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The Preview - Dundee United (a) (Patreon)

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Rangers return to league action on Sunday as the fans demand a reaction to the putrid showing at Parkhead last time out. 

Dundee Utd have started the season well, and even enter the game above us in the table, so it's time to roll up our sleeves and get to work. 

Alex, Steven and Ian bring you The Preview. 

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John Smith

The saddest thing is I’m not sure any of us would be that surprised if something went wrong tomorrow

Alan

Surely he "rests ' Tav and plays our new no. 10 from the start.

Peter Hosie

do H&H have any info on the rumours about JB? and now one of the Parks?

Peter Hosie
>>149415943

He’s too arrogant to admit he’s wrong and Tav will start. John Lundstram played Phil like a fool and all Phil done was praise him and play him. Sadly it looks similar to Tav where he can only see the previous player and not the current one. I’d love for Tav to prove me wrong but we can all see the decline and it’s worrying that Phil can’t.

John Smith

Bennet’s gone ! Bring on the Halsted

John Smith

We need to bring back Stevie G

Kyle Fitzpatrick

Raskin can't pass or shoot. He's good in big away games to press and be energetic in midfield, but he's severely lacking any quality. No way he can do what Barron does in that 6 position.

mark wyper

I just hope the players are up for the fight because we all know that United will get tore in to us .

Christopher pollock

I’m not expecting us to win a trophy this season and think we need to see a style of play or the manager will be in trouble if he isn’t already

DITA

Think Ian speaks a lot of sense here!!! Great show gents👏👏👏

David Ashmead

Good listen, good insight and debate 🇬🇧

Mark Rennie

We've been rebuilding since 2012

Ronald Fraser

Raskin needs a run of games ??? Cantwell and Hagi have offered more than Raskin ever has ….and we know their situation . He’s had about two good games …ever!! I feel if he wasn’t Belgian he’d be away by now . If he can’t put a 10 decent game run together then I’d punt in January .

Stewart Robertson

Ian’s right. We were dog shit in the early 80s, but we always got stuck into them. We had players who knew what the Old Firm was about. Fuck sake, why do teams raise their game against us, but we can’t raise ours against that mob ?

David Innes
>>149429804

To be honest I think the manager is one bad domestic result away from the majority of the support turning against him. People keep saying he has to win the next old firm but if we’re 10+ points behind by then if would be as meaningless as Beale’s victory over them. We need to see massive improvements starting tomorrow for him to have any chance of seeing out the season

JimGLW

Bored to death of hearing "these things happen" and a reference to previous great rangers teams losing as a way of excuse for celtic pumping us.

Spoon
>>149440914

The part the board and all the new managers just don’t get, they want us to wipe our memories clear when for 12 years they have made shit decisions to either over or under support managers.

Spoon

Clement is making excuses and they are becoming worse as each week passes. The calibre of player we bring in and the profile is dire, expensive foreign show ponies for an industrial league and its now boring to hear how people need time, we are rebuilding, we can’t expect much etc. Alec trotting out the stats is him channeling Clement from the pressers, its miles off acceptable. We have a tragically flawed signing policy and transfer focus, we have replaced lightweights who didn’t deliver with slight less expensive lightweights who aren’t delivering. We have indeed been overspending, we have been wasteful and spent poorly, to claim we can’t be far far better with our facilities and alleged coaching chops is disingenuous. Those who would excuse the performance levels (not the results which I do accept might take a hit with lots of changes) are in denial. We have been talking rebuild for a decade while making the same mistakes over and over again, players not at the required level, players without the required physicality, players without the drive and spirit needed, players who can’t stay fit, project players who are either shattered or too early in their development. It’s a nonsense. The board take the blame for this but the manger must accept he isnt getting the best out his raw materials. It’s actually mind boggling that despite people talking about squad changes, manager changes, board changes and now stadium changes we are basically seeing the same shite on the park. The issue isnt looking back its that we are getting the same junk repackaged, this isnt different at all to my eyes, its the same exotic imports who wont translate to Scotland. What would be different is a more basic tactics, stop trying to be pep junior and just play the league and teams we have in front of us. Moving forward is fine but let’s do it honestly, this obsession with wing play and 10s is smoke and mirrors, we need to change our tactics. Im sorry guys but apathy is the phrase. I have watched this nonsense for 12 years, I have identified (as an utter layman) huge flaws in how we run ourselves and how we play and I am bored being told there are nuances that make it ok. It’s not OK, it’s not acceptable and we are being fed nonsense wrapped up as gold. Moving forward means things being different, it means big players being dropped, a new shape, an admission he can see this isnt working. If he keeps on the stat track and pretends his system is producing he’s insulting the fans. I started watching in the 80s I remember the empty east enclosure and euro nights where the hopes were pinned on Ted McMinn but as Iain said, I knew we would fight. We have no divine right to win, we need to earn it, we need to be driven, we need to be willing to do whatever it takes, the players must show heart even if they dont have flair. We arent seeing that and the manager is becoming increasingly erratic, he needs to get people back on board. I dont mind not winning if I can see us building, I dont mind a defeat if the opponent earns it, we are making it easy for them and hamstringing ourselves with stupidity to my mind. I dont want Clement gone, but he needs to do far far better.

JimGLW
>>149455314

His excuses and ramblings are absurd now. And anyone can claim now we are learning from our mistakes is absurd. And "back the manager" as a solution just because didn't work when heard it on here the last few years and won't work now. This is down to Clement to show some progress and value from the millions he is spending

Thomas Blair

On Tav/Maeda, watch how the Hearts RB played v Maeda today - completely dominated him. Embarrassing the state Tav gets himself into when up against him.

Hendi

Big Alex absolutely spot on! This is the reality of the situation. Dredging up the past to justify tantrums amongst our support changes nothing. This is where we are and there is only one route out of it. Why is it surprising that we haven't beaten them in 5 games?? We don't have a player that would get in their side! We can't change the past, only the future. Greeting and whining is like a wean throwing a tantrum because their ice cream has melted - its not going to bring it back! Shouting that it's "unacceptable" changes nothing. The season is a write off, the priority was to reduce the wage bill and try and put in place the foundations for a more productive future. That process has started. We have no alternative.

Hendi

Absolutely nowhere near a £30m spend... Any spend has also been counter-balanced by millions of pounds of wages freed up with Goldson, Davies, Lundstram, Barisic, Cantwell, Jack, Roofe, Lammers, Wright etc all leaving... it would cost millions just to stand still. At least try and offer some balanced analysis.

Martin Sutherland
>>149429804

Correct. His recent record is appalling. Beale and Gio were sacked for less. The league cup win and mini challenge last year has clouded everyone’s judgement. Celtic were shit last winter and let us in. Clement hasn’t improved us in any shape or form.

C. J

Strider runs far too much covering fire for mediocre footballing outcomes tbh. Assuming that we can’t strengthen going into any window is just lowering the expectations of our recruitment team. They are elite level operators and can’t assemble a good team on a tight budget? Why employ these guys then, if they don’t have the skills to spot and sign the sorts that Aberdeen have been for 3 years now? Celtic ripped us apart with Maeda, Johnston and Hatate, they all cost less than Dio.

Stewart Robertson
>>149455314

Things changed for me after the Dundee game. His post match analysis was either deluded or he was deliberately taking us for mugs. We know what we are watching - Don’t pish down our legs and try to tell us it’s raining.

David_Davy_Dave

AP season 1 of Celtic is the comparison I’ve been coming back too as well The bit you forgot is their success that season had a huge slice of luck Gerrard leaving Covid moving old firm game EL run costing us points So yes this is a transitional season but we need to hang in because it’s not just our improvement that can make it more it’s EVENTS across the city be that injuries, terrible CL, Rogers running off to Everton or whoever…

Scott Watson

What can we expect our our money is an interesting one Alex made the point on a pod a while back that if we think about a £5m player, we think they should come in and rip the league apart but then if we look at some of our own players, we wouldn't want to sell them for £5m and they're not doing that Granted, right at this moment in time we probably don't value many of our own players very highly but that's got a lot to do with our current misery Consider there was a time we wouldn't accept a bid of £16m for Morelos - a player who never scored more than 18 league goals in a season for us

JimGLW
>>149487798

We've spent over £20million on a forward line the last 2 summers but apparently cannot expect to see any value in that. Sadly them across the city don't have such low expectations.

Spoon
>>149484371

The process has started every year for the last 10 years or so, the process is the problem. The club have been given faith year on year on the understanding they will actually change things, then every year they make the same mistakes and trot out the same excuses. Blind faith is no more the answer than scorched earth. Stop saying things will be different and let’s see them start doing things differently. People at the club from player, through manager to board all need to take ownership and do far far better. Meek acceptance that this just is what it is doesn’t resonate for me.

Hendi
>>149484371

The recruitment approach and process this year is completely different to any year.

Spoon
>>149484371

Nah not for me, same markets, same profiles, same round pegs in square holes, zero difference, systemic issue. We don’t have the proper scouting or recruitment structure and no CEO we are throwing jelly at the wall, and it’s not sticking.

Hendi
>>149484371

That's just categorically untrue. We had been signing established players from the English championship and Belgium. Since Clement came in we have signed young prospects from north Africa, Denmark, France and Cyprus.

Spoon
>>149484371

Nothing of the sort your trying to snapshot a problem that’s been years in the making and ongoing. Prior to Clement we had signed or loaned lots of young players from all over some of which were loan to buy, we stripped academy prospects and tried to play them so not sure there’s much change in direction. I have seen plenty younger guys come in and do little in the last decade, in fairness at least more of them had actual experience of British football. You highlight the issue I am raising, taking punts on players from other leagues that have nothing in common with our own. You can be a great prospect in a technical league like Belgium but it doesn’t mean it works here. You’re just adding difficulties to overcome in language, settling, family and football style that we don’t need to be adding in. It’s hard enough as a young guy to break in without all those additional issues. Clement seems to have convinced the board he’s a football guru and these guys are a good fit, what we haven’t seen is much in the way of coaching or development of what we have. If you think guys like Propper and the Albanian guy are young prospects then fair play, I don’t and I don’t think buying guys who haven’t played a senior game (boy from Milan) or have come from Morocco with a handful of senior games instead of going for a Miller or Watson makes sense or is value. You are entitled to see it your way of course, me I’m sick of the club taking the piss and pretending we are making sea changes or actually rebuilding only to give things a facelift. Clement slated Beales regime, pre-season and injury issues. Is this year better ? Is it acceptable to say that the team won’t be ready until November ? If we are desperate for a 6 why are we buying prospects for £millions who don’t even play ? You might categorically disagree but the proof of things is in what we are seeing on and off the field. It looks like a shambles, it feels like a shambles, maybe it’s just a shambles ? Until they make a proper shift to our approach and we can see it materially on the pitch I suspect many will remain unconvinced and discontented.

Angus Mackay

I very belatedly got round to listening to this today and it was very interesting. Honestly I feel that a massive part of the support’s problem at the moment is that many are projecting the recent past on to the present. I see new players and - gradually - a new team emerging. It’s got a long way to go, obviously, but it’s there. It was never all going to be done in a window and sone of the old guard still need gone, but if we give this team a chance we’ll see that it’s not going to be defined by them and their failures. Connie Barton is a case in point, from day one the boy has looked like he knows he belongs here, something his predecessor never seemed to entirely have a hold of. If we stop projecting the past on to the present, we’ll enjoy the ride a lot more. As has been said this week, we have no choice but to embrace what is a new experience for us, how we do that will either help or hinder that process enormously, that’s down to us. This is a harder reset than we wanted, but the bigger picture is what we demanded - and what we need. Now it’s time to walk the walk. We have trifled with sustainability since our return, now we have really started putting the model in place. If it succeeds and John Bennett does nothing else, history will remember him very well for that alone. Thanks lads.