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Spiderman: Brand New Day Discussion (Patreon)

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aScattaBrain

I think James Gunn is on a timer too, i don’t mind a supergirl or clay face movie so soon, the thing i don’t like is not building a consise universe when he has the chance make his own mcu. Why are we doing different batman universes. The reason i love both joker 1 and 2 is bc it’s its own story and could possibly be tide to the dark knight as well. But now we are able to see the characters in the justice league get movies, and select villains too, but i forget which one you said, but another character already shown is getting another movie before someone like the flash or a new aqauman, cyborg, wonder woman, etc etc. So im just hoping they lock in, I love both Marvel and DC and known a moderate amount of comic stuff so i def would wanna see clayface, but my opinion for how james gunn should handle certain DC projects is keep it Dark or keep the vibe respective to who the main character is. That’s why i like penguin, that’s why im going to see clayface, that’s why i like Superman, Super Girl i heard was mid, but ill watch for myself soon to see how i feel. but yea, im not out of superhero stuff anymore but im not fully in either

aScattaBrain

Brago, another person that people will always show up for. When done right. is the Hulk. We are do for another Hulk movie, but mostly hulk, bc bruce is cool and i like mark, but let’s be real, no one ever goes to see “bruce banner” we all want the Hulk.

Gojodaddy

I think it's unfair to say Spider-Man is the new Superman when Superman simply hasn't had the same level of consistent content over the last decade. When Tom Holland was first cast, he was heavily criticized. A lot of Spider-Man fans said he wasn't comic-accurate or that he wasn't the real Peter Parker. Despite that, Marvel kept building his character over three films, and by the end of No Way Home, they had brought him much closer to the traditional comic-book Spider-Man. Now look at Brand New Day—so many people are praising Tom's version. Superman never had that opportunity. His last solo film before James Gunn's was Man of Steel in 2013, which many longtime Superman fans didn't see as an accurate representation of the character. On top of that, stories like Injustice helped reinforce the idea that Superman is only interesting when he's evil or darker than his classic self. Meanwhile, Spider-Man kept getting hit after hit: the Insomniac games, the Spider-Verse movies, the MCU films, and more. Of course he's more present in pop culture when he's constantly getting high-quality content. James Gunn's goal wasn't just to make another Superman movie—it was to remind people why Superman became the greatest superhero in the first place. What's interesting is that Gunn initially didn't even want to write or direct a Superman film. It wasn't until he started reading the comics that he changed his mind and became inspired to tell Superman's story. If the MCU was given years to develop Tom Holland into a more comic-accurate Spider-Man, I think it's fair to give the DCU the same chance with Superman and Batman. Even in comics, you can already see the interest. Absolute Batman became a huge success, and Absolute Superman has also been selling extremely well. I think Spider-Man feels more popular today largely because he's had far more consistent content. Give the DCU time. If they keep getting Superman right, I think a whole new generation will understand why he's considered one of the greatest heroes ever created.

Gojodaddy

Yea mcu did the hulk and thor so dirty man. Thoe 2 are my favorite marvel heroes Behind spider man maybe

aScattaBrain

Hulk is my favorite. He’s a Meathead done right

aScattaBrain

that’s all on DC then, and what brago says would be correct regardless of why you think it is, but you can’t act like people havent loved spider-man for ages too, since his animations before any movies. Spider-man has this new one adding 4, But the first movies have 3 Hits, The second Spider-man was slept on but everyone is recognizing it’s a hit too, and now tom has 4 Hits. And imo This version of spidey is the best, bc he’s gotten a taste of the big leagues and lost a mentor, and now we see him at the street level… and i’ve always said Tom Holland is the best at doing both peter and Spider-man, DC has simply always slacked in building their universe, and that’s on them, Superman may have been that beloved figure a long time ago, but ever since the first spider-man movies and then the many animations that spider-man had during the 2010s, then the other movies and animations up to current day, People just love spider-man more right now, and no matter how inaccurate people claim the other superman movies to be, A lot of people still like Henry cavils superman. I feel like most of the love from superman comes from comics bc half of his movies are old, and the other half is tied to a dead universe. And he didn’t have his owns animations that were popping like that. So it’s literally all on DC and people have always said that, DC has great material but they don’t choose to capitalize on it correctly or effectively.

aScattaBrain

I’m excited to see what James Gunn does with DC and Superman, but they gotta build something concise. The only reason why marvel is doing what they are doing now is bc they already did and completed a consise story already, now they can flesh out other people and storylines now. DC has to build that foundation before they get sporadic

Gojodaddy

Spider man animated seris where never that popular. Superman animated series is talked about today's day. Barely anyone talks about spider man animated series. You ignored my whole point why spider man is more loved I literally made whole nuance points to why regardless if you think spider man is new superman. Witch doesn't even make sense tbh.

Gojodaddy

superman love doesn't come from the comics alone It coms from ppl who actually understand the character And putt effort to try to understand clark kent and superman. Also many ppl dislike Henry civil. Ever sinds David hes been considered the best superman. Most of those are synder fans who like cavil.

Gojodaddy

He's not just a meathead lol

Gojodaddy

Do your research man. Saying he doesn't have have series popped off shows your basic knowledge of superman. Smallivle was the biggest superhero show eve. Because of that show we have CW flash and arrow verse. Ppl still talk about smallvile. I literally watched whole 10 seasons . Many ppl started smallvile recently and call the best superhero show. Sup Sueprman animated series gets referenced all the time its considered the best superhero animated series ever behind batman animated one. Your being very disingenuous right now.

aScattaBrain

bro whatttt, wdym people don’t talk about the spider-man animations, i’ve literally heard hella people mention it talk about the spider-man animation, and i’ve literally never heard people talk about superman animation… Many people talk about the spider-man animations of the 2010s… not the ones before. I literally read everything you said lol, basically saying he’s had more consistent stuff etc, but that’s not the only case.

Brago D Ace

As a viewer you don’t really care who its unfair to. Regardless of why something is happening, we have to acknowledge what’s happening. Yes, Superman hasn’t gotten a fair shake in the eyes of the masses but that doesn’t matter. I still prefer Henry over David for now but it’s not a huge gap. Also, casual fans don’t care about comic book accurate most of time. Is the movie good or not? All in all, fans will be fans and the circumstances for Superman may be tougher than Spider-Man, but right now he is the premium Superhero for North America if not the world.

aScattaBrain

Idk who david is. but many people like henry, many people don’t, the comics are all different so each character in comics you get won’t always be the same, so saying the people love him bc of they understand him doesn’t make sense, he’s not that hard to understand lol, He’s a symbol of hope, he doesn’t kill, etc etc. A lot of superhero’s aren’t hard to understand bro… But most of the love HAS to come from comics bc most of the people haven’t seen the old superman movies, or the old animations, and then all they know is henry cavil and the current superman and any 2000s and newer animation to, and yea small ville but that’s fairly old too and i don’t think many in the newer generation has seen it or care for it

aScattaBrain

i didn’t say he didn’t have a series. i said the animations aren’t really known or talked about. Smallvillie people like that show yea, but thats like the biggest known thing bc it’s not just superman in it. Your glaze for superman is not letting you see my point and putting words in my mouth bro. calm down. I feel like youre basing your opinion on how you view them only and then conflating them bigger than what they actually are. Bc i’m talking about the masses, you seem to care about the comic lovers and accuracy only. The masses are not regarding the superman animations the best superhero animations… Batman i’ve heard that as a fairly casual, and i’ve also heard spider-man, and it exploded even more in the 2010s with the many spider-man animations they made and many loved… I’m not even trying to disrespect superman lol, but it’s like, the reality is he doesn’t have many media that people would care to easily access right now, people get intimidated by comics and don’t read those, and half of superman’s movies are old, Man of steel is great, but after that it’s like, idc about everything after, and his animations are old so idc to see them, but those animations are more for kids and teens anyway now so but still

Gojodaddy

Fair brago. However slight push back on general audience not caring for comic accuracy. I dont think ppl understand when it comes to " comic accuracy". Its not about 1-1 adaptation. Its about keeping the core characteristics of thsoe hereos and the world they live in. Genral audience will care if they putt effort to understand thsose characters or small research. There was a girl next to me when watching spider man She literally ' superman 2025 was the best superhero film ever I watched'. Same girl who was enjoying this film. You can dialike characters not my issue at all. But evertime I go into discourse with ppl who dont like suprman they barely understand the surface level of him. My cousin who barely reads comic or has my type of knowledge considered the batman best batman film and David as superman. It's about putting even smallest effort to trying to understand those characters even if your not reading comcis. All I ask to ppl is look beyond the surface level of suprman. Hes not hard character to understand, yet he got the most disingenuous takes than any hero. Last example. If I didn't recommend you the supergirl woman of tomorrow comic. You wouldn't think Kara is interesting character. Because how mid the film was and not great representation of her character and story. Now imagine if you read some superman comic or his good live action tv shows. I promise your perspective would change on him.

Gojodaddy

Im not just trying to be comic accuracy here lol. End of day they are adapting comcis. My point is superman has tons of animated stuff thats extremely popular and well known. Your take was his animated stuff aint that well known when thats not the case at all. Yes I may sound to emotional. But that's because your arguments or takes show thay you barely understand his character. You said ' he has no emotional moments and is strong ans beats strong ppl". like what . Thats my frustration . it would be different if you understood his characters and still didn't like him in that way. And rhats fair. But thatz not the case at all am I wrong ?.

Gojodaddy

Im not glazing superman. Its being more defensive when ppl like you cant even understand his characters at surface level. You think I should take you seriously after what you said about being only strong and no emotions lol. When in the same film he quit literally showed tons of emotions .

aScattaBrain

smh i basically agreed and said what brago said, but from your perspective i don’t understand his character at all surface level… just bc im arguing spider-man is more known and loved rn. I never even brought up the understanding of his character etc. You just assume people who criticize him don’t understand his character 😂 And it’s not even criticism about him 😂 we never said anything about his character, or if he was relatable or not etc. This why i don’t talk to comic nerds smh. You’re literally twisting and putting words in my mouth. I LITERALLY said, he doesn’t express his emotions like spider-man, and from MAJORITY from what i’ve seen from superman he doesn’t express it “LIKE” (Keyword), spider-man. Me saying that, isn’t saying Superman doesn’t express emotions at all, and i never said he was “just strong”. The reason i like Henry cavils superman so much is the emotion you see from superman while dealing and fighting Zodd. I had a feeling this convo would turn out like this smh, stop putting words in my mouth lol, We all like superman here and know his character on a “surface” lvl, i’m the one who said to you superhero’s aren’t hard to understand lol. You sound like mfs on twitter, He said this, so he must think or feel the opposite, then you cherry pick words and say “you said this”. Stop.

Gojodaddy

You say smallvile is the biggest thing ever but than say now gen haven't watched or care for it??. When its biggest show on Netflix when it come out it was most talked about shows recently after superman 2025 . because ppl wanted start more superman media . suprman lois and lane is popular shows ppl be talking about. Its not about disrespecting superman. You clearly are saying some stuff thats wrong. You say hes not hard to understand. But yet your wrong about him not killing. Superman absolutely kills when necessary. Hes not batman. Im done man idc anymore. Saying new Gen doesn't care about hos other media. When absolute superman is popping off lol. Alright. Have nice day im done. Its already late here

aScattaBrain

“your comment barely show you know his character” nigga i didn’t even speak on his character… you’re dead being emotional for no reason. You’re cherry picking words i’ve said, and then saying, this is what u mean, when that’s not why i said it, or how i said it.

aScattaBrain

Yes you’re simply wrong lmao. not once did i say i dislike him, and you taking my words out of context etc is what’s making you say i dont understand his character, when i haven’t even spoke on his character. And If i don’t say something you assume i mean the opposite or you assume what i mean for me.

aScattaBrain

Thank God, Be done, you’re literally being emotional bc of opinions and then cherry picking my words lol smh. People know one piece it’s the most popular anime right now. Yet many people still don’t know about. That’s an even lesser case for smallville. And Ik superman kills people nigga, sorry i didn’t accurately say one thing about his “character”. Like i don’t know he kills Zodd in man of steel 😂 Like i said many diff interpretations of superman, who kill and don’t kill, but sowy i said the version where he doesn’t. Smfh. Like i said i hate talking to comic nerds. You can sit and cry about me saying a lot of people don’t care about smallvillie iggg, and yes absolute series is popping, that’s as of recently buddy 😂 we already proven superman and dc lacks in capitalizing on they material. You’re just crying and nitpicking things saying i’m wrong when in reality, i’m really not lol, you can sit and conflate what you believe for the “fans”, but the majority is what i’m speaking on.

Brago D Ace

come on guys be nice, we're family in here.

Gojodaddy

Nah we good. I was being too emotional defending my goat sups. But we solved it. My apologies bargo. Sups been getting a lot of hate from spider man fans on internet so I throwed my frustration on here. And not realizing it . so my bad if I went to far. Just understand I really love this character . but all 3 are my goat

Criticalthe95

Just finished watching the movie. 10/10 🙌🏿

Criticalthe95

Hulk is the only one that remembers Peter,since Hulk is basically a different person. Magic doesn't effect him like normal people.