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Dominant - Live Show with Q&A (Patreon)

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2022-07-12 06:00:00
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Martyn was joined by Alan, Andy and David to have a live Zoom discussion and take questions from the Heart and Hand community. It was a lot of fun and we hope if you couldn't make it you enjoy the recording!

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Lewis Wardrope

Interesting when you say that the Scottish press were basically asking what’s the point of talking up Scottish football, when it’s obvious Rangers are going to win the league. That was before my time, so have no recollection. But it’s interesting compared to the last decade where it was obvious Celtic were going to win the title every season. Yet the media tried to polish a turd by talking up Aberdeen, Motherwell, Dundee Utd etc, when they were never going to compete for the title and they’d be routinely put out of Europe by minnows

Rob Shorthouse

Really enjoyed this, lads. I started university in 1993 and you could, basically, spend the week watching football in the pub. It really did feel like a different world and, importantly, you knew that everything round about you was changing. We were still riding the high of 1992/93 at that point, but by the following season I remember that reality was setting in about our place in amongst the big boys.

Callum Dinnen

Gutted I missed this but the weather was far too nice on Sunday to be stuck inside on Zoom

Johnnie Mitchell

Great listen as always lads, Thank you. Pissed off with myself for forgetting about the zoom call.

Paul Dunnachie

I didn’t get on until about 25 mins in… just listened to the start and it all makes more sense with a bit of context! Fair comment that by 1992 it was over as a competition in Scotland. The league was the be all & end all… cups were nice but league was the bread & butter that Souness had spoken about so much in the previous 6yrs. The European dream was given that injection of optimism from 92/93 but the next couple of seasons showed up just how far the gap had got between winning in Scotland and competing outside of it.

Ross Stirling

Another great show...apart from my stuttering question. I hope I got my point across though 😅

Scotty

This was the first episode of Dominant I’ve listened to really enjoyed it. Souness was the sex pistols of Scottish football. I want to check out all the episodes. Take it there’s no way to browse by show title? Just need to scroll through everything until I find the first episode? WATP

Gary Brown
>>87541224

I'd to play a bit of catch up too Scotty. 2 ways; expand 'see more' of the episode bio / description, is a little tag bottom left 'dominant'. Hit that & you're sorted. #2 search bar under the H&H logo

Craig Robertson

Good show this week. As the show moves nearer the modern day, might it be time to start rotating guests a bit? Obviously for the earliest seasons you needed a very specific balance. Guys like Cammy and Hoggy would be able to contribute now.

Gary Brown

Thanks again Martyn for this latest episode and thanks to David, Andy & Alan who's contribution is certainly a big part of making this my very favourite series on H&H. The number of participants to the live chat special edition is certainly testament to the success of the series and there would / could have been more due to work or commitments, shyness or technofear. Point being other patrons are clearly enjoying this series as much as I am. I don't see a more natural intermission point than at this stage of the era, for the many reasons cited. Revolutions by their very nature cease to be when the objective is accomplished & new regime established as the norm - and this is that point. History & retrospect show that but at the time we had no idea the impact media, Sky money, rule & even societal changes etc would create such a definitive change in the game as a whole. I thoroughly enjoyed all of the views aired by hosts & guests and can't add much more than has been already been covered live. Re expectations - as well as the dominance breeding 'entitlement' to success by our support during this point there is also the societal change which bred entitlement in the individual. Low unemployment, easy access to credit, etc. Since that period you could/can, in most cases, get what you want. And we want Rangers to win, everything! Sign players, any player. A culture of I want..... Expectation changed to entitlement and that legacy remains despite 2012 > and the (many) 'austerity years' prior. Who remembers "2 in a row, nae dough"? And the summer of consistent twitterati "Announce signings" shows it remains. Give the people what they want - and they want more! This series covers a period in our history which has a multitude of amazing, pivotal points which defined our club and us as supporters (& people!). Potentially THE most defining period since the move to professionalism. Thanks again for such superb research, in-depth coverage and presentation of it guys, tremendous work.

Martin Davies

Gutted to miss this live Q&A, pesky family holidays getting in the way!

Martyn Ramsay
>>87548825

I might freshen up at some point but it would be additions rather than replacements. I’ll keep the multi generational thing going to the end as I think that perspective on the explosion of modern football is important and I think the current show works well.

Chris Lees

Great show chaps. Can't believe no-one asked the most important question. The choice of the theme tune, is it purely literal, Shout to the top, Rangers shouting their way to the top? Or is it also about the very emblematic Thatcherite transformation of Weller from the rag tag Jam to the trendy very of its time Style council mirrored by Rangers under Souness, Holmes, Murray? Love the series.

Martyn Ramsay
>>87564209

Ha, it really is the most important part of the show! Bit of it is literal but mostly a call out to the music used on the 4IAR video

Craig McCrimmon

Gutted to have missed it due to work but great show and a good way to cap off that period of dominance.

Douglas Innes

Great show and some great insight/questions

Ross Matheson

That was a good listen. Surprised Alan didn't make more of a point about NIAR but he's younger than my Dad was ( he was born in 1935) and maybe that's the reason. I'll try to explain... Growing up (I'm ages with Davie) it was clear to me that Them having done NIAR was something that was absolutely lorded over us. Before we hit 4 or 5 and it started to enter our thoughts, my experience was Celtic fans saying we'd never match it. With my Dad having lived through that he was adamant that they only way to stop them going on and on about it was by doing it ourselves - even if in 1988 it was nothing more than a fanciful idea and not even remotely accessible as an idea. He always wanted Euro success too but I think NIAR meant even more to him at that point as it was our only chance to address their achievement. Now, I'm with the guys when they say the ritualistic defeats and regular hammerings in Europe really affected people of our age's outlook in the 90s. It's why I enjoy our Euro performances these days SO much whereas some people younger fans seem a bit more blase about it, I think. I reckon they take it as a standard expectation to have group football each year as it's seen as the norm for all clubs across Europe. Having had the good Euro standards but being more starved of domestic trophies, they're maybe on the flip side. But, without having achieved our NIAR to nullify what Celtic did, I don't know that we'd have been able to revel quite so much in some of our future successes. While it's parochial to an extent, it was a massive thing to settle in a historical sense. It really let us be top dogs. It's an interesting point that it's not since Struth that we ABSOLUTELY were despite largely always being viewed as the premier club in the land by the general public. We can look back on it now that NIARs been done and say "we should have concentrated on Europe more" but that's easier to say when you've achieved the other thing. Maybe Alan was just that bit young to have lived through their period of doing it but I think it did a number on my Dad the way our 90s Euro stuff did on Davie, Martyn, Andy and me. It was simply something which had to be done and had it not been, I don't think we see some of the continued success we've known since. It further established us as THEE club, possibly even beyond what Souness had done.

Alan Bradley
>>87671587

Some really good points Ross. I’ve always said it, and maybe it was because I was only 13 when we finally won the league at Easter Road, to me it was just about us winning the title. In my mind I felt then we were on the road to being the premier club and for the next few years we achieved this. Pilot and it’s Magic you know, fab as is it was blaring out, was definitely secondary to me. Because we had recently won the ECWC and the Scottish Cup, I felt we weren’t miles away from success. Suspect if I had been older, like your Dad, stopping them getting 10 would probably have been more important. Similarly as we moved towards 9, probably wait until we had achieved 7 before I started to focus on NIAR. In a positive, hopefully shows that for me it was always about Rangers, rather than focusing on that other lot. Funnily enough my Dad was born in 1940 and at Easter Road that day, he seemed to even happier than myself. 😉

Ross Matheson
>>87671587

Yes, 55 there would have been like that for me as your Dad was in 1975, compared to my son just enjoying seeing his first league win. It's all about Rangers winning indeed. We should be leaders which is why our NIAR had to happen to redress one of the things they could we which we didn't have.