likely to follow through on threats to bar us from the SC. For Hirs’ sake, I don’t want us to be beholden to anyone in that way! We need the Carnivore Alliance, whether I like it or not.

“The floor is all yours,” Laisa hissed at last, stepping away from the microphone.

Onso offered a sly ear flick, and strolled up to survey the crowd. “The Venlil think that we need the Arxur to win this war. If you want to have an educated discussion on that, we need a strategic review of exactly how it all played out. Our failings. Their capabilities. We must survey all of our options. Why don’t we save these discussions for after we review what happened at Talsk?”

“Very well. I’m listening,” Quipa sighed.

“As an engineer, we learn to look for structural weaknesses. Liquid armor, for instance, is single-use and unable to withstand applied amounts of direct, penetrative damage. Bullets can be deflected by the simple metal casing on a ship’s exterior, but we wanted their hull integrity obliterated. And that’s how the human-Yotul R&D teams came up with the idea of space harpoons. Let’s start from the top.”

Zalk and Naltor looked quite eager to take notes on SC weaponry, especially with the Sivkits and the Bissems now working together on Ivrana to engineer a new-fangled fleet. Ambassador Loxsel had talked about raising an army to retake Tinsas himself, if need be. With Bissems desperate for potent allies and the SC needing as many ships as possible, we’d managed to worm our way in on the action. I still wondered what the Grand Herd would think, had they been informed of our theory that the original Sivkits might be behind all of this. They were quite serious about reclaiming their homeworld, which meant they just might find out the hard way. The other Bissems didn’t seem worried about that, rather focusing on pitching the Technocracy on joint intelligence. I wasn’t particularly eager to listen to the specifics of battle plans and technobabble, so I found myself dwelling on what I’d learned about this Yotul—a Rinsian engineer.

We dug into Onso, and found out that his best friend, to this day, is a human: one that he met through the Yotul-Terran exchange program. He had once reflected quite fondly on Earth’s foreign policy and way of life, one of many marsupials that used to be happy to partner with them. His species was exuberant that someone finally treated them as equals. Yet now, the UN and the Technocracy are tugging the SC in two polar-opposite directions.

I could still hear the Yotul’s reply, when I asked him what changed from back when he believed that humanity had the optimal path forward for the galaxy—one that offered a vast improvement from the methods of the Federation.

“They lost their way. They stopped being better,” Onso had answered. “They place no boundaries on the reach of their ‘progress,’ and they repeat mistakes of the past. They see this golden era of peace as their crowning accomplishment, and won’t make any waves for fear of undoing it. Now, they’re dragging other parties into this stagnant retention pond, pretending they don’t smell shit.”

The Yotul wanted the Sapient Coalition fully cleansed of the Federation’s residue, whereas humanity was terrified of losing their friends. I disagreed that the Terrans had stopped being better than the old regime, by virtue of how completely fucking maniacal the Kolshian-Farsul conspiracy was, but I saw why both sides were jockeying for more power. I hated being used and caught in the middle, however; there was too much politicking and scheming involved to fit my fantasy of friendship with aliens. Maybe there was still part of the United Nations that wanted to make waves, if they’d pushed a little to bring Bissems into the Sapient Coalition. Of course humanity couldn’t abide their allies not fully accepting predators—that was a sticking point for them.

“—the estimated numbers in their offensive had always been 150,000 strong. We knew from the engagement at Tinsas that they’d have a better turning radius than our standard ship models, so we predicted that smaller, faster-moving defensive weapons would be ideal,” Onso was saying in the present time, tapping a simulated visual of the outer edges of Talsk’s system, at the time of the enemy’s initial entry. “They might’ve spit asteroids at us, but we had a different idea. Using projected arrival times, we set canons by Talsk’s sun—days of travel away—to fire tungsten rods across their paths. They deployed solar sails behind them to accelerate efficiently, and without leaving any propulsion signature for advance warning. Also, as a bonus, they’re not a large rock that can be seen miles away. There’s your space harpoons.”

Recreations of enemy drones showed blisteringly fast rods impaling into them by probability. Their algorithms reacted much like they had with nanodrones—by sweeping dust guns in front of them to torch any invisible, devastating projectiles. Energy weapons followed up with a few volleys to ensure that any incoming tungsten munitions were destroyed. The Sapient Coalition had known the enemy would have these countermeasures, after they were deployed at Tinsas’ battle, but the constant rod barrage kept at least one of their weapons distracted: even if they still cleared the outer, icy bands of space. Depleting their available energy and microscopic particles gave us a small advantage to build upon. Then again, the casualty counts seemed an insignificant portion of their total offensive: perhaps a few hundred ships hindered by this attempt.

At least we had known the enemy drones’ exact position, and there was no element of surprise. The Yotul Technocracy and United Nations defensive line held about sixty-thousand ships, and waited to contest the hostiles in Talsk’s backyard. After how our allies had fared at a numerical disadvantage in their first conflict, their preparations needed to at least whittle down our foes’ count to be on an even footing. The rest of the SC—eighty other members—had only coughed up a few thousand ships combined, to keep up appearances of following the joint military defense pact. The vast majority of their aid had gone to Nishtal. It was the Terrans’ turn to cook up a trap, with the Yotul having played their Migration tokens; therefore, the cloaked stations, painted in super-black coloration to align with the void, decided to strike.

There were no cameras on the stations, to avoid standing out from the near-invisible object and revealing it. However, we had the humans’ data of the engagement; that was enough for Onso to recreate their powerful strike. While Earth might’ve been content to lie dormant, they were still artists of warfare, deviously creative in the field. While the enemy knew that invisible projectiles were coming from the sun, a nanodrone swarm zipping out from another angle would present a dual problem. The cloaked infrastructure waited until enemies were on their doorstep to strike; only as UN nanodrones zipped away did they reveal their true plan. The hidden outpost detonated a massive antimatter bomb lodged inside of it. 

Shrapnel was hurled in every direction, a massive explosion consuming hundreds of enemies in its radius. I shuddered to imagine that such bombs had struck cities on Earth, and planets that the Arxur had raided. The raw power of the weaponry, tearing apart anything in its wake—a forceful thunderclap unleashed upon the hostiles—was something that terrified Bissems. If one of those reached our planet again, there would be nothing we could do; just as the Tseia had watched their settlements crumble long ago. At Talsk, not even our mysterious foes had an answer to the humans’ gigantic explosion, and that meant we’d scored a serious blow against these invaders at last. The hostile drones compensated quickly, firing out probing missiles for any additional stations that would wreak havoc…and finding the other one.

“The drone algorithms are well-programmed, so it’s likely that, if they can locate a countermeasure, we can only use a tactic once against them before they adjust,” Onso narrated. “We don’t know if the three prongs of their attack are coordinating, but our intelligence suggests the answer is no; we can’t pick up any communication signals. That also means that we cannot relay a message to whoever is behind this back at Tinsas, and implore them to call this off…though I doubt that’d be an option either way.”

The Gojid Prime Minister snorted. “It’s time to stop trying to talk. They have no intention of picking up the phone.”

“It’s never time to stop trying to talk, and I’d much rather resolve this dispute diplomatically than through armed conflict,” Secretary-General Erin Kuemper spoke up, from where she was conferring with Governor Laisa; Dustin mentioned that having the Venlil in our corner would be an “ace in the hole,” with their influence on the UN. Naltor had yet to concoct a plan to bring that about. “Whoever these aggressors are, they must believe we’re the Federation given their targets. They might hold a grudge for the atrocities committed against Tinsas. They’re lashing out, the same as when the Duerten demanded the shadow caste’s deaths—something many of you were very understanding of.”

“Humanity keeps saving every species that’s hurt us. You’re doing it again. Maybe we should’ve just let them have Talsk!” the Harchen ambassador piped up. “Why would you lose so many ships for them?”

“We saved species that hurt us, if you might recall. I believe the Harchen were among them, along with several others in this room. There’s power in mercy. Nobody else has to die, and that is humanity’s belief.”

The Thafki ambassador’s whiskers twitched angrily. “When your species is a delicacy, Madam Secretary-General, perhaps you’ll begin to come around to the idea that some monsters have done enough that they, in fact, have to die.”

“The same thing was said about humanity.” Zurulian Ambassador Chauson, who’d been friendly in our brief interactions, cast a stern glance at the crowd. His people had already welcomed Bissem doctors to train at the Galactic Institute of Medicine, and offered their pre-first contact research on our worst diseases; they were one of the most eager species to accept us. “Saving lives is much more fulfilling than condemning entire species to death. We, for one, are proud to stand behind the United Nations’ staunch anti-genocide policy, and unwavering application of our sapient rights’ articles.”

“The humans never did what the Arxur did to us.”

“And the United Nations, again, shouldn’t have a blanket veto power. The general sentiment in this organization is not in favor of their inflexible enforcement of interstellar law,” Quipa added.

Onso slammed a paw against the podium. “This review of the Battle of Talsk was supposed to be strategic. This is not a game, representatives! Forget what you think of any of this, because it’s beside the point. Where would you rather be trying to stop this assault: by the Farsul homeworld, or by your own?”

The silence that greeted the Yotul’s question was all of the answer he needed, and his facial features relaxed. I didn’t imagine there was a delegation in this chamber that wanted competent enemies en route to their planets.

“Then you should’ve helped. Shall we continue?” Onso asked.

With the testy assemblage back in line, the Sapient Coalition returned to our review of the massive contest; so far, we’d only managed to tackle the initial traps. I hoped we’d have less internal strife as we reviewed the main clash by the Farsul homeworld, with the Arxur, the release of the bombs, and the implications for the other two contests that entailed.

A/N - Part 52! The Sapient Coalition experiences some division following the Arxur’s appearance at Talsk, and argue among themselves as they review how it all went down; many parties aren’t pleased that the Farsul weren’t sacrificed. Onso takes over the meeting after the Venlil governor is under fire for being too cozy with the United Nations, and reminds the delegates what’s at stake. The humans and the Yotul provided the majority of the fighting force, with several novel strategies that KC drones found a counter for. 

What do you think of the expressed viewpoints of the various SC factions, and who’s right in the disputes seen here? What will the SC do about the Arxur’s shocking arrival? What do you expect the results of the Battle of Talsk to have been?

As always, thank you for reading and supporting!

Comments

Sroni

It is alarming that the members of SC think the non-genocide policy is negotiable.

Bbobsillypants

Looks like humanitys still not rocking that numbers advantage, allso I just realize people in this universe keep falsey asuming that earth has been destroyed.

Bbobsillypants

Except the chad zurulians, who just keep being precious little space teddy bears

TheBlack2007

Ahh politics never change…

Wingit98

I'm honestly pretty disappointed in humanity's showing there too. 60k ships between them and the Yotul? Those are numbers I'd expect in the last war. I would think they'd have some crazy numbers by now, and if they do, that they wouldn't be as stingy with them as everyone else.

Michael Halpern

casaba Howitzers, I'd like to see the drones trying to evade or block those.- almost surprised the UN didn't use a fission-fusion bomb for their trap, antimatter requires powered containment therefore would give off soms EM, and it doesn't take much to block out the radiation from the fission fuel to near background

REDemon14

Aww, humanity have the Venlil an island as thanks! That's cute. On the one hand, I understand Quipa's concern about any one species receiving to many votes or having over-arching veto powers. One the other hand, they're making a big stink about humans and venlil being close, meanwhile the Iftali and Suleans exist. Clever using a delayed shot-to-contact strategy with the "harpoons". "*The UN had the sense to move a majority of Farsul civilians of Talsk*" Hey! That's good. "*To another planet where they are still prisoners.*" Dammit. I can see Onso's reasoning with disliking the UN for not trying to push change more in fear of losing allies. (A good amount of us agree), however I don't like how it seems as if the Technocracy is also prepping for a hot conflict with them in the background. That's my biggest fear right now. UN allies still wanting to genocide entire peoples. Disappointed in them. Loxsel is raising an army? This'll be interesting. If the sivkit and farsul are gonna be part of the Alliance the Bissem and arxur are cooking up, I'd workbench the name. Things aren't looking good for the SC. Looking forward to see what comes of all this

Sroni

I dont think a meaningful percentage of ships have been deployed to Talsk. The actual force will be at Nishtal, and I think a truly mindbogling amount of ships are still on guard duty above SC capitol worlds.

Heroman3003

This chapter pretty much confirms my view of Yotul as main antagonists and bad guys of Tassi arc. Nothing they say is honest or genuine, every single thing is dripped in hypocrisy and all their goals are ultimately self-serving. They've shown willingness to completely fuck over innocents for their personal gain, and all their ideological goals are full of lies and hypocrisy at every step. They don't really want Federation traces gone, they want Federation system reinstated with themselves on top, being the ones to decide what wrong and right think is. I cannot see a single thing they do as not some sort of purely self-serving long con with no care for collateral at this point, because thats the only sort of thing they've been doing at this point.

StormTheSquid

Humanity mostly disarmed themselves after the last war, which was a smart move at the time.

Bbobsillypants

Who did they take the land from? My guess is they stole it from the super isolationist canibal tribe. Aritcled 52'd them outta existence.

Ciberj1

Dude at this point the Yotul don't even want the SC to exist. They just want to have their own federation with them at the strings instead. They want revenge for what was done to them and won't stop until they get it.

dmg

There's many uninhabited islands on Earth. But I personally think they artificially created one to give to the Venlil

Bbobsillypants

Wouldnt be much of a research base if it was artifical.

James

Yotul were my favorite in the first series and Paladin was just like "nah" for this second series.

Sci-fi reader

If liquid armor is single use, why not simply have tandem warheads on the missiles, as we have on modern anti tank missiles? First warhead detonates the armor, and the second kills the tank (or ship).

Apogee

Humanity has some friends in the SC, but the problem is they are trying to hold on and please the ones who really are not truly friendly with humanity. Never a good thing. A bit of a toxic relationship going on there. While I agree that humanity should only have one voting block it doesn’t change the fact that it seems a lot of these species are in the SC out of convenience more than anything. It’s, sad. I wish we could just form a group of allies that truly respect and care about one another, but that’s a pipe dream

Neu5Ac

To be fair, a numbers advantage isn't much if you don't have the industrial capacity to back it up. Even if they do have a high degree of industry, it takes a good amount of time to switch to war production and build up a suitable stockpile. Just look at WWII Russia: they had a massive numerical advantage, but got totally bodied in the first half of the war because their industry simply couldn't keep up. It took a massive influx of materials from allied nations for them to start turning things around.

Neu5Ac

That depends on what they're researching, doesn't it?

Dookus Maximus

We'll make our own Coalition! With blackjack and hookers!

Neu5Ac

What is it with people swearing in these recorded, presumably televised, and highly official spaces? I can't imagine that humanity would simply not bother including a code of decorum in a polity they establish. Why isn't there an arbitrator to slam a gavel and say "The Ambassador for the Krakotl will refrain from cursing"? It's hard to take them seriously as politicians when they sound like two Karens bickering in a Publix parking lot. With that out of the way, I'm really happy to see descriptions of cool weapons and defensive technology. Space harpoons and antimatter mines are super cool. I hope we get to see more big, BEEG ships in the future, as one of the quirks of space is that bigger is nearly always better: a kilometers long battleship will have more space to efficiently build engines and more surface area for thrusters, and the mechanical torque limits of the materials used to construct it could be mitigated with strategic placement of maneuvering thrusters. This means that functionally, a huge ship in space would actually be much faster and more maneuverable than a small one, with its biggest weaknesses being that it would present a larger silhouette to the enemy (thus requiring it to be further away to be as difficult a target) and would be much harder to hide.

Neu5Ac

Unfortunately, the SC was simply not made to last. They are, ultimately, a kind of revolutionary government, and those sorts of things tend to collapse within a decade or two. It's a little disappointing that humanity didn't anticipate this and prepare for it, since we'd gotten pretty good at that between the 18th and 20th centuries.

Neu5Ac

A casaba howitzer is simply a plasma gun that accelerates the plasma with a nuclear detonation rather than using the Lorentz Force. They could probably deal with them as easily as they deal with plasma railguns. That said, they could probably work as what are essentially shaped charge mines, which might be useful if the most effective method against their targets seems to be saturation fire.

Byron Ritchie

You can get the prey out of the federation but you can’t get the fed mentality out of the prey

Intricate Zebra

Wait until you see real world governance! Swearing, while discouraged, is common in almost every current republic and, in many countries, it's not rare for physical confrontations to occur!

EliasArt2Life

While I agree with Onso’s assessment that the UN has stopped trying to be better (not entirely, like Tassi noted, but much less than before), I’d like to point out that the Yotul aren’t exactly carrying the torch. They are “no longer trying to be better” too. I’m frustrated at Quipa. That claim she made was superfluous and provocative and I think she knows it. Just assume for a moment that her suggestion WAS entertained. What would need to be done to make it official? You’d have to decide how many aliens on your world is enough for you to be considered a vassal of them. I foresee a lot of immigration controls. The Paltans would almost DEFINITELY have trouble with that, as they took in the greatest number of refugees during the war with the Arxur. Quipa’s talking out the side of her trunk. With how much everyone still wanted the Farsul to be left to die, I wonder if Tassi will realize why humanity has been apprehensive to approach matters regarding the Arxur. If they couldn’t look past their hatred for the Farsul, when humanity and the Yotul sacrificed most of the fighting force, how would they react to the Arxur? Tassi also seems to be remembering that the Yotul were just as, if not more, exploitative of the Bissem, although she hasn’t realized that this makes them a bad candidate for an alliance with. I think the truth is that most of the SC species are adapting to having power and control faster than they are adapting to the responsibility of it. They don’t want humanity to be in charge, but the second that the hard decisions have to be made, they default to humanity’s decision, questioning and second guessing them all the way. Maybe it’s time we do as Onso says we’ve already done; stop trying to be better. We could cut them loose, leave the SC, and give them the “sink or swim” approach. Maybe that would be what it takes. Sure, a few species would probably get killed off, but at least some would learn how to ACTUALLY act responsibly. Or maybe we should start trying harder to do better again; not take the easy road, but start pushing harder. Stop letting them shove the hard decisions into our laps, and call them out like Onso did. Stop taking the responsibility they shove onto us, but rather shove some back and help them work through it. Maybe it’s still too early to throw in the towel. Onso is probably the best diplomat in the SC, with how he stonewalls tangents and attempts to ignore the oncoming problems. Only, his goals are Yotul focused, not SC focused. If he could be convinced to set his sights higher, he would be quite the boon to the SC, in an age where most of the marvelous diplomats from NOP1 agave been replaced with… less adept diplomats… not saying that Laisa or Erin are bad; they just don’t have what it takes to get a room full of people who don’t want to listen to you to listen.

John Benjamin Cate

Dang, I hope the Yotul realize their hypocrisy and work to be better with Onso.

Neu5Ac

I have seen real world governance, which is why I'm surprised there isn't an arbitrator there to tell people off for swearing. That said, my view might be biased: I live in a civilized country where respect for civil offices is considered a serious concern. I've seen people receive gag orders and even be ejected for vulgarity. Besides, resorting to cursing is a sign of weakness in the political field. It implies that you're not able to remain cool under pressure and invites your opponents to goad you in order to control the argument.

EliasArt2Life

In other news, I hope Talsk is alright. Well, not hit as hard as Earth was. At this point Talsk is a totally civilian target… maybe we get a Farsul POV at this point? If we couldn’t stop them from reaching Talsk, only stop them from totally destroying it, even with the Arxur’s help, I worry for Nishtal and Aafa.

EliasArt2Life

I’m holding out hope for them… but yeah… I agree. They are quickly becoming the villains, and don’t even realize it. They only see the flaws in everyone else, but see none of their own. They’re so scared of having their agency taken away from them again, that they are trying to take it away from others. They’ve stopped trying to be better too…

EliasArt2Life

The armor is single use because once it evaporates, it’s gone. It’s just a BIG single use. The type that can absorb MANY blasts. Traditional shields can recharge, so they are multi use. Once they’re gone, they can come back after a bit.

Cara

Hey Space Paladin, I'm curious: which island was given to the velil?

pogman

They probably do. Nobody in this scenario had liquid armor, it was just used as an example of an atmor with a vulnerability. They later used this example to find a vulnerability in the metal drone fleet

EliasArt2Life

You don’t build up your fleet during a golden age. You only do that if you expect a fight. You tend to keep just enough around to stop the first wave on an attack. Also, the fleets are split between Talsk, Nishtal, and Aafa, with the majority likely going to Nishtal. It’s possible (if the theory that Jones is playing 4D chess against the Bissem’s checkers) that humanity expected the Arxur would appear, and sent less ships for that reason.

pogman

I like the Yotul in this, specifically Onso. He seems to want the technocracy to take an even further leap forward than the UN did and fix their Bissem mistake by making them allies of sorts. That's how I understood this chaptet

PhycoKrusk

So build a faraday cage inside the hull; you need the shrapnel anyway.

PhycoKrusk

I'd workshop a name regardless.

Sci-fi reader

That doesn’t make sense. Seems liquid armor works like NERA in real life, but can realistically take only one hit. Liquid flows… https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-explosive_reactive_armor Unlike liquid armor NERA and NxRA are made with solids and cleverly designed spacing. There is no evaporation needed and nothing to flow out from leaks. With tandem warhead ATGMs first warhead triggers the liquid armor and the second detonates behind the next layer.

Sci-fi reader

NERA armor in real life is probably lighter, easier to install, and just as effective.

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2026-09-05 15:00 I don’t understand the Yotul in this. The Yotul seem to not want to do anything, more than the humans do, I can’t comprehend why they’re so opposed at this point. And what do they mean that humans are stagnant, humans are still the ones organizing shit. I don’t get it.
2024-07-04 15:35

REDemon14

"For the love of God, Stop naming factions after DIETS!"

PhycoKrusk

Doesn't look that way to me. To me, it looks like the chief concern among many members of the Coalition is exactly what Quipa expressed: That the UN has too much control. In terms of military power, the Technocracy is the only entity that has even a shot at matching the UN, so that's what they've been trying to do. As for "fucking over innocents for their personal gain," have you forgotten that UN Peacekeeping-Intelligence, Surveillance, and Reconnaissance is still run by Cora Jones, who is at least equally willing to do exactly that? You don't get to call out the Yotul for this, and then pretend that it doesn't count when Humanity does the exact same thing.

pogman

Are you talking about Tassi thinking of the anti matter bombs that fell on earth?

PhycoKrusk

And Humanity doesn't have the same goal? If things were to continue exactly as they are for a few more generations, Earth culture would be the only culture. In the present day, there are 195 countries. Over half of them have McDonald's. Way more than half have Coca-Cola. Almost all of them know who Mickey Mouse is. The Yotul almost lost their culture once; can you really blame them for being legitimately afraid it's going to happen again?

PhycoKrusk

They did anticipate and prepare for it: They've been working on a cultural victory for the past 23 years. What they didn't anticipate was a new enemy coming out of left field and throwing a wrench in everything.

EliasArt2Life

@Edmund Lam Hmm. I was imagining a massive orbital of water filling the drone’s personal gravity bubble. Sort of turning the drone into a giant space water bubble, with the ship in the center. I had no idea that a form of water armor actually exists in real life. I’m going to have to look into this, and see how that changes my perception of the Consortium Drones.

LiminalSouthpaw

The mazics are beyond treacherous, they've pissed me off all the way from the original diplomatic conference in NOP1. It's miraculous that they aren't trying to do what Cupo suggested and be an overlapping member of the SC and the Federation. Onso just plain expects too much of humanity. We're no paragons. 100 million humans on Skalga, holy fuck. Even accounting for 20 years of population growth, that's an uninterrupted flood of immigration, even during Veln's years. That's like 2% of the total population, assuming that the venlil had a postwar increase.

PhycoKrusk

@extra It's rare in Western and Eastern governments, yes, but there are plenty of others where it is considered normal (if undesirable), and it certainly isn't uncommon for fistfights to start. (We must never forget May of 1856 in the United States, however, where on the floor of the Senate, Senator Preston Brooks took a cane and beat Senator Charles Sumner nearly to death over remarks Sumner had made about Senator Andrew Butler, Brooks' cousin. Upon hearing of the assault, Brooks' constituents sent him more canes; the implication was clear)

Daru Arura

SPACE HARPOONS!?!?!!?!?

PhycoKrusk

He doesn't have a lot of incentive to set his sights higher because, as it stands, nobody is looking out for Yotul interests. Humanity certainly isn't, with how Earth culture is now the dominant culture in most of the Coalition, and I certainly can't fault Onso for his attitude, given that he was alive to see his culture almost completely destroyed, and is still alive to see it starting to happen again. I don't know. Maybe I'm just sore at how much culture in the world has been displaced by American culture, rather than synergized with it.

Conure King!

Im here for Loxsel, lord of war. “The missile needs to be pointy! This will put a smile on the faces of those predators”

Aured

excellent chapter - I do like the theory some have floated that the animosity between human/skalgans and Yotul is artificial, playing both sides of the extremes gives them better control of the SC politics

Michael Halpern

Depends on configuration of casaba howitzer, i am including NEFP as a type of Casaba because they are as related as HEAT and EFP are however the advantage is that they can be as powerful if not more than their ship bound counterparts, but come from smaller, more numberous point sources, or if packed into drones, be used at much closer ranges to fry point defenses

Michael Halpern

Yotul probably have somewhat less industrial capacity than the UN- whom has a lot of redundancy in their industrial infrastructure thanks to reconfiguration after sat wars,

Space Paladin

I didn’t specify which one, but I picture an unclaimed tropical island!

Space Paladin

They’re still multi-faceted, but they were the Federation’s new punching bag that suddenly acquired a lot of power! It was never going to be easy 😅

Michael Halpern

Phycokrusk the other problem is heat, this is a problem that plagues anything trying to be stealthy in space, space is big, but there isn't a lot of background IR. while your fission fuel will generate some heat passively, because its all highly refined long half-life isotopes it wont be THAT much, and you can use it to help run the systems, your EM containment field and the faraday cage to hide it will both generate even more heat, for brief periods, you can use an open loop cooling system to bring yourself closer to ambient, which would only be enabled by their sensors predicting the arrival of the enemy forces, and the vapor MAY be visible to some sensors if they are looking for it, so less of it, the better.

Neu5Ac

The exception proves the rule. The UN is a direct creation of Western style politics and remains predominantly Western and Eastern up to the 22nd Century in this setting, and the SC was made primarily by the UN. If they're unable or unwilling to enforce rules of basic courtesy within their own halls, they lack the authority to be a functional union.

TheDudeAbides

I feel bad for the Farsul, for all the atrocities they committed they were basically just following along with the Kholshian's influence and first they get locked into their planet and now that's been obliterated.

DemonVee

If military might is a concern, SC members don't have anyone to blame but themselves. Both Humanity and the Yotul were primitives by Federation standards, and both climbed to the top by innovated upon tools they've been gifted by their allies. They all had 25 years to build up their militaries from a better starting point.

DemonVee

It's a weird comparison you've put forth, but America hasn't conquered anyone to install McDonalds' or Coca-Cola factories abroad, these are "cultural aspects" that spread through trade and diplomacy, and it's not like it erased every local brand or prevented them from growing into prominence. Coca-Cola is sold in Poland, yet Poland's Tymbark has remained huge back home and it's becoming more and more popular abroad. I've noticed that people decrying things like McDonald's, Coca-Cola and Disney as tools of American colonialism are most often those leaning into rampant isolationism, and are just against any form of culture to move from one group to another, no matter if it's done organically. ----- If those "tactics" are Humanities devious goal to conquer Galactic culture... than no one really has anything to worry about. If there even is much proof behind Human culture spreading or being pushed onto everyone beyond Dustin stating that "Earth is the entertainment capital of the Galaxy" (The first truly unique thing anyone could experience in a thousand years of oppression.) or the UN government trying to convince people that "Hey... maybe it's wrong to commit giga-exterminatus on everyone we don't like, just a thought though..." ----- And I'm not sure if the Yotul themselves believe their own spiel about supposedly protecting their own culture, with Onso coming in bearing "Human styled" sunglasses upon his head like a crown, and with the protectors of uplifts taking 0.0001 seconds to abuse and blackmail a new uplifted species for their own political gains.

DemonVee

If Earth culture is truly the dominant culture, which I highly doubt. What would satisfy the Yotul...? If Liern culture was the dominant culture, if no one interacted at all in risk of contaminating each other's cultures?

DemonVee

Been a while since I read the story, but managed to finally catch up :D Great past few chapters SP, things are getting interesting. From the trajectory, I can see Meier doing enough work to rekindle Humanities fire once again to get them more proactive, with Tassi perhaps accidently pushing things along in that direction after her meeting with the Venlil if they manage to see things eye to eye (And hopefully getting a strong ally in the SC that isn't Humanity, or especially the Yotul.) While I don't see the Yotul acknowledging their hypocrisy any time soon. It can cause major damage down the line, and I'm worried it will either result in a three way war by sabotaging Humanities efforts to get the Federation to assist in the war due to opposition to their ideals, or they will try to do a power grab if a pact somehow does work out, trying to root out the Federation ideals that way and inadvertently becoming the Feds they hate. ---- Btw, I love the "Daxfrin" reference from earlier :D

Alekss Žukovskis

thanks for obligatory violence, me gusto. now! To kissy scenes.

Scylla

They were active participants, destroying the cultures and crushing the souls of hundreds of species. If anything, they were worse than the Kolahians since their everyday citizens were aware of it and the average Kolshian knew nothing of the conspiracy.

TheDudeAbides

Since when did all of the Farsul know what they were doing?

Teizu

they’re an oligarchy hellbent on being a pain in the ass of everyone at this point.

Teizu

onso looses all credibility with his ‘we must protec culture’ as he’s literaly wearing human sunglasses what he can’t even use!

Lokyar

The arxur: "damn right you need to stop naming things after food. I mean, 'sapient coalition'? Are you trying to make me hungry?"

Lokyar

I can't wait to see the scouts report on the Kessler cages. Honestly very interested in the Krev viewpoint of the war, especially if we might end up getting a new pov character within the military.

Dookus Maximus

Not wanting to do anything? I didn't get that sense at all. If Onso is truly representative of the Yotul at large, it seems like they don't want anyone to have power over them. I don't think they explicitly oppose the UN, they're just looking out for themselves first and foremost. Also I kind of see why they would say Humanity is stagnant. It seems like the UN just wants to maintain the status quo. They're not pushing to establish relations with the Arxur. They're not doing anything about the Kolshians or Farsul. From what we know, it seems like they may taking a longer term approach to these issues, but at a glance it feels like nothing much has changed in the decades since NOP1.

Gumcel

100 mil humans on Skalga? What the hell.

Kevo

Plz sir, may I have more?

Space Paladin

I’m glad you’ve enjoyed catching up and spotted the reference! Your story was a big part of what inspired me to make the Sivkits more of a focal point 😅

George Smith

Economic imperialism is a thing

George Smith

Disarming yourself, especially when surrounded by hostile genocidal aliens is never a smart move

Joe King

"I was just following orders"

Wingit98

I don't see why we'd disarm ourselves when there's still half of the known galaxy that hates us and is known to want us and anything like us wiped from existence

Joe bro

"But they're just kids"

[REDACTED]TMA

Someone needs to tell these politicians that being ok with the genocide of a species because of their grudge makes them just as morally bankrupt as the federation.

James

There's over a hundred million aliens living on earth now according to the final chapter of the first series.

James

It doesn't seem like anyone is moving to defend Aafa at all and the sum of the UN and technocracy fleets will be at Nishtal.

EliasArt2Life

I have to disagree with your assessment of the Mazics. Don’t get me wrong, I dislike what they’re doing to, but they aren’t being “traitorous”. That would suggest that they pretended to be something else. They’ve ALWAYS been open about their distrust and hatred of predators. In NOP1, Cupo made it clear that he was only entertaining an alliance with humanity because he felt the Federation was a sinking ship. It wasn’t until humanity saved his planet that he changed his tune. But even then, his feeling about predators hadn’t changed, and he just saw humanity as an exception. He contested humanity many times on matters relating to what he considered predatory. What was done here is totally within the established characteristics of how the Mazics act. Sad, and frustrating, even infuriating, but not traitorous.

Laser Bread

This is applicable IRL lol

Some Lvm

Hold up! "Venlil Island"???? What is going on there? Also - Onso, my man - you are so right about the UN! This is exactly why we need Zhao back, not Meir!