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Oren's Forge PG 387 (Patreon)

Published:
2026-05-18 21:00:10
Edited:
2026-06-15 11:10:44
Imported:
2026-09
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Dhaka Yeena

Well she’s learned how to dodge I’ve take some time to collect my thoughts. Because this is kind of a scary point in the story. And there’s many different ways this could go. One possible path this plays out is that Swift escapes with either nothing or at least a new wound. And my reason for believing this is because the real damage is yet to come. The Zenith is out hunting at the moment. Red and the pups lay between them and the Hollow. So with that in mind I am braced for the worst.

treefiddy

Oren over here with his grandpa reflexes

JeffMakesGames

OREN, COTTON, SWIFT, NOOOOoooooooo Rask! JUMP HER!

Julian Seguin

Well, I am frustrated Swift’s behaviour, this is to be expected. Even if she is smarter than the other wolves, she’s still a wolf. She hasn’t yet learned to see prey as anything, other than that. I think it may be too late for her

Torakhan

Rask: "...perhaps I have made a mistake."

Terror

This made me laugh more than it should've lmao

treefiddy

I wouldn't say she's smarter than the other wolves at all. She's just very bold and very lucky. She has a long history of making very stupid and reckless decisions, and constantly picks battles that she has no business winning.

Pantera

I'm shocked that Cotton stepped in here actually. Hopefully his hero moment won't end up in his death. Eh, Swift, I wonder what was her plan - snatch a rabbit and run off? With every page it seems less likely that the Hollow and Swift's family will reach any peaceful arrangement any time soon. Unless everything changes again when the Interlopers will appear in the forest.

Sheatherius

I would like to say, as aggravating as Swift behaves, it's good writing because it would have been "easy" and expected to make Swift be much more open minded than she is, while also being significantly less realistic for her character. It's messy and complicated and keeps me invested for how this all plays out. At this point, it becomes hard to see a solution where she lives.

LukeOnTheBrightSide

She has two hungry pups, and her and Red aren't exactly well fed, either. Whatever is in the intermediate future comes after getting food for her family, and... here the food is. Desperate people do desperate things. Or, uh, desperate wolves.

Flann Moriath

Oof, Rask had better intervene if he wants to have any possible future at the Hollow. I wonder if Swift is considering bringing the metal back for Red to have? If so, that could make her family a bigger target for the interloper wolves. Either way, she is putting her family in a very precarious position here. I don’t see any way the Hollow creatures will ever trust Swift now.

Sheatherius

She is justified in-universe because she is a hungry wolf and wolves eat rabbits and hares. The hollow animals are also justified to gut her for it (and Rask should really be the one to go for it, since he is the reason they tried to speak to her!). But if she is really going to be this resistant to new ideology, and dies as a result, and we're left with only Red and the pups, I'm not sure where that goes either. Red ultimately sides fiercely with Swift - he is physically not able to hunt the hollow animals (easily) but had no issue letting Swift catch Rask, so even his ideology is currently not in a place to change yet. The kids are young enough to learn an entirely different worldview without much issue in the event their parents both die but this could tread uncomfortable ground if it involves effectively cutting the predator off from its entire culture and, presumably, raising it as a tool the way Rask has not wanted to be.

Krzysztof K

Yes, in this comic Swift really had a lot of plot coincidences that brought her and her family a lot of luck, maybe the animals from the Hollow will also have so many coincidences that will bring them luck.

Busterdrag

Yeah, no idea what her action here is. There's several takes I guess I could make: -She's trying to intimidate them and show them their metal is not as powerful of a deterrent as they think it is. A single wolf taking down the leader and his retinue of guards and the "predator" they tamed. Maybe she's not intending to kill them, but scare them into either leaving the place or to keep them out of her territory? Perhaps some of the words are not falling on death ears but she's going to teach these guys a "lesson" because she knows what's coming. -Maybe she's thinks killing Oren makes the rest of the prey easier to catch, with no weapons they're all ripe for the picking. Feast up, hope her pups grow fat and strong enough in short enough time for the journey then move on. She's not believing a single word these guys said and knows the Bison-Wolf "army" is going to ravage this place anyway. -Maybe she's not thinking at all. So far a lot of her actions were just impulsive, rash and bold, and she's just been lucky and skilled enough so far to not end up dead. She can't make sense of the world, neither of the Bison-Wolf alliance nor this. She doesn't care for any of it, she doesn't waste time thinking, she's just gonna do whatever the moment puts in her head.

Grey

Oh I am so fascinated to see how this goes!

Vinny Coyote

Snake... er.. Swift! Try and remember the basics of CQC!

Ouroboros

What happened to the spear Oren was originally holding? Hopefully there is a way out of this without Rask driving it through her back.

Gale Tazzin

uh oh she got the designated redshirt instead of the plot linchpin. cotton is definitely toast

Gale Tazzin

the Hollow is fundamentally about being stronger together, which requires you to admit you're not strong enough to thrive on your own. Swift has asserted the opposite at every turn.

Gale Tazzin

I think it will be easier for Rask to intervene here than it was in volume 2, because that time, he had manipulated Swift into his trap, and he felt like a hunter again. This time, she is here because she demanded this rendezvous, and Rask laughed off the danger when Oren was hesitant, so he's obligated to defend them

Sebasxian10

I’m leaning towards Swift’s actions to be to prove a point. In the panel where she’s face to face with Oren, it seems she has the opportunity to do far more damage to him than nipping his arm. Similarly, in the panel of her snaking the spear away from Cotton, she’s bracing him back rather gently before she then grabs him next panel. Though the progression of these events is occurring in a split second, so I could just be armchair quarterbacking the action. Either way, I’m super excited to see how this resolves!

Microgrampup

Plenty of brains for combat. That’s all she needs here for a two small herbivore feast if Rask or the mouse doesn’t do something, and successfully too.

Star Drake

oh i hope cotton doesn't die, rask would blame himself like he did for sprig and that already pretty much broke him

Allyson

*distantly, the sound of my incoherent screaming from behind my phone screen*

Loïc Van Doorn

Interesting that she went for Oren's shoulder instead of his throat. She's clearly not trying to kill him or he would already be dead.

Marcwolf

Enter The Rask...

Chasey

Hm. Does she actually intend to kill anyone here or is she still trying to make a point about weapons/no weapons? I hope the latter, but I doubt it. She deliberately asked which was Oren and went for him, so the speech about hunting was likely just diversion, I think. I really don't know how this is going to end up with Rask being allowed to stay now that his idea of recruiting a wolf has gotten Oren himself hurt, but I suppose we'll see if Swift has more things to say instead of crushing Cotton's windpipe in the next page.

treefiddy

She doesn't know anything about the bison and wolves beyond the tiny amounts that Scree said. She's still under the impression that the rival wolf pack has subdued a herd of bison. Realistically, she doesn't know how big that wolf pack is either, or just how much of a danger they truly pose to her and her family.

Dinah

Well, maybe the next panel will be Swift getting a porcupine tail to the face lol

Microgrampup

I’m thinking she’s wanting to surplus kill like Yarrow so then she has lots of food before she has to hunt again.

Raptorzs

Its on like donkey kong now!

KiraKurotsuchi

That’s it. I’m calling in the Spartans. Let them show Oren’s crew how to really use a spear.

A Mills

I hope Rask doesn’t become completely guilt ridden as this plays out, his willingness to change and see the potential for change in others is why he’s one of my favorite fictional creatures.

JeffMakesGames

Right now, I can only hope that Cotton doesn't die. I mean, she could crush him right now and I am hoping Cotton's story doesn't end here. Right now, I know of 3 spears that were present. Oren had one, Cotton had one, and there was a third prey with a spear. If Cotton charged in, did 3rd spear charge in too? Are they about to strike Swift? I assume Oren's spear is also down just next to Swift. Maybe Rask can snap himself together and grab it and wound Swift, freely Cotton, and redeeming himself. "Guess the Marten isn't useless after all, Sprig..." Can Sybil do anything or is she perhaps in shock at what just happened? Wonder if we might get Hemlock as a surprise appearance. She has been missing for quite some time.

Givemeyourmilk

yeah no I think she fully intended to kill Oren here. She was going for the throat and he just barely twisted out of the way in time. Look at the size of her teeth and how deep they went into his arm. those wounds are /bad/ and he'll be lucky of he can even forge again after this.

Wyn Bird

Matching wounds! Matching wounds!!!!

BritishRabbit

Huh, he made the same mistake Hemlock did and overcommitted to the thrust. Wonder if he's gonna get to learn from it like Hems has.

BritishRabbit

Honestly Hemlock showing up after some time reflecting on how her last fight went would be pretty hype. She's aware there's a family of Wolves about, her gang reconvened at the Hollow so there's every chance one of them tipped her off.

Microgrampup

I was wondering how Baneberry and the others Hemlock sent with him would feel about the news that Rask failed his mission to kill the wolf.

Rachel

She just takes it out of their hands. I thought for sure they would have been able to take her but it's so easy!

Star Drake

I've been rereading a bit since it's been a while since I had subscribed and it made me think, did we actually ever see the animals use the spears succesfully, except for hemlock like twice? 😅

JeffMakesGames

EDIT: More thoughts added... and more thoughts... and guesses... EDIT 2: Testing them? Well... Thinking some more, there is just so much hitting the fan at this point. It's so hard to guess as to what we'll see next Monday. The Zenith are about to enter the woods. If they stumble across Red and the Pups, they are as good as dead. Same for Swift as she killed one of the Zenith members. Rask pointed that out to her that he knows they are on the run. Having bitten Oren, I cannot see how this does anything but doom her family being stuck in the woods with nowhere to go. If Swift kills Cotton or anyone here at the Hollow, I can't see Rask being trusted by Oren or the Hollow again, being seen as not only as useless but a royal fuck-up for trying to reason with a wolf. It also dooms Swift and her family to the woods where they will be discovered by the Zenith, and again, they will be killed.. If Rask can grab a dropped spear and wound Swift to save Cotton and make Swift retreat, that would be some kind of redemption of his reputation. ("Maybe, he's not so useless after all, Sprig...") We also have not seen the other 3rd spear yet that was behind Sybil. If they can strike Swift's wounded shoulder, that might free and save Cotton. I also don't know if Sybil will do anything. Would a wolf even listen to a Porcupine? It's possible she could stop Swift with words. "If this other wolf pack that you are running from finds your family, what will they do?" Another possibility that might stop Swift in her tracks and save Cotton, which... it feels unlikely but could be possible, is if Hemlock finally shows up, and has one of Swift's pups with her. It has been since Feb 12, 2024 (Page 306 was... 828 days ago?!) that we last seen Hemlock (only a day or two in the story). From page 73-74, it is clear that Hemlock can speak somewhat to Rask, ("Up! Slow! Move! Follow squirrel!") so it's not a stretch that she could maybe speak to a wolf? I mean, part of me doesn't think she would just simply abandon the 2 wolf pups after killing Seral. Wait. Maybe Hemlock will show up but not with a pup but with Seral's tail? If Swift sees this, she might stop her attack as her pups told her that "A flying rabbit saved us." so this might be something too. Also, did Red even listen to Rask? i mean, Swift's mate has to know that they got nowhere to go and Swift attacking them does not help them if they are being chased. Another thought worth adding is that I have doubts that Hemlock would just abandon the 2 pups in the woods after saving them. I can't help but feel that she kept an eye on them or the family from a distance. It could be possible she showed up to Red and the 2 pups after Swift left to meet at the lake, but I am not sure if Hemlock would even speak to a maimed wolf or the pups. Another thought further is and was... what if Swift is just testing them? I mean, she was told she could be safe there, but if they can't even protect themselves? Well... Swift could have simply just took Oren's spear and backed away, but she went further than that and WOUNDED Oren, and now has Cotton in a death grip. This is driving me bonkers. AM I MAKING ANY SENSE HERE? D: TL:DR - Cotton or anyone of the Hollow being killed next page would be a disaster for Rask and Swift. Rask would never be trusted again. Swift's family would be stuck in the woods. Zenith has entered the woods this morning and WILL kill the family if found. Maybe a surprise Hemlock can stop this attack?

Vincent Taylor

Agreed on this- especially because her expressions don't look desperate and aggressive, they look very calculated and like she knows her exact chess moves here, one by one. She could have done SO much more damage to Oren there than a small nip. Nothing permanent.