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Post Match - Dundee United (a) (Patreon)

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Colin, David and Cammy are here to discuss today's match.

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John Smith

People need to get off Souttar’s back. He’s made to be our captain

8luenose1872

Why is watching us on the tv so much more nervy than being at the game. I mean its not even close.

Scott Corral

The second not going in did give us a trickier afternoon but I will say there’s some shoots of potential with the young players that have been brought in.

8luenose1872
>>149504263

Ha ha, i mean if he plays like that for the rest of the season then he has a shout but im not banking on it.

Andy MacArthur

I took more positives from the game than negatives. Can now see structure and phases of play and see what the manager wants from the team. Once it clicks I think we will be a really effective team. Igamane and Bajrami look good, still not convinced on propper. Dessers and Souttar can’t not be relied as first team options longer term, hope we can fix that in January. 3 points, clean sheet and up the road.

Fraser86

My worry during the game was dundee utd changed shape and we didn't adapt as the game went on, looked at one point we were going to throw it away. Big soutter looking any better lads

John leitch

3 points and back up the road

David

Hefty 😂😂😂

Dingus

Robertson, Clancy and others deliberately turn a blind eye to teams gaining 10-15-20yds so that they can launch long throws into our box. It is NOT incompetence. They know what they are doing.

Melvin Simpson

When you talk about Connor Barron you could just as easily be referring to Ryan Jack. Lots of promise.

Stace1ofthePeople

Mixed views. Happy with 3pts clean sheet. Follow on we go 💙 Lawrence can and will contribute and has an eye for goal he just needs rotated. Igamane looks strong and fast hopefully he can start banging goals in and help dessers. Bijrami flashes of quality, confident he'll kick on. Would have like to have seen cerny start and sterling start before dowell? Dowell brings zero. He is just OK and OK isn't good enough. Not bashing him he is just a bit meh. Frustrating we don't have any consistency, we play some great one touch ,slick stuff then we look like headless chickens . You just dont really know what rangerss you are going to get. One thing I would say is personally I do see potential in this team , I see hunger and talent. we miss cohesion and consistency at times but hoping 3pts and clean sheet gives the team confidence and momentum to kick on. Keep going rangers please

Russ

We shouldn't keep quiet about the referee just because it's a win, Robertson was hell bent on making it about him. 10+ cards, it was never that kind of game. You're seeing it in England too - the standard of British refereeing is in the gutter atm.

Colin Mathie
>>149508179

14 in last nights Villa game, 8+ in todays Arsenal game and a shit ton in our game to, its ridiculous.

Doogz

Is excessive force ok now if you connect with top of players foot? Jefte was a nonsense booking from ref. Looked better first half Cortes threatening, and Igamane performance offers hope going forward, need start taking chances and burying teams when on top.

Hendi

Plenty identifying Dowell and Lawrence starting as a problem. That's easy enough. What's the solution? Who are the outstanding replacements waiting in the wings? Sterling? Hardly ripping up trees.... the new boys showing hardly suggested he'd have done any better if he had started today.

Tolmie

Surely raskin will be starting ahead of diomande soon, igamane looks really good

Graeme clunie

Plays dowell when hagi rots in the b team,

Gordon Millar

Our work off the ball needs to improve when we lose ithe ball we don't win it back quickly enough, teams of relatively poor quality can break at pace on us, we need to control the game in the midfield and be aggressive in the challenge for more than 10-30 minutes of a game!

Ryan Stewart

A pity we weren’t able to add a couple more goals when we were on top. Even in the second half we’ve had a couple of good chances. As 1-0 wins go about as comfortable as you could ask for tbh, Utd zero shots on target Really good cameo again from Igamane, we need to stop babying him, he’s ready to play.

Stewart Robertson

Bomber on RTV said the Barron tackle was a red - and that’s coming from BOMBER !

Andy McGowan

Cameron's repeated blasphemy is out of control and unchecked by the presenter Colin McMaster, I expect better on a Sunday for fuck sake.

Innes McLaren

On the lack of red card for DUtd. There no mention of foot vs leg in the laws of the game...... it states .......A tackle or challenge that endangers the safety of an opponent or uses excessive force or brutality must be sanctioned as serious foul play. So red for me.

Billy McCormack

Sterling last season got sent off for slipping into a player so the Barron one is no different, it was a red card offense.

Calum Robertson

3 points, up the road and Mr Burns celebrates another birthday

Robert Atkinson

I actually took a few positives from that performance today. Cortes, Igamane, Bajrami all looked decent. The right wing still needs work. Dowell did little in the final third, but he covered for Tav very well. We really need a 6 with presence. Still confused about Sterling, he picks up an incredible amount of bookings for minutes played. Every game he makes a very easy tackle. Also, if he can’t displace Tav, then we need someone who can.

Doogz
>>149504263

He’s miles off captain material John sorry, played decent today, but what was he up against?

Spoon

Decent initial spell but think there’s a bit of hyperbole around the performance. Excellent passing and movement for 30 minutes but still a lot of huffing and puffing. I get the almost universal despair at the current striking options, even if I don’t quite agree, but Igamane has played about 30 minutes done about as much as Danilo and now he has to start ? Not sure about that, looks a lot like a younger Dessers with about the same mobility. I suppose that will be enough for some. None of the new signings have done much to impress beyond not being the guys we have seen disappoint us for the last 12 months. Not seeing the stuff others are in Igmane or Propper but absolutely think Barron and Jefte are showing up well for the last few games. Positive in terms of result, lots of nice play early in the game but I want a run of this play and it to last 70-80 minutes before I think a corner has been turned. Put simply I’m not ready to be fooled again by one game where some people showed up in spells. If it continues for a few weeks and gets better, we might have something.

JimGLW

Dessers making an utter arse of it again at the end of the first half changed the whole tone of the game. Instead of control at 2-0 for half time we are struggling at the end.

John Smith
>>149504263

I know what you mean Douglas but to be fair they’ve been pretty good recently. I think he gets it and he can be a leader if given the opportunity. He showed that at Hearts.

Kenny Park

Why do we pointlessly play balls forward from defence to mid, and they immediately pass back? It’s like being in training, it’s pointless. Adds nothing. They should be told to stop it unless you have a man on.

Spoon
>>149524056

Shhhh Stuart , his hold up is non existent and he didn’t play Cortes in on the next passage of play either. At the start when the team was good he was fine, one assist and one miss, when the team dipped he got isolated and less effective, it’s not rocket science. 442 and who knows how much better he might do.

Jamiedfa

We are crying out for a midfielder is what I took from the game today

Stuart Hill
>>149524056

😂😂 agree spoon, he’s not the one to lead the line and hopefully Igamane can develop to the CF we require. Dessers also had another assist before goal when he set up Lawrence again through with Cortes when they should have done better, just think the Dessers haters agenda ( not necessarily you) seems to erase the good things the big fella does. Also agree a system change well be the answer !!

Jim Milne

It's going to be a long long long season. This feels like the Eck season with George Burley at Hearts, only this time it's Aberdeen.

Heart and Hand
>>149523514

Where are you seeing the hyperbole? Every fan I’ve seen has thought good for 30, average to poor the rest.

Spoon
>>149523514

I’m not talking about the team as a whole. I’m talking about players who come in do about what you would expect from a new guy but immediately start getting hype. Wasn’t suggesting it was from you or the podders more comment on forums and fans in general. You don’t think some have gone early on Igamane from very little playing time ? Last few weeks it was Danilo based on a few appearances where most of his time with us has been ravaged by constant injury. I personally think we are far too quick to hype and condemn people in equal measure, if the last number of years should have taught us anything it’s that people have started well and faded while others have come onto games from innocuous starts. To me, largely due to elements of what we do being a bin fire at times, actually judging a players ability in this team is incredibly difficult, I’m sure at least a few of the guys we have emptied might actually have been ok in a more settled side or with better around them or playing a style they suited better. A general point David about a lot of the comment around Igamane, who was by no means bad just not as spectacular as some are making out, we seem desperate to over egg decent at times. It’s ok to start and just be ok for a bit, just personally think for sometime now we as a fan base have been a bit quick to hype guys up or knock them down, a gentle caution not a scathing critique bud. Btw thought some of the opening 30 was as good as we have played in a few season, making it stretch out to 70 or 80 minutes is the challenge.

Tolmie
>>149524056

I agree with you, some of dessers play today was very good

Jamiedfa

I see H&H has their pin up boy this season on Barron, he played ok, Souttar and ( even) Lawrence had better games imo.

Spoon
>>149524056

Stuart, Tolmie the big man is a flawed player, no doubt on that but I defend him constantly on his contribution which some (not all) seem desperate to belittle. He does miss easy chance and at times over plays but it’s also unfair to say he can’t hold up or link up, some of his lay offs and passes for people to run onto are excellent but get ignored. I agree with the general point that he isn’t really the striker this system needs, that’s fair but he’s miles off the joke figure some make out. Who knows what the big guy might be able to do in a pair or if not asked to occupy a defence constantly when it’s not his game. Criticism of him is often fair the over criticism or the glee some have in slating him just turns me off.

Ian Milne

Colin infuriates me with his pronunciations of players names lol 😂 Putting the Jefte one to the side he said Dimande instead of Diomande shortly afterwards. 😂

Callum

Barron does more than just the basics well. He plays the ball forward quickly and incisively (or did until they brought the extra centre midfielder on after 30 mins). Really looking forward to seeing this lad develop.

Heart and Hand
>>149523514

Yeah, it's inevitable though. People go over the top in praise and over the top in criticism. Igamane looks promising, no more than that. But he offers a bit of hope, which has been in short supply so I'm not surprised people have grabbed it. For me Jefte is the one I was most impressed with today.

JimGLW
>>149524056

I don't think anyone takes glee in us having such an expensive striker not up to it, surely?

Spoon
>>149523514

100% on Jefte, looking better every game. Let’s hope we don’t put too much on some of the younger guys like Barron though and burn them out as our management of younger players hasn’t been good. In fact our game management of players has been poor in general. I would just like to see us judge players in a way that doesn’t have to be a zero sum game, as we are dealing with a pack of factory seconds by and large, most are serviceable if used properly but the majority do also have flaws. Hope is good, it’s football and that should be what it’s about, but this team have a had a knack of dashing your hopes as quickly as they build them recently, I’m definitely hopeful but it’s a measured expectation now. Purely based on a good chunk of watching us turn hope into despair by our own madness.

Chris Wight

On the ‘orange card’, since when did it matter what part of the player you catch have anything to do with if it’s a red card or not. Surely if a tackle has potential to injure a player, and it’s high, and it’s fast, then it’s a red card. Just need to look at how Ryan Jack was sent off on multiple occasions for us to see that. Connor Barron is an absolute gem and has potential to go on to be a high value asset for us. We need to keep him fit and try our best not to run him into the ground. Next weekends game against Dundee is a great chance to give him a rest and maybe only bring him on for the last 20/25 minutes.

Graham Roy
>>149528489

I personally think our problems are up front if we had a decent forward line today we win that 3 or 4-0. Dessers hold up play is awful and no surprise the 1 time he actually did that properly we score. Igamane looks promising but in January we need to bring in better than Dessers.

Colin Heggie

Out or order, David, for picking up Colin on pronunciation of Jefte 😂😂

Neil Casey

Re the red card, David - it was the same as Sterlings 'red' versus Aberdeen at Ibrox last year imo. Curiously, Robertson chose red in that game. VAR consistent in both incidents

Spoon
>>149524056

Jim, you believe he’s not up to it, many don’t and think he is not only contributing but could be much better in a different system. You don’t like Dessers or don’t believe he contributes, totally fine. I think for the money these days his return and output is about what you get, our team is poor at chance creation hence why he has to score every time or he’s a dud. Look around at the other options, Danilo cost far more and has contributed much much less. You have to ask, in our market who do you get you can hang your hat on ? I’m not sure this league is as easy for a 9 to bag lots of goals as some think, the bigger issue is who else is chipping in. We don’t score near enough as a squad never mind as a team or just an attack.

Martin Sutherland

Players are judged on their big game performances at Rangers, therefore Dessers is not good enough. Should have been sold in the summer.