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Oren's Forge PG 345 (Patreon)

Published:
2025-05-26 21:00:02
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2026-06
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Next page will be out June 16th! (I'm travelling this week, plus need to sort/move out a storage unit, which I suspect will take a good chunk of time and energy. In the meanwhile, I've got some WIPs/etc to post!)

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Remony Ravine

Love Singer's smug look in the last panel

Dhaka Yeena

Poor Ramble, his worlds unraveling before his eyes and they look down on

Marcwolf

Red meat and marrow.. but at what cost.

Liyoht

now Im wondering will he tell her the reason he is upset...and does she know about the pups hmm

Dhaka Yeena

Ya know I really wonder how Hap would feel if she knew, cuz I think traming a “wild” wolf as a pup would be easier right?

Grey

Very lucky, including the espionage via Scree. This entire conversation is absolutely fascinating and really echoes back to Singer's more outwardly sinister speech to Swift about needing the Zenith. Same thing, different presentation.

Krzysztof K

Yes, it's very interesting whether she knows about how Singer is recruiting or not and whether Ramble will tell about it

treefiddy

Hap over here trying to cheer up Ramble like you would a child who's pouting. "How about we get some icecream, or go to your favorite toy store? No? Jeez, why are you being so dramatic? It's not like we tore apart your entire life and family or anything. It was mentioned that the way this pack operates is fundamentally different to how Rambles pack operates. Rambles pack was a family unit, what kept everyone together was the fact that they were all family and loved each other. Even when that was stressed to it's limit, they stayed together remarkably well. Even Seral (the least related out of all of them sans Scree) refused to leave Swift behind when pushed by Scree, even when he was treated with nothing but hatred and contempt by Swift. From how it seems, the zenith pack is more or less a grouping of individuals/small family units and the primary thing keeping them together is the promise of plentiful food and relative safety (and the threat of death if they defect). They may all care for each other to a certain extent (they obviously cared about Keen), but if the bison were to decide one day to just stop providing for them, they almost certainly would fall apart just as quickly as Hap assumed Rambles pack fell apart. If this is more or less true, and Hap has never actually been in a pack that is primarily held together by something other than easy food, it would make sense why seems so confused by Rambles behavior. She's projecting what she thinks it's like to be in a pack of wild wolves based on how she knows her pack to operate. As in, she thinks wild wolf packs are just a grouping of individuals who are only loosely held together by convenience, and it's every wolf for themself once that convenience is no longer there. She also could be operating on the assumption that the world outside their pack is a terrible place (kind of like what Clay's Grey-Mother said), and that all wild wolves are living terrible lives that they are desperately trying to escape. So from her perspective, wolves like Ramble should be ecstatic to finally be free from the old world. There's also the theory that there is some incongruence between the terms Singer gave vs. the terms that the Zenith pair agreed on, and that Hap is unaware of the actual reasons the pack fell apart.

Krzysztof K

It's really interesting if Hap knows about the way Singer recruits new wolves to the pack. Teagan wrote about the theory of self-domestication of wolves in the Zenith pack which would actually make a lot of sense considering how Singer operates. The wolves that are the most aggressive and fight are killed before they even get to Zenith which means that only those wolves that are gentle, have a low level of aggression and agree to the conditions are sent there which makes Zenith even more domesticated. Just curious about the breeding rights for both wolves and bison - can everyone breed or just selected pairs?

Tori Sol

"Aw, cheer up! Why don't you smile? All we did was tear apart your family! Maybe I can passive-aggressively suggest changing your fucking name. Will that cheer you up???" UGH! So infuriating. And I'm pretty sure Hap is fully aware of how Singer recruits, considering the fact that Scree only joined due to the rest of her family being murdered.

Julian Seguin

Cryptic, condescending, demeaning, dismissive… Hap is a real —— (Insert curse)

Microgrampup

Basically they took Ramble away from a pack with new world traits and now he’s stuck in a pack with the brutality and insecurity of the old world. They just have a few tricks to be irregularly large and take over other packs more effectively. It’s a reverse of what Hap thinks she’s doing for him.